texascavers Digest 16 Oct 2009 00:13:29 -0000 Issue 871 Topics (messages 12329 through 12351):
Re: TSA Fall Business Meeting Agenda at TCR - Sunday, October 18th - LAST
CHANCE!
12329 by: Lyndon Tiu
Re: Garage Sale
12330 by: Mark Minton
12335 by: Rod Goke
Not cave related
12331 by: Ernest Garza
Photographic Archive
12332 by: Association for Mexican Cave Studies
new Mars photos ?
12333 by: David
12342 by: Benjamin Yasui
Authorities investigate Kartchner Caverns break-in :
12334 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com
TCMA Grants Help Needed
12336 by: Aimee Beveridge
recycling
12337 by: Sam Young
Air Compressor Deal - 5hp 2 stage 60 gallon 165PSI
12338 by: Robert B
12339 by: Charles Goldsmith
12341 by: John Brooks
12343 by: egelsone.satx.rr.com
AMCS sales at TCR
12340 by: Mixon Bill
TCR food... Saturday
12344 by: Stefan Creaser
TCR food... friday and sunday morning...
12345 by: Stefan Creaser
Texas Cavers Reunion
12346 by: Allan Cobb
AMCS related
12347 by: David
Re: [tlamaqui] Good news of Jim's consciousness today.
12348 by: Mark Minton
Win a Suunto Tandem at TCR!
12349 by: David Ochel
Texas Cavers (the movie)
12350 by: Geoff H
TCR Soap Sale
12351 by: Diana Tomchick
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--- Begin Message ---[email protected] wrote:o Conservation Committee � Lyndon TiuFYI, I'll be deserting early Sunday morning and won't be attending the meeting.-- Lyndon Tiu
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--- Begin Message ---Linda,As Rod said, sometimes the paper handling wheels just get dirty. You can clean them with Q-Tips and rubbing alcohol or acetone, rotating them while cleaning to get the entire perimeter. I've resurrected printers with just such a problem this way.Mark MintonLinda,Have you tried using a different brand or quality of paper in this printer? I have one printer/copier machine that frequently fails to feed properly with one cheap brand of paper but which works okay with a different (slightly better) brand, even though both paper brands work reliably in certain other printers I have. Sometimes when printers get old, the rubber wheels that move the paper age, or sometimes just get dirty, in a way that reduces friction between the wheels and the paper. Consequently, it might have inadequate friction to move one brand of paper but still have adequate friction to move another brand with a slightly less slippery surface.Rod [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Linda Palit Sent: Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM To: 'TexasCavers' Subject: [Texascavers] Garage SaleI have a Lexmark inkjet printer that the paper feed is not working. It was working fine before that.Iâll bring it to TCR to the garage sale if anybody wants to make a donation for it.Otherwise I am giving it to Good Will. Thanks, And remember to bring those garage sale itemsâ¦You may reply to [email protected] Permanent email address is [email protected]
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Mark's suggestion makes sense for printers where the wheels are reasonably accessible. With other printers, however, it may be easier said than done, especially if you don't have a service manual to explain disassembly/reassembly tricks peculiar to your printer.
Rod-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Minton
Sent: Oct 13, 2009 10:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Garage SaleLinda,
As Rod said, sometimes the paper handling wheels just get dirty. You can clean them with Q-Tips and rubbing alcohol or acetone, rotating them while cleaning to get the entire perimeter. I've resurrected printers with just such a problem this way.
Mark Minton
Linda,
Have you tried using a different brand or quality of paper in this printer? I have one printer/copier machine that frequently fails to feed properly with one cheap brand of paper but which works okay with a different (slightly better) brand, even though both paper brands work reliably in certain other printers I have. Sometimes when printers get old, the rubber wheels that move the paper age, or sometimes just get dirty, in a way that reduces friction between the wheels and the paper. Consequently, it might have inadequate friction to move one brand of paper but still have adequate friction to move another brand with a slightly less slippery surface.
Rod
[email protected]
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From: Linda Palit
Sent: Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM
To: 'TexasCavers'
Subject: [Texascavers] Garage Sale
I have a Lexmark inkjet printer that the paper feed is not working. It was working fine before that.
Iâll bring it to TCR to the garage sale if anybody wants to make a donation for it.
Otherwise I am giving it to Good Will.
