texascavers Digest 26 May 2009 05:32:20 -0000 Issue 763
Topics (messages 10759 through 10765):
Terminal Siphons
10759 by: Don Cooper
10760 by: kego3.sbcglobal.net
Re: Speleofest
10761 by: Alex Sproul
Re: 15th ICS - field trip news and only 2 months!
10762 by: George Veni
articles
10763 by: Mixon Bill
The long awaited return of "The Hole News" is now being published again and is
on the web
10764 by: Bill Bentley
Psychics of the underground visit Longhorn Cavern :
10765 by: jerryatkin.aol.com
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I'm looking for a tape of previous performances.
Please contact
-WaV
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There's really not much recorded, mostly to protect the guilty. I'll see what
I can find though and let you know.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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From: Don Cooper <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:39:53
To: Cavers, Texas<[email protected]>
Subject: [Texascavers] Terminal Siphons
I'm looking for a tape of previous performances.
Please contact
-WaV
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>Are any Texas cavers going to SpeleoFest ?
Don't bother, David. Unfortunately, the event now dubbed SpeleoMess is
but a ghost of its former glory. In the 1970's, it was one of the best and
largest caver gatherings in the country (and there were few in those days).
But today, though it at last has its own permanent venue and cave, it
amounts to about 200 attendees with very little organization, facilities, or
fun.
The trip from Texas would be much more worthwhile to attend the
Southeast Regional Association (SERA) Cave Carnival the following
weekend. This year's is hosted by the Nashville Grotto, long renowned for
knowing how to put on a helluva party (as Herr Schindel can attest) at the
new permanent venue of the TAG Fall Cave-In on Lookout Mountain in the
heart of cave country. Alas, there will be little to no caving at either event.
All the more reason for Nashville to put on a helluva party.
Alex
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While many trips were cancelled because of WNS, a few trips, like the Maya
trip, were cancelled because of insufficient registration. There are
expenses and commitments that need to be paid early for the trips, and we
need to be sure we have enough people registered for the trips to cover all
of the costs. When the numbers aren't there, we have to cancel the trips to
avoid going into debt.
George
From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:05 PM
To: Mixon Bill
Cc: Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: 15th ICS - field trip news and only 2
months!
Why was caving with the Maya cancelled?
Nico
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Mixon Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
Forwarded by Mixon:
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Date: May 20, 2009 11:13:57 AM CDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: 15th ICS - field trip news and only 2 months!
Dear Friends,
Last month we sadly announced that we needed to cancel and re-examine all of
the trips for the 15th International Congress of Speleology (ICS) because of
White Nose Syndrome (WNS), the mysterious condition that has recently killed
about a half millions bats in the U.S. We hoped to send you news about the
trips a couple of weeks ago, but arranging some of the details was more
complicated than expected. Here is the final news on the Pre and Post-ICS
trips:
Confirmed Trips, Full
01: Coast-to-Coast Eastern Segment
02: Coast-to-Coast Western Segment
85: Cenote Karst of the Yucatan Peninsula
88: Giant Caves of Northern Mexico
Confirmed Trips, Space Available*
03: Texas Bat Caves
31: Mammoth Cave, Kentucky
41: Black Hills, South Dakota
51: Science in Southeastern New Mexico
53: Caving in the Guadalupe Mountains (post-Congress)
55: Lilburn Cave, California (only 2 slots still open!)
71: Cave Management in New York
86: Deep Pits of Mexico
* The numbers of seats available for some trips in may be different from the
total trip size originally announced
Canceled
04: Endangered Species, Endangered Caves
33: Cumberland Plateau (TAG)
34: Tectonic Pseudokarst of North Carolina
37: Caves and Karst of Virginia
52: Caving in the Guadalupe Mountains (pre-Congress)
56: Cave the Sierra Nevada, California
58: Big Island Hawaii
59: Southeast Alaska
81: Caving with the Maya
82: Caves of the Bahamas
I encourage you to register for the available trips soon before they fill.
Some of the trips may experience minor changes because of WNS. If you are
concerned, please contact the trip leaders as listed on our website at
www.ics2009.us. As reminder, to do our best to prevent the spread of WNS in
the US and to other countries, all caving equipment and clothing will need
to be decontaminated after each caving trip. The decontamination procedures
will be announced and posted on our website within 2 weeks.
Today is exactly 2 months until the 15th ICS begins. Today our
pre-registration exceeded the total number of people who attended the 8th
ICS, the previous ICS held in the US in 1981. I look forward to seeing many
more registrations in the coming weeks. Remember, the price of registration
increases on June 1st so register now and register for the great field trips
that will be held before the ICS, after the ICS, and on Wednesday during the
ICS.
