texascavers Digest 18 Apr 2009 20:19:23 -0000 Issue 743
Topics (messages 10501 through 10514):
Thought this might be of interest
10501 by: Robert E Burnett
TSA Spring Convention dinner...
10502 by: Stefan Creaser
Re: Banff Mountain Film Festival San Antonio on May 3
10503 by: Geary Schindel
Fellow Texas Caver, Roger Moore, In The News
10504 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
Re: Banff Mountain Film Festival San Antonio on May 3 ROGER MOORE'S DISCOVERY.
10505 by: Fritz Holt
10507 by: Lyndon Tiu
10508 by: CaverArch
2009 Spring TSA Convention presentations
10506 by: Diana Tomchick
ICS
10509 by: Preston Forsythe
10511 by: Jim Kennedy
10512 by: Pat Kambesis
Danish researcher finds nanothermite in 9/11 dust/ sorta relevant
10510 by: Nancy Weaver
4x4 truck for sale
10513 by: wesley s
First Aid Volunteers for ICS Needed
10514 by: Nancy Weaver
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Banff World tour and Radical Reels sponsered in SA and Austin by Whole Earth
Provision Co.
Click the link for information and a sample.
www.wholeearthprovision.com/news/2009/03/197/
Rune
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To all those attending TSA spring convention...
Please can you bring your own plates, cutlery and drinking vessel for
the dinner on Saturday night. In case you forget your own we will have
some as cover.
In the case of their being leftovers; if you are interested please bring
some small plastic containers for the take-away.
Thanks, and see y'all next weekend!
Cheers,
Stefan
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Rune, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Any cavers from San
Antonio want to get together for an evening out. We'll have to keep in
mind that bob has the cookout at the Branberger Ranch that weekend.
Geary
Folks,
It has recently been brought to my attention that Whole Earth Provisions
has announced the Banff Mountain Film Festival will be coming to San
Antonio on May 3. Note that for the first time in SA and is an
incredible opportunity to see some of the best mountain cinema in the
world. The San Antonio show date is Sunday, May 3 at the Empire Theatre
and the cost is $20. The San Antonio presentation will benefit Last
Chance Forever, the Bird of Prey Conservancy. This world famous film
festival travels in the US and Internationally each year. THANKS to
Whole Earth Provisions for helping make the showing possible. Folks, if
you love the outdoors but live indoors, this is about as good as it gets
without being there. Here is the link to the WHP's web site with
narrative.
Geary
Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer
Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, Texas 78215
210-222-2204
http://www.wholeearthprovision.com/news/2009/03/197/
The Banff Mountain Film Festival world tour dates for Texas are May 3,
4, and 5, 2009. This extraordinary group of films - hosted by Whole
Earth Provision Company for the fourth consecutive year - all include
mountain themes and typically involve a wide variety of high-adrenalin
"sports" activities, set in beautiful, often exotic places, with a
healthy portion of cultural storylines thrown in for good measure.
For the first time the Festival is expanding to a San Antonio venue for
one night (May 3rd). The Empire Theatre in the heart of old San Antone
will kickoff this year's presentation. On May 4th and 5th the scene
shifts to Austin's Paramount Theatre. The films known as the "World
Tour" will be shown in San Antonio on the 3rd and in Austin on the 4th.
The group called "Radical Reels" will be shown on the 5th and contains
an even higher level of action / adventure films for one night only.
The Texas edition of the film festival is presented to benefit two world
class organizations. The proceeds from the Austin shows will be donated
to Wild Basin Wilderness Preserve; while in San Antonio the proceeds
will be donated to Last Chance Forever, The Bird of Prey Conservancy.
Whole Earth is proud to support both these fine groups.
TICKET INFORMATION:
For a single night ticket the cost is $20.00. For both the World Tour
and Radical Reels shown in Austin, the cost is $35.00 when purchased
together. For students with a valid school ID the costs are $16.00 for
one and $30.00 for the two nights. Tickets are now available for the
Austin shows at the all three Austin Whole Earth Provision Co.
locations, the Paramount Theatre box office, on-line through
www.Gettix.net, or by phone at 866-443-8849.
Tickets for the San Antonio show go on sale soon - watch this site for
information.
Seating is General Admission, so come early to get a good seat and to
visit with some really unique non-profit organizations. You'll also want
to browse through a wonderful group of manufacturers of fine outdoor
gear and clothing. Those who have attended in previous years know that
some very cool giveaways and door prizes are part of the evening's fun
as well.
Click on the play button below to see a short video preview of the
Banff Mountain Film Festival's 2009 lineup plus clips from all the
worldwide sponsors for the production of the event.