Thanks,
And remember to bring those garage sale itemsâ¦You may reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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--- Begin Message --- As if there wasn't enough going on, this Thursday, Oct 15, the March Forth Marching Band will play at Antone's in Austin. They put on quite a show and don't sound anything like your old high school band. Late show, starts at 11PM, should be of interest to cavers.-ErnieG
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--- Begin Message ---Greetings Cavers,As was so beautifully illustrated in the latest Texas Caver, the ICS 2009 was a great success. AMCS sales were good. The exciting debut was the new "Photographic Archive of Mexican Caving." This is a coffee-table photo book of both historic and current images. The twelve inch square image area provides a dramatic presentation for these great photos. This first edition contains 19 photographs. The book will grow over the years, with the second edition to contain perhaps 50 photos and to be released in about 20 months.Of coarse the book will be available this weekend at the Oldtimers' Texas Cavers Reunion, or it can be shipped for $20 via Priority Mail.See You There, Terry Raines
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--- Begin Message ---If you look on the photo of the link below, you will see some tiny red squares. http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/ You can click on each square and then zoom around just like in Google Earth. I clicked on most of them and zoomed around a little, but did not see any tropical karst pinnacles, or anything else to write home about. The most interesting to me, was the red square near the bottom right corner labeled "The Answer is Blowing in the Wind." http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/all_images/ESP_011934_0945/ If you were standing there watching 1000's of geyser like jets blowing carbion dioxide dust up into the air ( or whatever they are doing ), that would be one amazing sight for the eyes. One question I have is: If all of those jet entrances are connected together by cave passage, then how would you map the passages ? Presuming the passages could be die-traced somehow, and you could connect the dots on the surface. My guess is there is a reservoir under the sheet of ice that is completely filled with whatever the black dust is. The pressure in the reservoir blows just like cave air blowing out of an entrance. ( We only see the entrances that are blowing, not sucking ? ) The ice sheet has 1000's of holes. The top right corner area of that photo has some weird meandering formations that are less than a kilometer long, that spiral downward from a central higher elevation. Some look like tiny canyons, but most look like varicose veins. David Locklear
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--- Begin Message ---Anyone who hasn't read the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson should. It will make you want to do everything in your power to become an astronaut, in the chance that, as he predicts, we colonize Mars in the next 60 years. His characters are all drawn from different scientific disciplines and thus all appreciate different aspects of the planet, but physical geography is a major focus. Nicholas Yasui On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:37 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote: > If you look on the photo of the link below, you will see some tiny red > squares. > http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/ > > You can click on each square and then zoom around just like in Google Earth. > I clicked on most of them and zoomed around a little, but did not see any > tropical > karst pinnacles, or anything else to write home about. > The most interesting to me, was the red square near the bottom right corner > labeled "The Answer is Blowing in the Wind." > > > http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/all_images/ESP_011934_0945/ > If you were standing there watching 1000's of geyser like jets blowing > carbion dioxide > dust up into the air ( or whatever they are doing ), that would be one > amazing sight > for the eyes. > One question I have is: > If all of those jet entrances are connected together by cave passage, then > how would you > map the passages ? Presuming the passages could be die-traced somehow, > and you > could connect the dots on the surface. > My guess is there is a reservoir under the sheet of ice that is completely > filled with whatever > the black dust is. The pressure in the reservoir blows just like cave > air blowing out > of an entrance. ( We only see the entrances that are blowing, not sucking ? > ) > The ice sheet has 1000's of holes. > The top right corner area of that photo has some weird meandering formations > that are less than > a kilometer long, that spiral downward from a central higher elevation. > Some look like tiny canyons, > but most look like varicose veins. > > David Locklear > >
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--- Begin Message ---Damage appears slight in Sunday's Kartchner break-in By Brian J. Pedersen and James E. Martinez Arizona Daily Star Tucson, Arizona | Published: 10.14.2009 advertisement (http://gannett.gcion.com/adlink/5111/572402/0/170/AdId=431675;BnId=1;itime=506459039;nodecode=yes;link=http://a.collective-media.net/jump/q1.azstarnet /news;sz=300x250;click0=;ord=506459039?) A break-in Sunday night at Kartchner Caverns State Park did not appear to have caused significant damage to the cave's fragile environment, a state parks spokeswoman said Tuesday night. "There's a little bit, but no significant damage was found inside the caverns," said Ellen Bilbrey, a spokeswoman for Arizona State Parks. Bilbrey said scientists spent much of Tuesday inspecting the limestone caverns near Benson. The underground trails remained open to tourists, she said. She said Gary Tenen, who along with Randy Tufts found the caverns in 1974, volunteered his time Tuesday to go through the caverns looking for damage. Tenen and Tufts, who died in 2002, kept their discovery in the Whetstone Mountains a secret for years until a state park could be created to protect their important find. The state bought the land including the caverns in 1988. The park opened to the public in 1999. The cave, with its impressive array of still-growing stalactites, stalagmites and other colorful rock formations, is considered the crown jewel of the state's parks system. It gets about 150,000 visitors a year. The break-in was reported at about 7:30 a.m. Monday when park rangers discovered someone had forced his way into the lower portals of the park and into the areas