texascavers Digest 30 Oct 2009 04:28:12 -0000 Issue 878
Topics (messages 12435 through 12459):
Re: lunar lava tubes
12435 by: Mark Minton
12439 by: David
12440 by: Don Cooper
12450 by: Mark Minton
Mountain Gear Sale
12436 by: Geary Schindel
Looking for Bob Cowell
12437 by: Sheryl Rieck
The October 2009 Issue of the Hole News
12438 by: Bill Bentley
Re: Ed Alexander's obituary
12441 by: Jenny Holt
Re: Coyote attacks in Canada
12442 by: Gill Edigar
Re: Falling Backward, Batteries, Fire Escapes
12443 by: Gill Edigar
Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
12444 by: Sheryl Rieck
12445 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
12446 by: Allan B. Cobb
12447 by: Sheryl Rieck
12448 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
12449 by: Sheryl Rieck
12452 by: Fofo
12458 by: Chris Vreeland
14 Tips for Cave Photography
12451 by: Randy Baker
12455 by: Katy Roodenko
12456 by: Charles Goldsmith
Cave Fest .....Rescheduled due to wet conditions!
12453 by: Andy Zenker
UPDATE: Austin Cave Festival CANCELLED & rescheduled
12454 by: Jules Jenkins
bat copulation
12457 by: David
a bat related video clip
12459 by: David
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>http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/lunar-moon-skylight-carolyn-van-der-bogert.html
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091026-moon-skylight-lunar-base.html
Did anyone else notice that they claim the lava tube
associated with that skylight should be at least 370 meters
wide?! That would be an unprecedentedly large lave tube. I wonder
how they think they can calculate a width for the tube based on only
the width and depth of the skylight, which are far smaller. I don't
believe it for a minute.
Mark Minton
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They were using the Missouri survey method.
The cave is 370 meters wide and 10 meters long.
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I take it the nature of the "Rilles" is still a riddle? I wonder if perhaps
they are collapsed lava tubes.
-WaV
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Mark Minton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/lunar-moon-skylight-carolyn-van-der-bogert.html
>
> >
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091026-moon-skylight-lunar-base.html
>
> Did anyone else notice that they claim the lava tube associated with
> that skylight should be at least 370 meters wide?! That would be an
> unprecedentedly large lave tube. I wonder how they think they can calculate
> a width for the tube based on only the width and depth of the skylight,
> which are far smaller. I don't believe it for a minute.
>
> Mark Minton
>
> You may reply to [email protected]
> Permanent email address is [email protected]
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Don Cooper said:
>I take it the nature of the "Rilles" is still a riddle? I wonder
if perhaps they are collapsed lava tubes.
If you read the first article, it said:
>>Sinuous rilles are thought to form in two ways: (1) an open lava
channel that thermally erodes into the lunar surface, or (2)
subsurface lava tubes that eventually collapse. There were images of
collapsed lava tubes that were discussed in the mid to late 1970's as
evidence for volcanic activity and sinuous rille formation on the Moon.
Mark Minton
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Mark Minton <[email protected]> wrote:
>http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/lunar-moon-skylight-carolyn-van-d
er-bogert.html
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091026-moon-skyligh
t-lunar-base.html
Did anyone else notice that they claim the lava tube
associated with that skylight should be at least 370 meters
wide?! That would be an unprecedentedly large lave tube. I wonder
how they think they can calculate a width for the tube based on
only the width and depth of the skylight, which are far smaller. I
don't believe it for a minute.
Mark Minton
You may reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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Folks,
FYI,
www.mountaingear.com<http://www.mountaingear.com> is having a sale on climbing
gear, along with other items. They have Petzl left handed Expedition Ascenders
on sale for $49. That's a few dollars off the normal price of $60+ Could be a
good opportunity to save a few dollars.
Geary
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I am in search of Bob Cowell. Can someone give him my email address? Or,
give me his?
Thanks.
Sheryl
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Greetings,
The October 2009 issue "Volume 24 # 10" of the Permian Basin Speleological
Society's "The Hole News" is now on the web in Adobe PDF format.
It can be found at the URL listed below:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews/pbss1009.pdf
And as always more exciting years of back issues can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews.html
Many thanks to Kel Thomas for being the editor of "The Hole News" Please
be sure to send him material!!!!!
