texascavers Digest 24 Sep 2009 13:15:05 -0000 Issue 858
Topics (messages 12145 through 12154):
Re: Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56 :
12145 by: Andy Zenker
12148 by: SS
12149 by: Bill Bentley
12151 by: Quinta Wilkinson
12152 by: Fritz Holt
Re: Hanglider goes caving
12146 by: Louise Power
Re: Speleotruck related
12147 by: Fritz Holt
LED headlamp related
12150 by: David
paging Louise Power..
12153 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Jim Elliott
12154 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
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Oh man, a year underground? What do you do all that time?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56*
>
> ROME — Italian sociologist Maurizio Montalbini, who spent months dwelling
> in caves to study how the mind and body cope with complete isolation, has
> died at 56.
>
> Montalbini died of a heart attack Saturday while in a mountain hamlet near
> the central Italian town of Macerata, said Guido Galvagno, a longtime
> colleague. Galvagno said the death did not appear connected to Montalbini's
> record-breaking cave stays.
>
> Montalbini spent a total of two years and eight months underground since he
> started his experiments in the 1980s, according to a biography on his Web
> site.
>
> In 1987 he claimed his first world record after spending 210 days alone in
> a cave in the Apennine mountains. A year later he led an international team
> of 14 spelunkers, including three women, to take the world group record with
> an underground stay of 48 days.
>
> During his endurance experiments Montalbini subsisted mostly on a
> high-calorie diet of powdered foods and pills similar to those used by
> astronauts on space flights. Scientists on the outside monitored him through
> instruments.
>
> Montalbini's biography says his experiments were done in collaboration with
> NASA and top universities worldwide. They yielded insights on the effects of
> long-term isolation including weight loss, changes in the perception of time
> and in the sleep and menstrual cycles.
>
> For the sociologist, who worked with drug addicts before turning to
> spelunking, the experiments were also a personal challenge of willpower and
> endurance.
>
> "One cannot fight solitude, one must make a friend of it," he said after
> his 1987 exploit. "I succeeded in doing this. I carried everything inside me
> for seven months - affections, convictions, ideals."
>
> Montalbini broke his solo cave-sitting record in 1993 by living a year and
> one day in an underground base built to study the reactions of individuals
> and crews on simulated space missions.
>
> In his last experiment, which ran through 2006 and 2007, Montalbini spent
> 235 days in the base built in the Apennine "Grotta Fredda" (Cold Cave).
>
> Montalbini, who had no children, is survived by his wife, Galvagno said.
>
>
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iStdd5Es3GPzK-bsoZQCwsdh7-zAD9AR2T980
>
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I wonder if one of the side effects of living in a cave for two years is an
untimely death at age 56.
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From: Andy Zenker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56 :
Oh man, a year underground? What do you do all that time?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56
ROME - Italian sociologist Maurizio Montalbini, who spent months dwelling in
caves to study how the mind and body cope with complete isolation, has died
at 56.
Montalbini died of a heart attack Saturday while in a mountain hamlet near
the central Italian town of Macerata, said Guido Galvagno, a longtime
colleague. Galvagno said the death did not appear connected to Montalbini's
record-breaking cave stays.
Montalbini spent a total of two years and eight months underground since he
started his experiments in the 1980s, according to a biography on his Web
site.
In 1987 he claimed his first world record after spending 210 days alone in a
cave in the Apennine mountains. A year later he led an international team of
14 spelunkers, including three women, to take the world group record with an
underground stay of 48 days.
During his endurance experiments Montalbini subsisted mostly on a
high-calorie diet of powdered foods and pills similar to those used by
astronauts on space flights. Scientists on the outside monitored him through
instruments.
Montalbini's biography says his experiments were done in collaboration with
NASA and top universities worldwide. They yielded insights on the effects of
long-term isolation including weight loss, changes in the perception of time
and in the sleep and menstrual cycles.
For the sociologist, who worked with drug addicts before turning to
spelunking, the experiments were also a personal challenge of willpower and
endurance.
"One cannot fight solitude, one must make a friend of it," he said after his
1987 exploit. "I succeeded in doing this. I carried everything inside me for
seven months - affections, convictions, ideals."
Montalbini broke his solo cave-sitting record in 1993 by living a year and
one day in an underground base built to study the reactions of individuals
and crews on simulated space missions.
In his last experiment, which ran through 2006 and 2007, Montalbini spent
235 days in the base built in the Apennine "Grotta Fredda" (Cold Cave).
Montalbini, who had no children, is survived by his wife, Galvagno said.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iStdd5Es3GPzK-bsoZQCwsdh7-
zAD9AR2T980
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You go caving?