known as the Tarantula Room and the Big Room, according to a news release issued by the Cochise County Sheriff's Office. An unknown number of people walked into a mud overflow area known as Strawberry Passage and damaged an area of soda-straw stalactites near the Fallen Giant stone formations, the release said. Bilbrey said two stalactites appeared to have been damaged, but scientists weren't sure if they hadn't already fallen to the ground when they were stepped on by an intruder. It didn't appear that whoever broke in managed to walk far off the trails in caverns, she said. Thick mud makes it dangerous to get around if a person is not using the trails, she said. Serious damage to the cave could have had a devastating effect on the park's future, a University of Arizona scientist said. "If people go off-trail, they're disturbing the natural ecosystem that the park is trying to preserve long-term," said Raina Maier, a professor in the UA's soil, water and environmental science department. Bilbrey echoed the concern of how difficult and important it is to preserve the environment of the caverns. "It's so pristine. One step off the trail can cause damage." The intruders also left doors to the caverns open, which Maier said could be the most damaging aspect to the break-in. "It's really bad that they left the doors open, because that messes with the humidity in the cave," said Maier, who has served as Kartchner Caverns' consulting microbiologist since 2001. "That kind of disturbance — you can't fix that." Maier is part of a team of UA scientists that operates a microbial observatory in the cavern that, among other things, is studying the effects of tourism on the cave, about 40 miles southeast of Tucson. "We've sampled in the Strawberry Passage, and if it's been disturbed, we won't go back there," Maier said. "We won't want to sample anymore someplace where a person has gone." Bilbrey said there would be changes in security at the caverns, but the parks system lacks money for major enhancements. "There's really no money to fix security," she said. "Our budget has been cut to zero." Bilbrey said public tours into the Big Room will begin as scheduled on Thursday. Tours there are normally suspended in mid-April to protect roosting bats. _http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/313199_ (http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/313199)
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--- Begin Message ---Greetings Cavers, One of the goals of the Texas Cave Management Association is to preserve and protect Texas caves. To further this goal the TCMA is pursuing grant opportunities that will allow us to maintain and preserve Texas caves, and more importantly, purchase more caves. We are looking for grant writer volunteers to help us in this effort. If you know someone who would be interested in helping the TCMA pursue grant funds, or, if you are aware of an institution that gives grant money to land trust organizations, we want to talk to you. We’d love to see you at our upcoming TCMA members meeting to be held at TCR, or you can email us directly, Sincerely, Aimee Beveridge aimee.beveridge at tcmacaves.org Don Arburn don.arburn at tcmacaves.org
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--- Begin Message ---I responded to this question from Mark but somehow, it did not get posted. Try again: Glass is particularly difficult to deal with. Green Guy does take glass but I do not have room for it with my pickup. People at TCR have told me that they just take their recyclables home. Maybe that is the best way to do the glass. ....... Sam Is there any way we can get receptacles for glass or is Green Guy not interested in that? I will be bringing a rather generous donation of Blind Salamander and other brews from our friends at Rahr Brewery in Fort Worth. Some here may remember sampling their wares at the spring TSA Convention. Thanks, Mark
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--- Begin Message ---Not Caving Related Forgive me, I'm a tool nut. Always looking for great deals. here's one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55391 >From what I have read, this compressor is made in the United States. It's built by Atlas Copco in Rock Hill, South Carolina. They usually have Baldor or A.O. Smith motors on them, and you couldn't even buy the motor for the $159 they're selling that for. Yes, they are reconditioned. Shipping about $90.
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--- Begin Message ---Dead URL, it has ... in it, and I doubt that is correct. Thanks for the thought though, new toys, er, tools, are great :) On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert B <[email protected]> wrote: > Not Caving Related > > Forgive me, I'm a tool nut. Always looking for great deals. > > here's one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55391 > > From what I have read, this compressor is made in the United States. > > It's built by Atlas Copco in Rock Hill, South Carolina. They usually have > Baldor or A.O. Smith motors on them, and you couldn't even buy the motor for > the $159 they're selling that for. > > Yes, they are reconditioned. > > Shipping about $90. > >
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--- Begin Message ---Can you replace the URL to fix the compressor? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: Dead URL, it has ... in it, and I doubt that is correct. Thanks for the thought though, new toys, er, tools, are great :) On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert B <[email protected]> wrote: Not Caving Related Forgive me, I'm a tool nut. Always looking for great deals. here's one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55391 >From what I have read, this compressor is made in the United States. It's built by Atlas Copco in Rock Hill, South Carolina. They usually have Baldor or A.O. Smith motors on them, and you couldn't even buy the motor for the $159 they're selling that for. Yes, they are reconditioned. Shipping about $90. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---Go to harbor Freight and search for the item number from the link.... 55391 You will find it. ---- Robert B <[email protected]> wrote: > Not Caving Related > > Forgive me, I'm a tool nut. Always looking for great deals. > > here's one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55391 > > From what I have read, this compressor is made in the United States. > > It's built by Atlas Copco in Rock Hill, South Carolina. They usually have > Baldor or A.O. Smith motors on them, and you couldn't even buy the motor for > the $159 they're selling that for. > > Yes, they are reconditioned. > > Shipping about $90.
