texascavers Digest 22 Oct 2009 20:08:20 -0000 Issue 874
Topics (messages 12386 through 12400):
UT Grotto - Wed Oct 21
12386 by: Gary Franklin
Re: TCR 2009
12387 by: Fritz Holt
Cave for sale in South Dakota
12388 by: Lee-Gray Boze
12389 by: Louise Power
12390 by: Mark Minton
Andy Gluesenkamp on radio for Texas Parks and Wildlife :
12391 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com
TSA election
12392 by: Ron Ralph
nominations for highest NSS awards
12393 by: Mixon Bill
How to eat a bat
12394 by: germanyj.aol.com
12395 by: Louise Power
Paging Scott Serur
12396 by: Jim Kennedy
Huasteca region in the news
12397 by: David
4WD school bus related
12398 by: David
Re: caving vehicle related
12399 by: David
Latest WNS News
12400 by: Mark Minton
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Underground Texas Grotto Meeting Wednesday
The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.
University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html
Geoff Hoese and Peter Sprouse will be presenting the program for the evening as
Adventures in Mexico from trips to Aqua Verde and a recent reconnaissance trip
to Muzquiz. Come out for an Austintatious time in the Capitol City to support
some of the members that work to maintain projects and relations south of the
border.
Please see the web site for information on all UT Grotto activities. All of our
information is available including officer contact info, trip reports, new
caver training, and an event calendar that lists upcoming caving trips,
beginner trips, vertical rope training, or other cool social event activities.
After the Official Grotto meeting, we migrate to Posse East www.posseeast.com
for beer & burgers, recruit for upcoming trips, and share tall tale caving
stories. We hope to see you there.
The UT Grotto needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your
adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact Gary
[email protected] to schedule you into our Program series.
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Young people come by the pitchers now? They should be canned.
Geezer
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2009
Beer bees. The bane of the Medina Lake area. I was stung on the roof of my
mouth back in the late 1970s at my folks' place on Medina Lake. I've had sinus
trouble ever since.
(Too many pitchers of young people. Grump grump)
T
Oct 19, 2009 10:57:08 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there,
My photos can be found here:
http://pics.ochel.net/Parties/2009-10-TCR/10014546_M8P4o
Thanks to everybody for the good times!
Cheers,
David
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> said the following on
10/19/2009 8:29 AM:
>
> Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
>
> The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was very
> good!
>
> The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities, and
> a rather unique Speleolympics.
>
>
> Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise),
> articles and observations for publication in /The TEXAS CAVER /to:
>
>
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]> or
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
>
> .com
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There's a company that's trying to sell what initially appears to be a piece
of property with a cave that "likely connects" to Jewel Cave in South Dakota
for $1,999,999.00.
http://sunsetvalleymining.com/Otherclaimsforsale.html
Only they're selling the mining claim, not any actual property. And the cave
doesn't connect - wrong rock unit.
They will give you GPS coordinates to the cave entrance, for serious parties
only. To show your interest you need to have a certified check for 10% of
the total cost of the property.
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FYI: I just tried to link to this site and our server rejected the link
because of malware. Has anyone else had this happen?
Louise
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:30:37 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Cave for sale in South Dakota
There's a company that's trying to sell what initially appears to be a piece of
property with a cave that "likely connects" to Jewel Cave in South Dakota for
$1,999,999.00.
http://sunsetvalleymining.com/Otherclaimsforsale.html
Only they're selling the mining claim, not any actual property. And the cave
doesn't connect - wrong rock unit.
They will give you GPS coordinates to the cave entrance, for serious parties
only. To show your interest you need to have a certified check for 10% of the
total cost of the property.
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Louise Power said:
>FYI: I just tried to link to this site and our server rejected the
link because of malware. Has anyone else had this happen?
It came up fine for me. I have McAfee SiteAdvisor on my
computer and the site wasn't flagged or rated in any way.
Mark Minton
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:30:37 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Cave for sale in South Dakota
There's a company that's trying to sell what initially appears to be
a piece of property with a cave that "likely connects" to Jewel Cave
in South Dakota for $1,999,999.00.
http://sunsetvalleymining.com/Otherclaimsforsale.html
Only they're selling the mining claim, not any actual property. And
the cave doesn't connect - wrong rock unit.
They will give you GPS coordinates to the cave entrance, for serious
parties only. To show your interest you need to have a certified
check for 10% of the total cost of the property.
You may reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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That Andy, again!
Would one of you please forward this to texascavers?
Thanks,
Logan
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TPWD RADIO THIS WEEK
The department's Passport to Texas radio series airs on about 100 Texas
stations each weekday. This week in two episodes, Herpetologist Andy
Gluesenkamp tells listeners about Texas rattlesnakes, including typical
snake habitats and behaviors and how to avoid trouble outdoors. See the
series Web site to listen to this month's episodes or find out where to
hear the series (www.passporttotexas.org).
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Cavers,
Votes are tallied from TCR (N=115) and ballots mailed out to who were not
able to attend and requested (N=9). I will send out an official count when
all ballots are returned and I have a final count, probably around October
29 or 30.
Ron Ralph
Elections Committee Chair
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[Feel free to forward this message to other relevant lists or
interested people.]
The William J. Stephenson Outstanding Service Award and the Honorary
Membership are the National Speleological Society's most prestigious
awards. Each year's single recipient of these awards is selected by
the NSS Board of Governors, rather than just confirmed, as in the case
of other awards, and these awards convey life membership in the NSS.