George
George Veni, Ph.D.
Chairman, 15th International Congress of Speleology
Adjunct Secretary, International Union of Speleology
Executive Director, U.S. National Cave and Karst Research Institute
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The current (25 May) issue of The New Yorker contains an article on
extinctions. Bats and white-nose syndrome are dsicussed as one example
of current problems.
What on earth Australasia Scuba Diver was doing on Barnes and Noble's
magazine racks I have no idea. But issue 6 for 2008, also mysteriously
labeled vol. no. 5, has a short article about cave (or cavern) diving
in the Mt. Gambier area in South Australia.--Mixon
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Greeting Cavers and Spelunkers an other numerous and notorious Troglodyte types,
The May 2009 issue "Volume 24 # 5" of the Permian Basin Speleological
Society's "The Hole News" is now on the web in Adobe PDF format.
It can be found at the URL listed below:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews/pbss5-09.pdf
And as always more exciting years of back issues can be found at the following
URL:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews.html
Many thanks to Kel Thomas for his return to be the editor of "The Hole News"
Please be sure to send him material!!!!!
Enjoy and Cave Safely,
Bill
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Update: Austin Paranormal releases results of latest investigation at Longhorn
Cavern
May 23, 3:17 PM ·
Austin Paranormal Group, led by founder/president Amanda Foster, recently
released the results of its third investigation of Longhorn Cavern near Austin,
TX. According to Ms. Foster, “Our latest investigation was not quite as active
as the first two, but it was fascinating nonetheless. As paranormal
investigators, we accept the fact that there will be more activity at
particular times than at others.”
For the first time, Austin Paranormal “went dark” during this third
investigation. The first two investigations had been conducted under lighted
conditions, since phenomena has frequently been reported in full daylight or
when electricity was being used. Their efforts were rewarded when they captured
some excellent audio evidence, including responses to questions and an entity
apparently commenting “they’re back” when the group returned from a break.
Whoever is present in the caves seems to be able to recognize the members of
this group and comment on their activities. Ms. Foster reports that one of the
group’s goals is to identify the spirits inhabiting the caves and their
historical research in this area remains ongoing.
Personal experiences from the third investigation included two separate
instances of moving light phenomena. Unfortunately, it was not captured on
video. Investigators also reported the sound of “scratching”
on the walls, running footsteps, muted conversations, and a type of “roar” that
was captured on one of the recorders. As always, Austin Paranormal attempted to
find “non paranormal” explanations for all of these events and only included
them in the official case record as “possibly paranormal” after thorough
investigation of alternative causes. Austin Paranormal Group is planning
additional investigations at Longhorn Cavern, which has proven to be a very
haunted location. Its rich history and active inhabitants should continue to
result in impressive evidence for some time to come.
To schedule your own “Paranormal Tour” or other types of cave adventures
offered by Longhorn Cavern State Park, click on this link:
http://www.longhorncaverns.com/special_cave_tours.html.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1001-Ghost-Hunting-Examiner~y2009m5d23-Update--Austin-Paranormal-releases-results-of-latest-investigation-at-Longhorn-Cavern
For the first time, Austin Paranormal “went dark” during this third
investigation. The first two investigations had been conducted under lighted
conditions, since phenomena has frequently been reported in full daylight or
when electricity was being used. Their efforts were rewarded when they captured
some excellent audio evidence, including responses to questions and an entity
apparently commenting “they’re back” when the group returned from a break.
Whoever is present in the caves seems to be able to recognize the members of
this group and comment on their activities
. Ms. Foster reports that one of the group’s goals is to identify the spirits
inhabiting the caves and their historical research in this area remains ongoing.
Personal experiences from the third investigation included two separate
instances of moving light phenomena. Unfortunately, it was not captured on
video. Investigators also reported the sound of “scratching” on the walls,
running footsteps, muted conversations, and a type of “roar” that was captured
on one of the recorders. As always, Austin Paranormal attempted to find “non
paranormal” explanations for all of these events and only included them in the
official case record as “possibly paranormal” after thorough investigation of
alternative causes. Austin Paranormal Group is planning additional
investigations at Longhorn Cavern, which has proven to be a very haunted
location. Its rich history and active inhabitants should continue to result in
impressive evidence for some time to come.
To schedule your own “Paranormal Tour” or other types of cave adventures
offered by Longhorn Cavern State Park, click on this link:
http://www.longhorncaverns.com/special_cave_tours.html.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1001-Ghost-Hunting-Examiner~y2009m5d23-Update--Austin-Paranormal-releases-results-of-latest-investigation-at-Longhorn-Cavern
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