Diana,
Just remember, you could always use those candles for your third source of light (remember the days?) when your carbide runs out. Louise > CC: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:49:24 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honeycreek Cave air and related topics > > Ha ha ha, the best part of this discussion is that while we waited for > 9 hours for the divers, we burned just about every scented candle that > Mallory had purchased at a Bath and Body Works blowout sale! Not only > did we have stale air from nasty smelling wet suits and heavily > breathing sherpas, it was intermingled with the enticing aromas of > "Butterfly Garden" and "Sweet Pea." In addition to adding heat to our > trash sacks to keep us warm, the candles also did an OK job of letting > us know that there really wasn't that much CO2 in the passage. > > Mallory packed up most of the candle stubs before we left; on the way > out of the cave, every time we'd come to a low spot in the ceiling, I > could smell those frickin' candles again. I suppose that those scents > will always remind me of this particular tank haul trip. > > Diana > > On Jun 8, 2009, at 7:08 PM, David wrote: > > > If you have 20 something cavers in a small passage with bad air > > breathing heavily > > for 9 hours, do expect the oxygen level to improve or get worse ? > > > > I propose future trips take precautionary measures and release some > > oxygen > > into the passage. > > > > It would be little use to install a big fan and flexible conduit to > > force some air into the shaft entrance > > because the air would distribute evenly throughout the whole cave and > > it would also block the entrance > > from easy in and out trips. > > > > Also, > > > > A tiny air shaft could be drilled, that could also be used to lower > > the diving gear into the room where > > the divers suit up at. > > > > Even a 3 inch diameter shaft would be helpful, because you could lower > > a telephone cable, or pump > > oxygen into the room, lower emergency food and water, etc. > > > > I propose a 3 inch shaft be drilled to confirm the exact location of > > the 1st sump, and then use the > > diver's survey to mark the surface where the cave is going. > > > > > > I would also like to propose that the TSA, TCMA, and every Texas caver > > unite behind a single goal, and > > I believe that goal should be to finish the map of Honeycreek. ( > > after ICS of course ) > > > > I hope I live long enough to see the TCMA acquire the Shaft Entrance > > and at least some sort of permanent > > access agreement to the Natural Entrance, like an easement. > > > > David Locklear > > caver in Fort Bend County > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Diana R. Tomchick > Associate Professor > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > Department of Biochemistry > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > Rm. ND10.214B > Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. > Email: [email protected] > 214-645-6383 (phone) > 214-645-6353 (fax) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >