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--- Begin Message --- The Association for Mexican Cave Studies (the one with eighty-five books in our catalog at amcs-pubs.org) will be selling books at TCR, among them these new items in our catalog:Huautla: Thirty Years in One of the World's Deepest Caves, by Bill Steele. Cave Books, 2009. 305 pages hardbound. $23 (publisher's list price $24.95.) You'll probably be able to track Steele down to get him to sign your copy.Crystal Giants in the Caves of Naica. Ed. by Giovanni Badino. Published by the La Venta group in Italy, 2008. 49 pages hardbound. $20.Hidden Depths of Mexico, film by Sid Perou (1983) converted to video DVD-R. 55 minutes. $15.Exploring Highland Maya Ritual Cave Use: Archaeology and Ethnography in Huehuetenango, Guatemala, edited by James Brady. AMCS Bulletin 20, 2009, 97 pages softbound. $8.Cave Papers of Federico Bonet. AMCS Reprint 10, facsimile reprint of publications from 1953 and 1971. 318 pages softbound. $12.AMCS Activities Newsletter 32, 2009. 154 pages softbound $14, hardbound $24. (See http://amcs-pubs.org/cat.html for earlier numbers and prices.)Death Coral Caver 14 (2009), 44 pages softbound. $5. (Magazine of the Proyecto Espeleológico Purificación; earlier numbers 1991-2003 also available at reduced price of $2 each.)Studies on the Cave and Endogean Fauna of North America, part V. Ed. by James Cokendolpher and James Reddell, 2009. 169 pages softbound. $16. (Earlier numbers in that series also available for $7 each.)Bring money. Checks OK; can't take credit cards. -- Bill Mixon, AMCS sales---------------------------------------- If a man brags of his honor, make him pay cash. ---------------------------------------- You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: [email protected] AMCS: [email protected] or [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---All, SATURDAY dinner will be served at 6pm, as per tradition. During the day we will be doing a lot of preparation so if you have time please drop by and see if we need a hand, it will be much appreciated! Afterwards the washing up would certainly like company :-) We planned a Cajun Theme this year (so bring your beads!). Barring accidents, sudden changes of heart, etc. the menu looks like this: Starters - Shrimp PoBoy's, alligator bites Main - Chicken&Sausage Gumbo Crawfish Tail Etouffee Veggie Jambalaya (primarily for the vegetarians). Sides - Creole Okra and Tomatoes (V) Red Beans and Rice (V) Maquechoux (V) Cornbread Salad Dessert - Gateau de Decharge Cajun Cup Pies Because the main courses are more 'liquid-y' this year I would suggest people bring a bowl or high-sided plate so these don't spill. And save space for dessert, samples we've tried have been awesome! Cheers, Stefan -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
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--- Begin Message ---THIS IS A NEW MESSAGE!! On FRIDAY we will be doing the "Friday Night Pasta" previously done by the Bexar Grotto (they were too worn out after ICS, though I'm sure some of them will be there to help out). This will be set up in the cooks area, probably about 6:30. We would appreciate a $5 donation for this as we intend to donate all proceeds to Monica Ponce' cancer treatment. In light of that I hope we make enough! On SUNDAY morning someone (I want to be asleep still!) will be preparing a hearty breakfast for donations of at least $5. Again, all proceeds will go to Monica's cancer treatment. I look forward to seeing a lot of you there, and especially to handing Monica a chunk of $$! Thanks! Stefan -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
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--- Begin Message ---Howdy y'all,I hope to see everyone at TCR this weekend (October 16-18) at Paradise Canyon (www.paradisecanyon.com ) along the scenic Medina River just west of San Antonio. For more information and directions, visit www.oztotl.com/tcr or email [email protected].Make sure you check the website and get a copy of the map. You can also put it into your GPS or print out direction from an online map souce such as Google maps or Yahoo maps. When you arrive, the gate may be closed. There will be a sign on the gate for TCR and another sign saying the park is closed for a private party. We are the private party so open the gate and come on in. Please go straight to registration or get there as soon as you can. The park really wants liablity releases from everyone.I will have the gate open Friday afternoon and early evening and then again on Sunday until about noon. The rest of the time I would like to have the gate closed to prevent the general public from coming in. If the gate is closed when you enter or leave, please close the gate behind you. If you are walking by and see the gate open, please close it.We also have a bunch or really great door prizes. We have some REALLY nice stuff to give away. Make sure you are around on Saturday evening to hear your name called to claim your door prize.See y'all there...Allan