NEW BENEFICIARIES OF THE BANFF FESTIVAL PROCEEDS
Whole Earth is very proud to announce the beneficiaries for the 2009
Banff Mountain Film Festival proceeds. Last Chance Forever, the Bird of
Prey Conservancy has been selected to be the recipient of the San
Antonio edition of the Festival and Wild Basin Wilderness Preserve is
similarly chosen for the Austin event proceeds. Last year's Festival
earned nearly $13,000 that was shared by Austin Parks Foundation and
TreeFolks, Inc. We hope to do as well this year.
Last Chance Forever <http://www.lastchanceforever.org> receives sick,
injured, and orphaned birds of prey. Their mission is to rescue,
rehabilitate and release back into the wild, hawks, owls, eagles,
falcons, and vultures. Furthermore, they understand that education is
the key to making a larger impact in the world and support this belief
with public education programming about raptors and practical
environmentalism. Since 1978 they have helped literally thousands of
raptors, while presenting their programs to more than one-half million
people per year.
Wild Basin Wilderness Preserve <http://www.wildbasin.org> was founded
in 1974 to protect 227 acres of Texas Hill Country on the western edge
of Austin. They maintain over three miles of hiking trails and host a
variety of events for both children and adults. Collaboration between
Wild Basin and St Edward's University enables the creation of programs
and initiatives that preserves this urban wilderness.
Let's all assist these two fine organizations continue to provide their
valuable services.
To learn more about the Banff Mountain Film Festival below is the link
http://www.banffmountainfestivals.ca/tour/
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Exclusive: Archaeologists pinpoint San Jacinto surrender
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/041609dnbussanjacinto.3ddefc4.html
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I'm not sure about Austin or San Antonio stations but channel 13 in Houston
will have an interview with Roger Moore tonight on the 6:00 o'clock news
concerning his recent discovery of the surrender site of the Mexican army at
the Battle of San Jacinto. Should be interesting.
Fritz
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From: Geary Schindel [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Banff Mountain Film Festival San Antonio on May 3
Rune, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Any cavers from San Antonio
want to get together for an evening out. We'll have to keep in mind that bob
has the cookout at the Branberger Ranch that weekend.
Geary
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Fritz Holt wrote:
I'm not sure about Austin or San Antonio stations but channel 13 in
Houston will have an interview with Roger Moore tonight on the 6:00
o'clock news concerning his recent discovery of the surrender site of
the Mexican army at the Battle of San Jacinto. Should be interesting.
Fritz
Yup, just saw our own Roger Moore on TV!
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Lyndon Tiu
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In some ways I'd rather be seen in a cave - about a rare a sight these days!
Roger
Roger G. Moore, Ph.D., RPA
President
Moore Archeological Consulting, Inc.
3511 Houston Avenue, Suite B
Houston, TX 77009
713 861-8663 (R Moore)
713 861-2323 (Lab)
713 861-8627 (Fax)
[email protected]
In a message dated 04/16/09 18:38:06 Central Daylight Time, [email protected]
writes:
Fritz Holt wrote:
> I'm not sure about Austin or San Antonio stations but channel 13 in
> Houston will have an interview with Roger Moore tonight on the 6:00
> o'clock news concerning his recent discovery of the surrender site of
> the Mexican army at the Battle of San Jacinto. Should be interesting.
> Fritz
>
Yup, just saw our own Roger Moore on TV!
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Lyndon Tiu
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The roster of speakers for the 2009 Spring TSA Convention is almost
complete, but there is still an opportunity for a few more people to
give a presentation. We have talks on geology, biology, cave
exploration in Mexico, ICS volunteer opportunities, TSA projects and
an intro to the cave survey program Walls. A little more
diversification would be great--for example, a short but entertaining
caving history talk would be fun.
One new feature to this year's presentations will be a "Caver's Show
and Tell Time." What's suitable for "Show and Tell?" Here's a few
examples:
1) Short cave video (less than 2 minutes, please);
2) That unique piece of new caving gear that you bought (or made, or
someone else made) that you can't cave without anymore;
3) That unique piece of old (more than 20 years old, please, but the
older the better) caving gear that everybody used to use, and now
today's young cavers look at you as though you're from another planet
when you wax on philosophically about how it was indispensable back in
the "Good Old Days" of caving;
4) Any cave-related artifact that involves an interesting but short
(approximately 2 minutes, please) story to explain its significance.
We'll schedule the Show and Tell time as the last presentation of the
day, so there will be ample time for people to ooh and aah over your
items and to ask questions.