Enjoy and Cave Safely,
Bill
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Life is full of tragedy and unexplained sadness. I can only say that I wished
I'd known Ed. After reading his obit, I welled up and wanted to know more about
him and wished I'd met him...what a tragedy! Ed Alexander made a difference in
this world! All his friends have testified!
With heartfelt love,
Jenny
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:37:22 -0500
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Ed Alexander's obituary
Here is the Austin American Statesman link to Ed Alexander's obituary. Repost
as you see fit.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/statesman/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=134922351
--Ediger
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http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009
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Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:28 AM
Subject: Coyote attack
Two coyotes attacked and killed a woman in Canada.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091029/ap_on_re_ca/cn_canada_coyote_attack
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This is a forwarded message from Bill Stringfellow
>>>>-----------------------fwd-------------------->
The sun is headed southward toward the Tropic of Capricorn as winter
approaches. As part of the government's meddling in the natural order of
things it is time to set your clocks backward 1 hour before you go to bed on
Saturday night as Daylight Saving Time ends.
It is also a good time to change the batteries in all Smoke Alarms and CO
detectors. You should also test all devices regardless of how they are
powered. Another thing to consider is the age of your devices. If they are
more than 10 years old then they should replaced with newer models. And
finally make sure you have the proper number of devices in your house.
Current recommendations include at least one smoke detector on each level
of your house/apartment as well as one outside of each bedroom. In the
event of an emergency the more devices there are the better.
Do you have fire extinguishers in your residence? When was the last time
you checked their charge level? Most have an indicator showing the current
charge so if the charge is too low you should replace the extinguisher.
Also, check to make sure you have the proper type for the area to be
protected.
>>>>----------------also------------------>
If you have kids living in the house it's also a good idea to have a fire
(or other emergency) escape plan, to include a meeting place somewhere
outside the house---not too close and not too far--that they can find in the
dark.
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I thought this would be of interest to the caving community.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/chinese-fruit-bats-engage-in-unusual
-sexual-behavior.php
Sheryl
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Somebody should ban this!
Mark
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From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 10/29/2009 7:26 AM
To: 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
I thought this would be of interest to the caving community.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/chinese-fruit-bats-engage-in-unusual-sexual-behavior.php
Sheryl
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Sheryl, I am really wondering what you were looking for when you found this?!?!
On second thought, maybe not.
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From: Sheryl Rieck
To: 'Texas Cavers'
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:26 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
I thought this would be of interest to the caving community.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/chinese-fruit-bats-engage-in-unusual-sexual-behavior.php
Sheryl
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In my defense, it was actually George who found it and it was on digg.com.
;-)
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:52 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck; 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
Sheryl, I am really wondering what you were looking for when you found
this?!?! On second thought, maybe not.
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Oh, sure. Blame the man! 8^)>
Mark
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From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 10/29/2009 8:04 AM
To: 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
In my defense, it was actually George who found it and it was on digg.com. ;-)
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:52 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck; 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
Sheryl, I am really wondering what you were looking for when you found this?!?!
On second thought, maybe not.
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Of course! I would not do otherwise. It is against the rules in the
Women's Handbook to take the blame for things such as this!
Sheryl
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:12 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck; Texas Cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
Oh, sure. Blame the man! 8^)>
Mark
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From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 10/29/2009 8:04 AM
To: 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
In my defense, it was actually George who found it and it was on digg.com.
;-)
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:52 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck; 'Texas Cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chinese Fruit Bats have oral sex
Sheryl, I am really wondering what you were looking for when you found
this?!?! On second thought, maybe not.
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One more reason why bats are awesome!
- Fofo
Sheryl Rieck wrote, on 29/10/09 5:26:
I thought this would be of interest to the caving community.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/chinese-fruit-bats-engage-in-unusual-sexual-behavior.php
Sheryl
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I could see why you'd think that -- cavers are always interested in
unusual sexual beha... um... bats.
