Ahhhhh shoot, I'll make it all real simple. If it ain't in Houston, then 
its a suburb of Houston  ...  ; )   ... anybody got another Shinner?

Later, ~F~


> At 10:37 AM 2/24/2009, Minton, Mark wrote:
> > >I thought West Texas was everything west of the Pecos and east 
> > Texas >was everything east with the exception of Houston which is
> > considered >no-mans land.
> >       You left out Central Texas, where the center of the caving 
> > universe is!
> 
> As a trained, professional geographer (which qualifies me, along with
> 6-bits worth of money, to ride on most any city bus) I have an opinion
> or two on that. But first:
> 
> Terms like East Texas, West Texas, Southwest Texas, and North Central
> Texas define some nebulous and often dynamic regions oriented to
> generalized compass directions. These terms are often interspersed by
> both geographers and non-geographers in trying to define geographic
> regions with somewhat less nebulous terms such as High Plains and
> Coastal Bend. You can see that the two sets of terms are not
> comparable. We should use either directional terms (which with a state
> shaped like Texas is a bit of a stretch) or we should use
> topographical terms (which are more descriptive of what's really
> there). Or we could just color in the voting precincts and refer to
> them as red or blue or yellow regions of the State.
> 
> Based on humidity, vegetation, and other factors, it can be 
> considered that the eastward limits of West Texas can sometimes reach
> as far as Kerrville--but not always. It swings back and forth a good
> bit along with the related meteorlogical phenomenon known as a 'dry
> line' and shares, from time-to-time, parts of what is called The Hill
> Country with Central Texas. (Recall that The Hill Country and West
> Texas are not in parallel competition with each other, so can share
> territory.) To the west it extends nearly to Tucson, although some of
> our caver associates (non-geographers) claim it stops at Midland--the
> rest to the west being a nominal part of either Mexico or New
> Mexico--I can't remember which. The question always arises in my mind
> as to how far north West Texas extends. Does it include the Pan
> Handle?
> 
> Or is that North Texas? It is generally conceded, I think, that 
> Dallas and Forth Wort, and those menial towns up near the Red River
> represent North Texas while the Pan Handle, which is farther north,
> does not. 'Splain that if you can. If you pointed your compass in the
> direction of the Pan Handle it would render north west, yet I don't
> think that term is commonly applied to it. But, maybe?
> 
> Neither does North Texas extend eastward into East Texas which is at
> the same latitude and, again, I think, considered to be that great
> humid area of black gumbo mud and tall mixed forest that extends west
> pretty much as a continuation of Louisiana about as far west as the
> trees do. The fact that The Great Plains also begin at that spot is
> not a factor of compass direction but vegetation (and perhaps soil
> type) and otherwise unrelated. Now I guess that there's a little area
> up there north of the gumbo but still in the trees that's called
> Northeast Texas by some on account of not wanting to leave out any of
> the cardinal directions and winding up with a hole in the map. Being
> close to Arkansas there's a lot of confusion rampant thereabouts. And
> East Texas extends south a bit lower than Houston, encroaching well
> into the lower latitudes, but not the terrain, of Central Texas
> 
> South Texas is pretty much everything south of an east-west line
> running through some arbitrary part of San Antonio--say the Balcones
> Escarpment. North of that is Central Texas and, coincidentally, The
> Hill Country (all 3 always capitalized). Now, where South Texas and
> West Texas delineate themselves could be hard to put ones foot or
> finger on--even were one to have large hands and feet. It's out there
> somewhere in what we might oughta rightly call Southwest Texas, but
> can't really define that either without a few stout drinks. (One thing
> is certain--the college formerly called Southwest Texas State(SWTSTC)
> was nowhere near that part of the State.)
> 
> That leaves only the Coastal Plain, nominally running from 
> Brownsville to Port O'Connor (as they say in the hurricane weather
> warnings), to be given a direction--obviously Southeast Texas, as that
> direction is otherwise unasigned and probably more correctly occupied
> by the Gulf of Mexico which can't be renamed. But it overlaps both
> South Texas and East Texas at its extremes, both of which exhibit some
> (sometimes significant, sometimes not) climatic differences.
> 
> Now, there you have it; if you have questions please keep them to
> yourself. ...and excuse my broken spell checker, por favor. --Ediger
> 
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