Hey, DJ, good to hear you...

DJ Walker wrote, on 11/6/09 7:06:
The conditions would need to be defined more. Blanket statements like this always concern me. Tell me more about what you intend to do with it.

OK, well, vertical caving is a very specialized activity. Interested persons should _only_ learn from instructors with deep and thorough knowledge and lots of experience. The opinions expressed in this forum are not meant to replace adequate instruction in controlled settings, and are not meant to fully explore the intricacies of technical exploits like vertical caving. Anyone trying to learn or engage in vertical caving without proper instruction is risking injury or death. _Now_ that we have the legalese out of the way...


They can be. I would not take an eight plate specifically to do the one nuisance drop between several bigger drops.

:) Of course! Why carry an extra piece of gear when you already have another descender with you, ideally one that can easily tackle more complex descents? I meant it like for a cave that is mostly horizontal and there is only one or two small (like 10 ft) drops, too hard to downclimb easily/safely, too short to really need full vertical gear, so you just rig a short rope, straight down, and perhaps use a seat harness made out of webbing and down you go, onwards to the new virgin passageways that are ahead.

Take care,

     - Fofo

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