On Oct 29, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Sheryl Rieck wrote:
I thought this would be of interest to the caving community.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/chinese-fruit-bats-engage-in-unusual-sexual-behavior.php
Sheryl
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Something I think most aspiring cave photographers would be interested in:
http://digital-photography-school.com/14-tips-for-cave-photography
Randy Baker
http://www.caves.org/grotto/bexargrotto/
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"Shoot In RAW" is I think the most valuable advice out of the 14.
It is also most widely ignored one.
The digital processing can be done by the FREE software initiated and lead by
(Texas Caver) Udi Fuchs :)
Here is the link to the software:
http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/
Katy
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Randy Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Randy Baker <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Texascavers] 14 Tips for Cave Photography
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 6:16 PM
> Something I think most aspiring cave
> photographers would be interested in:
>
> http://digital-photography-school.com/14-tips-for-cave-photography
>
> Randy Baker
> http://www.caves.org/grotto/bexargrotto/
>
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Very impressive, thanks for the heads up.
Charles
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Katy Roodenko <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Shoot In RAW" is I think the most valuable advice out of the 14.
>
> It is also most widely ignored one.
>
> The digital processing can be done by the FREE software initiated and lead by
> (Texas Caver) Udi Fuchs :)
>
> Here is the link to the software:
>
> http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/
>
>
> Katy
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Randy Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> From: Randy Baker <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Texascavers] 14 Tips for Cave Photography
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 6:16 PM
>> Something I think most aspiring cave
>> photographers would be interested in:
>>
>> http://digital-photography-school.com/14-tips-for-cave-photography
>>
>> Randy Baker
>> http://www.caves.org/grotto/bexargrotto/
>>
>>
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From: Robin Gary <[email protected]>
Subject: Cave Fest .....Rescheduled due to wet conditions!
Hi folks,
We’re making the call. It’s pouring rain here at the office. This is a
really tough decision to make because of the level of effort we’ve all put
into making Cave Fest a success. After spending time at the preserve and
under current conditions, we don’t have the resources to remediate after a
wet Cave Fest (think ACL)!!!!
*Cave Fest is officially cancelled for this weekend due to wet conditions.
We’re going to reschedule for Groundwater Awareness Week’s Saturday. *
* *
*Please mark your calendars for a great spring Cave Festival—Saturday, March
13, 2010.***
* *
Please let all your volunteers know. We’ve attached a cancellation flyer,
too. Please post and share!
Our website is updated. Cancellation flyers are posted at the preserve.
And we’re meeting with KXAN to talk about Cave Fest and the recent rains, so
notice will likely go out on tonight’s news also.
If you get calls, feel free to route them to Jules at 289-1336. She’ll have
her cell on all Saturday.
THANK YOU ALL!
- Jules and Robin
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Hi folks,
We’re making the call.
It’s pouring rain here at the office. This is a really tough decision to
make because of the level of effort we’ve all put into making Cave Fest a
success. After spending time at the preserve and under current
conditions, we don’t have the resources to remediate after a wet Cave Fest
(think ACL)!!!!
Cave Fest is
officially cancelled for this weekend due to wet conditions. We’re going
to reschedule for Groundwater Awareness Week’s Saturday.
Please mark your calendars for a great spring Cave
Festival—Saturday, March 13, 2010.
Please let all your volunteers
know. We’ve attached a cancellation flyer, too. Please post and
share!
Our website is updated.
Cancellation flyers are posted at the preserve. And we’re meeting with
KXAN to talk about Cave Fest and the recent rains, so notice will likely go out
on tonight’s news also.
If you get calls, feel free to
route them to Jules at 289-1336. She’ll have her cell on all Saturday.
THANK YOU ALL!
-
Jules and RobinBSEACD, Austin Cave Festival Team
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I would like to nominate Sheryl's post on bat sex as the
best CaveTex post of 2009.
Anyone 2nd the nomination ?
David Locklear
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I think the makers of the video clip below have an audience of people
who enjoy watching the "Dumb & Dumber" type movies.
( recommend that you not watch it, but read below )
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/breaking_news_bat_loose_in
Synopsis:
A parody of 3 councilmen arguing about something irrelevant, when
a bat flies into the session. I can't understand where they found
actors/directors/animators with enough spare time to film this clip ?
Why did LG pay for advertising on this clip? Does that make you
want to buy LG ?
David Locklear
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