Hi Texas Cavers!

I am forwarding this WNS meeting report for informational purposes, I know this 
is somewhat Indiana specific, but this does have a lot of good info and 
addresses many of the problems that many states are facing with this.
Have a great weekend!
Ron

  
To all concerned,
  
After talking with many cavers since the White-Nose Syndrome (WNS) meeting last 
Thursday night (5/21) I have put together this summary of the meeting and the 
perspectives of some of the cavers. The function of this letter is twofold, to 
inform cavers about the meeting and WNS in general, and to summarize caver 
views and give feedback in writing to the officials involved.
The IDNR and USFW informational meeting was well represented by several 
concerned state and federal officials.  DNR Deputy Director John Davis, who 
made the decision to close all State owned cave resources, was there in person 
to face all those impacted.  U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Biologists Andrew 
King and Scott Johnson, both out of Bloomington, IN presented info from their 
side. They did a good job of inviting grottos, outdoor clubs, miners, loggers 
and other stakeholders from Indiana and surrounding states. They all stayed 
late until all questions were answered! 

The Presentation
The first portion of the meeting was a video presentation showing the 
investigation of bat fatalities in a Vermont cave. It was devastating to see 
the huge amounts of little brown bats dead and dying from the effects of this 
thing. A lot of them just froze by going to colder spots outside to try to slow 
down their metabolisms in a desperate attempt to use as little energy as 
possible. The scientists studying the carnage were the same folks who have 
spent the last 40 or whatever years of their lives trying (successfully) to 
boost the populations of these very animals. You could see the devastation 
written all over their faces. 

The History 
Even though I thought I was well informed, there were several points that I 
learned from the informational portion of the meeting. WNS was first documented 
in a commercial cave (Howe Caverns) in New York State. Also further background 
info stated that a similar looking fungus has been documented on bats seen in 
Europe. The statement was also made that Europe does not have significant 
numbers of bats with colonies of 50 or less seen at the most populous areas, 
and I got the impression that for the amount of caves there are in Europe, 
there should be a lot more bats. Cavers in Europe have seen a similar fungus on 
an occasional bat and considered it normal for what they have seen over the 
years. A photo showed a single bat with fungus growing on its nose within a 
small cluster, and it was the only one in the cluster that had it. The European 
fungus is currently being compared to the US version to see if it is the same 
organism. If positive, the case could
 be made that WNS was brought here by people who visited a cave in Europe and 
then came to the US and visited Howe Caverns.

The Migration Patterns
After the video, several charts were put on the screen that showed the 
migration and interaction routes of the bats as documented by tagging bats and 
seeing how they migrate. The interaction patterns showed the bats mingling down 
a main path from New York that paralleled the East Coast south through the 
Virginias and then west into Kentucky. This was the main traffic route with 
auxiliary routes going south to Tennessee and further and other auxiliary 
routes coming up to Indiana from Kentucky. Sadly, Southern Indiana is not very 
far from the main route going east / west through Kentucky. 

The Spread
The next charts showed where WNS was known in 2006, 2007, and 2008. The 
progress of the spread followed right along that main traffic pattern shown on 
the charts. And while human transmission has been possibly documented in a 
couple caves, WNS seems to be spreading rapidly right along the main migration 
and interaction route that has been determined by research over the years. If 
human transmission were a major factor, WNS should have shown up at several 
places off of the main migration routes.  Also, by looking at the distance it 
has traveled since 2006, one could easily see that it could be in our state as 
early as 2009 - 2010 hibernation period (this winter!), or almost certainly the 
season after that. Not much time to do something about it! 

Indiana Populations
Other charts showed info about the bat populations in Indiana, which are around 
250,000 total (2007 estimate). Roughly 95% of our cave bats are the endangered 
Indiana bats, and roughly 95% of those bats are in 30 caves in Indiana. And a 
large portion of those bats (98%) are in 9 of those caves, with the other 21 
caves containing 1000 or less each. Basically, our bats are mostly concentrated 
in 9 caves... A comment was made during the slides that the Indiana bat was not 
hit by WNS as quickly as the little browns. I was relieved to hear this, but I 
asked about this after the meeting and was told that they are at just as much 
risk as the other species, which left me a bit confused. 

After viewing all the information presented and then hearing a discussion about 
the government response of "risk management", there seemed to be some 
contradictions within their responses. This is not a criticism, they do care 
about the bats, the cavers, and are trying to balance everyone's concerns and 
interests and make the right decisions. Their initial decision to close caves 
was made quickly even though Indiana is outside the 17 state impacted / buffer 
zone that the USFWS has asked for voluntary cooperation. The officials want 
feedback from all concerned to help make informed decisions moving forward. The 
caver perceived contradictions are listed as follows: 
(1) The first place WNS was documented was a commercial cave, and with Mammoth 
cave being right in the center of the main migration route, and with Kentucky 
having way more bats than most states, one would think that officials would 
close all state and federal commercial tours until some kind of decontamination 
protocol could be found and implemented. These closures would greatly speed the 
process of getting decon procedures in place. The need for decon protocol was 
discussed but no decon action has been implemented yet, we were told this is 
forthcoming. They also discussed the intent to recommend decon procedures for 
privately owned commercial caves. Based on the info, my impression is that 
commercial caves are ground zero for the possibility of human transmission. I 
believe that Mammoth Cave National Park is visited by more folks than any other 
NP in the US! The commercial caves remain open with no decon protocol in place. 
One could argue that with all
 the privately owned caves around MCNP, closing the park caves does not make 
sense, but this emphasizes the great need for some kind of decon procedure to 
be in place at the park and strongly suggested to the private operations. 
  