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From: Andy Zenker
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56 :
Oh man, a year underground? What do you do all that time?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56
ROME — Italian sociologist Maurizio Montalbini, who spent months dwelling
in caves to study how the mind and body cope with complete isolation, has died
at 56.
Montalbini died of a heart attack Saturday while in a mountain hamlet near
the central Italian town of Macerata, said Guido Galvagno, a longtime
colleague. Galvagno said the death did not appear connected to Montalbini's
record-breaking cave stays.
Montalbini spent a total of two years and eight months underground since he
started his experiments in the 1980s, according to a biography on his Web site.
In 1987 he claimed his first world record after spending 210 days alone in
a cave in the Apennine mountains. A year later he led an international team of
14 spelunkers, including three women, to take the world group record with an
underground stay of 48 days.
During his endurance experiments Montalbini subsisted mostly on a
high-calorie diet of powdered foods and pills similar to those used by
astronauts on space flights. Scientists on the outside monitored him through
instruments.
Montalbini's biography says his experiments were done in collaboration with
NASA and top universities worldwide. They yielded insights on the effects of
long-term isolation including weight loss, changes in the perception of time
and in the sleep and menstrual cycles.
For the sociologist, who worked with drug addicts before turning to
spelunking, the experiments were also a personal challenge of willpower and
endurance.
"One cannot fight solitude, one must make a friend of it," he said after
his 1987 exploit. "I succeeded in doing this. I carried everything inside me
for seven months - affections, convictions, ideals."
Montalbini broke his solo cave-sitting record in 1993 by living a year and
one day in an underground base built to study the reactions of individuals and
crews on simulated space missions.
In his last experiment, which ran through 2006 and 2007, Montalbini spent
235 days in the base built in the Apennine "Grotta Fredda" (Cold Cave).
Montalbini, who had no children, is survived by his wife, Galvagno said.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iStdd5Es3GPzK-bsoZQCwsdh7-zAD9AR2T980
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Re: What would you do?
Read, meditate, enjoy the peace and quiet!
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For about one week.
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From: Quinta Wilkinson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Italian 'cave dweller' Montalbini dead at 56 :
Re: What would you do?
Read, meditate, enjoy the peace and quiet!
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This was all over the news here in Oregon. This guy just about turned himself
into a huge smear of guts and hang glider against the rocks. He was very lucky.
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:36:23 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] Hanglider goes caving
>
> The attached video clip is interesting.
>
> It starts with a advertisement clip.
>
> Click on full screen once the cave video starts
>
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid28096224001?bctid=41247273001
>
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Good report on your observations, David. I venture to say that at this price it
will be a "limited edition". Also, "defects" shouldn't have to be fixed with
money. Ten MPG city is probably close, maybe twelve and 16 or 17 highway. Were
I buying a truck it would be a Ford but I am content (for now) with my 02 Ford
Exploder (per Travis).
Fritz
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From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:40 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Speleotruck related
This post is about a truck I saw sitting at the dealer:
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I just saw a new Toyota Tundra "Rock Warrior" edition.
( This one was the CrewMax model which has colossal room in the rear seating
area. )
It was $ 46,500, of which $ 3,300 gets you the Rock Warrior package.
It was a 2009 model.
I
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Has anyone seen this headlamp in the stores yet?
http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00ieHTcGYguhbfM/Headlamps-HB-T1203-12-3LED-.jpg
I predict one will hit Walmart or Target in a year or less.
It will use 9 LED's that are probably 1/2 watt each.
I hope it will switch from 1 to 3 to 6 to 9 LED's, but probably will not.
It should be around $ 20 when it arrives.
I will be looking out for it. I think the arrangement of the LED's
is the way to go.
The rest of the head-lamp looks cheezy, but a machine shop can
probably fix that.
Should be a good head-lamp for newbies to take to just about any of their first
caving trips, and my guess is that it will be better than the cheap
headlamps currently sold
at CVS Pharmacy, Walgreens, etc.
David Locklear
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sorry folks..
Louise:
Hotmail put a block on my reply to you.. ???
Any ideas?
Ted
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Those of you who know Jim Elliott (wasn't he from San Marcos?) better than I do
probably know of his whereabouts, but I just happen to run across where he is
now. I was around him several times about 20 years ago when we were actively
exploring and mapping Pozo de Montemayor in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. He was a fun
guy and a strong caver. I've thought of him from time to time, wondering if he
got out of caving or moved away from Texas.
Turns out he moved far away from Texas. I wanted to contact an old Canadian
caver friend of mine, and Bill Mixon sent me the URL for the Canadian caver
e-mail addresses (http://www.cancaver.ca/docs/CanCaverList.htm). Looking
through it, I noticed that Jim Elliot lives in Manitoba now, and it says that
he moved there recently. There's got to be an interesting story there.
Bill
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