(They are defined, in fact, as distinct classes of membership by
bylaws I.B.3 and I.B.4, although the NSS membership list shows past
recipients as regular life members.)
The Outstanding Service Award is for outstanding service to speleology
and the NSS, and candidates must have been NSS members for at least
the two years prior to being considered. The 2009 recipient was Carol
Tiderman. The list of all past recipients can be found at http://caves.org/committee/award/oswinners.htm
.
The Honorary Membership is for outstanding contributions to
speleology, and there is no NSS membership requirement for candidates.
Many past recipients have been distinguished foreign speleologists.
The 2009 recipient was Andy Eavis. The list of all past recipients can
be found at http://caves.org/committee/award/honorwinners.htm .
The NSS Awards Committee is responsible for soliciting nominations for
these awards and passing them on to the Board of Governors. The
deadline for nominations for 2010 in November 15, 2009. Nominations
for the OS and HM awards should be sent to
Bill Mixon
14045 North Green Hills Loop
Austin, Texas 78737
[email protected]
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From: Texas Parks and
Wildlife Department [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:31 AM
To: Julia Germany
Subject: Nature's Trick or Treat
Just in time for Halloween, see how nature's creepy
creatures feast on treats and amaze you with unbelievable tricks!
How to Eat a Bat
What Glows in the Dark?
Something Really Yucky
A Toadally Yummy Trick
Squeaky Treat on the Run
Bats Amazing!
And there are more treats to
come at Texas Parks and Wildlife events!
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Julia, Great snippits. Looks like if you're going to eat a bat, though, you
have to have a few thousand of your closest friends over to help. Also thought
the pics of the bats coming out of Bracken were outstanding.
I really liked the one of the butcher bird feeding the mouse to her chicks. The
greatest part of that one was watching the one chick trying to down the whole
mouse by him/herself. Last scene with the tail hanging out of his/her mouth was
priceless.
Louise
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Scotty, please email me. -- Crash
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The article below appeared this week on the web.
http://www.time.com/time/travel/article/0,31542,1930353,00.html
I would not call this news, especially to anybody that has been caving
in the Sierra Madres, but it is the first time I have seen some of my
favorite off-the beaten path places mentioned to all the eyes of the world.
I hope that developers and industry do not destroy or even come near
these places.
Just to the west of there, are other sensitive karst areas that are at risk.
It was mentioned 2 weeks ago in a presentation by Sr. Berrones, that
the cave called Borbollon is at risk due to a nearby quarry.
A map of this cave appeared in the Maverick Bull in March of 2000.
http://www.maverickgrotto.org/PDF/mb200003.pdf
Here is a group claiming to be trying to save parts of the area:
http://sierradealvarez.blogspot.com/
David Locklear
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A few of you might like these photos for your screensaver:
http://image.4wheeloffroad.com/f/9612235+w750+st0/131_0702_04_z+1974_ford_marmon_herrington_4x4_school_bus+front_view.jpg
http://www.justih.org/Binder-Bench/attachment.php?attachmentid=7125&d=1190402089
http://www.justih.org/Binder-Bench/attachment.php?attachmentid=7128&d=1190424754
Here is one advertised for $ 5,000:
http://photos.imageevent.com/powerwagon/classifieds/websize/templeman_120808_55bus.jpg
http://www.johnnyburrito.com/truckbus/buybus.jpg
http://www.oldbus.us/Portals/0/dnnPhotoGallery/498/283.jpg
David Locklear
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Last week, I saw a new GMC van with a diesel engine.
Is this a potential caving vehicle ?
http://image.automotive.com/f/features/news/163_news0912_next_gen_duramax_drive/25417145+pheader/CHEVY%20VAN.jpg
The key feature of the new Duramax 6.6 L turbo-diesel is that it can run 20
percent bio-diesel.
Other "alleged" improvements are a quieter and less polluting motor. A
more rigid cylinder block and higher pressure injectors ? And an improved
method of preventing oil dilution.
GM claiming 250 horsepower and 500 pound-feet of torque. One tester on the
web, claimed the van accelerated briskly.
Only comes with a 6-speed automatic, and no AWD or 4WD. Option to have
3.73 rear axle ratio.
Maintenance cost will be higher as you MUST maintain an "Exhaust Fluid
Tank."
Although this motor design is nearly identical to the 2001 models, there are
a lot more emission control processes in the 2010 version, like more exhaust
gas re-circulation, etc.
So all the van needs is a lift kit, some bigger and more rugged tires, some
speleo-bumpers,
a roof-rack. After that, it could at least set up base camp at the bottom
of the mountain.
( And would only cost you about $ 50,000. )
So, I would say it is not a practical caving vehicle, unless the cave you
like to go to is far away, and near a base camp that doesn't require an
off-road vehicle, and you need to haul
a lot of equipment or cavers, and you have a whole lot of money, and you
have access to
bio-diesel. For example, lets say that you are going to Grutas de
Precipicio, or to caves in Slaughter Canyon of the Guads, then this would be
a fine caving vehicle.
David Locklear
Ref:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/08/25/019855.html
http://www.gmc.com/savana/cargo/specsStandard.jsp
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/first-look-2011-duramax-diesel-v8-engine.html
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The latest news on WNS research is available at
<http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009310189996>.
Mark Minton
You may reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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