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--- Begin Message ---I think President Obama needs to sit down at the table on the White House lawn with all the variousAMCS factions and work out a memorandum of understanding or something ( with Mexican beer ). Personally, I don't see why the AMCS can't have an office in Fort Bend County or anywhere else, or why a caver in say, Canada, couldn't be simultaneously working on Activities Newsletter number 41, while someone in Mexico is working on number 42, and someone in Virginia is working on 43. I think anybody who has been following speleological literature of Mexico greatly appreciates the dedicated years of service that the various AMCS publishers, editors, and mappers, and writers have put into it. I personally think AMCS produces the greatest literature in speleology. I don't think there is any kind of voting type membership, but if there were and if I were voting, I would nominate both Mr. Raines and Mr. Mixon for AMCS Lifetime Acheivement Awards, and give them some sort of respectable prize, such as a Stenlight. 15 years from now, all these kind of publications will be produced collaboratively over some kind of internet service, so shouldn't all the caver's worldwide who enjoy caving in Mexico have an understanding of how the AMCS operates ? Other than nostalgic value or sentimental value, does having a paper copy of the AMCS articles really mean anything? I think AMCS will have to go all digital and stop making paper copies in 10 years or so. That is all I can say as I know very little about the politics of the organization, history, etc. David Locklear arm-chair caver in Fort Bend County, Texas
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--- Begin Message ---Jim Coke is recovering nicely. Seems he had bacterial pneumonia. Mark MintonFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gustavo VelaSent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:04 PM To: tlamaqui Subject: [tlamaqui] Good news of Jim's consciousness today.Al parecer, Jim Coke ya esta mejor. Que no era histoplasmosis sino una neumonia pulmonar.Los mejores deseos para Jim! --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Patricia A. Beddows wrote: > Thanks to all who responded - all of the support, > information and leads, and good wishes have been much > appreciated. Since last week Wednesday when the > original email was sent out, we have heard that Jim has been > through allot but contrary to the original thoughts of a > histoplasmosis infection, instead it appears he has had a > bacterial pneumonia. The infection now seems to be > under control and so treatment is progressing. > > Gary and Kay Walton are providing regular updates via a > blog: http://locogringo.typepad.com/jimcoke/ > This blog is also my principal source of information so > that is the best place to go to know the day to day > situation. > Jim is now awake but did not realize where he > was. The breathing tube is still in, but that might be > removed soon. > > I certainly hope that we will all be hearing progressively > good news over the coming days. > Sincerely, > Trish > > __________________________________________________________ > Dr. Patricia A. Beddows > Assistant Chair and Lecturer > Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences > Northwestern University > 1850 Campus Drive, Locy Hall 312 > Evanston, IL, 60208-22150 > Tel: 847-491-7460 > Fax: 847-491-8060 > www.earth.northwestern.eduYou may reply to [email protected] Permanent email address is [email protected]
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--- Begin Message ---Cavers, Bring your survey gear to TCR (or borrow a set at the AMCS tent) and enter the survey contest! First prize will be a Suunto Tandem compass & inclinometer, courtesy of Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse. If you don't know how to use tape and instruments, attend survey class on Saturday at 10 am, next to the cooks' area. Read up on helpful tips and tricks here: http://www.utgrotto.org/articles/SurveyBasics.asp Rules will be posted at registration and at the AMCS tent. Cheers, David
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--- Begin Message ---The Texas Cavers Movie DVD and Poster will be available at the TSA Booth at TCR. Posters are $10, the DVD is $15, or both for $20. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
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--- Begin Message --- I will have handmade bar soap for sale at TCR, with all proceeds to be donated to the TCMA.Drop by the Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto camping area (you won't be able to miss it, we have a large grotto banner) if you'd like to buy soaps scented with the fragrances of Texas lavender, calendula, coconut-lime- verbena, cherry blossom, peppermint-lemongrass, mango-vanilla, sandalwood and even Cave Dirt!Bars weigh approximately 4.5 ounces and will be on sale for $5 each. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: [email protected] 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax)
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