(2) The one group which has implemented decon procedures is the organized 
cavers. It is possible that cavers unknowingly spread WNS early on, but now 
that this is known, the cavers as a group have taken the most action in 
determining how to decontaminate, not using gear or clothes used in WNS states 
in other areas, closing caves with major bat populations, changing the focus of 
caving events all across the USA to protect bats, and many of those caves with 
major bat populations were already protected from other risks by organized 
cavers. Most of the data available about caves, bats, cave maps, cave locations 
was supplied by volunteer groups of organized cavers. And when the blanket 
closure policy was questioned, the officials even admitted that the caving 
groups represented in the room were not the major concern, it was those who are 
less in the know about WNS who visit caves who are considered the risk for 
human transmission. The organized cavers are the
 group doing the most to prevent the spread. 

(3) "Risk management" is basically an attempt to avoid human transmission to 
keep from speeding the transmission rate that the bats will do on their own, to 
theoretically buy time to find a treatment. In our state this could be feasible 
since the bats are so concentrated, but all admit that a human introduced 
"cure" may be a long shot. One could assume that assessing the risks would 
start with an estimate of how much time it will take for the bats to bring the 
fungus to any particular region and then work backwards from there. A time 
estimate for WNS spreading to Indiana was not mentioned, I had to ask for a 
time estimate based on the known transmission rate. This topic was so 
depressing that it was grudgingly addressed, and their best guess was in the 
next 1 or 2 seasons it will be here. This is such a short amount of time that 
bat transmission may work just as quickly as human transmission would at this 
point in our state. I think that many cavers in
 the room felt the following actions are appropriate: (1) closing the state and 
federally owned bat caves, (2)contacting the owners of the remaining of the 30 
prominent bat caves, (3) an education program to teach the public about the 
great risk to our bat populations, the effects wiped out bat populations will 
have on our eco system, and how important bats are to the chain of life, would 
all be more effective than blanket closures. This would promote awareness and 
compliance, while blanket closures would keep out the most informed (the 
organized cavers) and the least informed (independent sport cavers and 
spelunkers) would still be caving. Bats have had a bad rap in the public eye 
for many, many years; a PR program could really help the public understand that 
bats should be protected.

(4) Since the Daniels Administration was elected Governor in Indiana, logging 
in our State Forests has greatly increased (as much as ten fold). The amount of 
land being timbered increased and also the amount and variety of wood taken in 
those tracts increased. This does have a negative impact on the bats. Bart Nott 
had recently seen some freshly logged tracts above the caves and was disturbed 
by the amount of cutting done. He asked if suspending such logging has been 
considered and the response was a flat out no. This seemed inconsistent with an 
all out policy to protect bats, but it does open another can of political 
worms, groups do not like environmental restrictions that block profits from 
natural resources and land development. State officials have to juggle all of 
these groups. It is much easier to just tell cavers they cannot go to any 
caves... 
  
(5) The biologists on the panel were concerned greatly about the 20 privately 
owned of the 30 notable bat caves and are in communication with those owners 
regarding this issue. The cavers were very supportive of this stance. It was 
obvious that the state and federal officials had not yet hammered out a solid 
policy of how to handle the few thousand other privately owned caves in 
Indiana. The bat biologists seemed to think that only the major bat cave owners 
should be contacted, but others on the panel felt that press releases should be 
made to ask all cave owners to close their caves. The cavers felt like this 
would be very bad for many sensitive relationships developed with cave owners 
over decades and that the single bat or 2 in isolated caves should not be 
grouped with the populated bat caves when assessing the risk. The amount of 
time it would take for someone's cousin from New York to infect a single cave 
with 1 bat and then the amount of time it
 would take for that bat to spread this to the major bat populations is a much 
longer process than the obvious bat to bat transmission timeline will be. I 
know this is some conjecture on my part, but so is risk management in general. 
Here again, cavers felt that benefits of education would far outweigh voluntary 
compliance to voluntary blanket closures that would create uncertainty in 
landowner relations for possibly decades into the future.

In conclusion, after talking with several of the cavers present at the meeting, 
the organized cavers are very concerned and want to do everything in their 
power to prevent the spread of this devastating disease. I think that most of 
the cavers feel that we are the backbone of everything that is known about 
caves, bats, and karst in this country, and no one is paying us for this stuff; 
it’s because we love caves and bats. The majority of cavers feel that a blanket 
closure of state, private, and federal caves in the Eastern United States is a 
prohibition that is unrealistic and not the best solution to the WNS problem. 
They feel that identifying the major bat caves, protecting them, minimizing the 
possibility of human transmission by cave tours with decontamination, 
minimizing the possibility of human transmission by cavers with decontamination 
and travel restrictions, and education of the public for (1) awareness of how 
to prevent human transmission,
 (2) for awareness of how important and beneficial bats are to our environment, 
(3) and to communicate the need for funding for research; are the most 
effective ways to move forward.

Thanks very much,

Ron Adams,    NSS # 41114
Chairman, Central Indiana Grotto
Member, Indiana Karst Conservancy, Indiana Cave Survey

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