If you wish to bring something for Show and Tell, it will be "first
come, first served," so make sure you're ready at the end of the
regular presentations to "show us what you've got."
Remember, the TSA Convention will be held at Kerrville-Schreiner Park
on April 24-26, 2009.
Diana
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Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: [email protected]
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)
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Is the Northern Mexico pre-convention trip still on?
Preston in western KY
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Yes, but be prepared to rigorously follow all decon procedures. No bat caves
will be visited during that trip.
-- Crash
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From: Preston Forsythe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 4/16/2009 10:01 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS
Is the Northern Mexico pre-convention trip still on?
Preston in western KY
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Preston,
Check the ICS website - the most up-to-date trip status is listed in the
fieldcamps/excursions section.
pk
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Title: Danish researcher finds nanothermite in 9/11 dust/
sorta r
since many cavers have a piercing
interest in explosives, thought this would be appropriate
This is a translation of an
interview done on Danish TV on April 6th with Dr. Niels
Harrit, a research chemist (see reference to published
article at end) who has found unarguable proof of
nano-thermite in huge quantities from the dust of the 9/11 rubble.
When will we investigate what really happened? If you've read
alot of the information put together, you may remember that the
security firm for the Twin Towers was changed just before Sept. 11th,
and I seem to remember that major "work" which necessitated
offices being shut down on alternating days for 10 days before the
planes hit. Why is there so much resistance to really looking at
what happened? S.
The first author on this recent
paper,[1] Niels H. Harrit, Associate Professor at the Department of
Chemistry at the University of Copenhagen and expert in
nano-chemistry, has given the below interview at approximately 10:30
p.m. April 6, 2009 on TV 2 News in Denmark ( http://news.tv2.dk
), one of the two most respected Danish television
channels:
The following is an
English-translation transcript of the aforementioned
interview:
Interviewer: International
researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade
Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from
the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in
2001.
We turn our attention to 9/11: the
major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not
cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published
scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the
rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several
tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in
advance.
Niels Harrit, you and eight other
researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that
caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite?
Niels Harrit: We found
nano-thermite in the rubble. We are not saying only nano-thermite was
used. Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum
and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction
produces iron, heated to 2500 °C. This can be used to do welding. It
can also be used to melt other iron. Nanotechnology makes things
smaller. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny
particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat
develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives
to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It
contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket
fuel.
Interviewer: I Googled
nano-thermite, and not much has been written about it. Is it a widely
known scientific substance? Or is it so new that other scientists are
hardly aware of it?
Harrit: It is a collective
name for substances with high levels of energy. If civilian
researchers (like myself) are not familiar with it, it is probably
because they do not do much work with explosives. As for military
scientists, you would have to ask them. I do not know how familiar
they are with nanotechnology.
Interviewer: So you found
this substance in the WTC, why do you think it caused the
collapses?
Harrit: Well, it's an
explosive. Why else would it be there?
Interviewer: You believe the
intense heat melted the building's steel support structure, and caused
the building to collapse like a house of cards?
Harrit: I cannot say
precisely, as this substance can serve both purposes. It can explode
and break things apart, and it can melt things. Both effects were
probably used, as I see it. Molten metal pours out of the South Tower
several minutes before the collapse. This indicates the whole
structure was being weakened in advance. Then the regular explosives
come into play. The actual collapse sequence had to be perfectly
timed, all the way down.
Interviewer: What quantities
are we talking about?
Harrit: A lot. There were
only two planes, but three skyscrapers collapsed. We know roughly how
much dust was created. The pictures show huge quantities, everything
but the steel was pulverized. And we know roughly how much unreacted
thermite we have found. This is the "loaded gun": material
that did not ignite for some reason. We are talking about tonnes. Over
10 tonnes, possibly 100 tonnes.
Interviewer: Ten tonnes,
possibly 100 tonnes, in three buildings? And these substances are not
normally found in such buildings?
Harrit: No. These materials
are extremely advanced.
Interviewer: How do you place
such material in a skyscraper, on all the floors?
Harrit: How you would get it
in?
Interviewer: Yes.
Harrit: If I had to transport
it in those quantities I would use pallets: get a truck and move it in
on pallets.
Interviewer: Why hasn't this
been discovered earlier?
Harrit: By whom?
Interviewer: The caretakers,
for example. If you are moving 10 to 100 tonnes of nano-thermite
around, and placing it on all the floors. I am just surprised no one
noticed.
Harrit: As a journalist, you
should address that question to the company responsible for security
at the WTC.
Interviewer: So you are in no
doubt the material was present?
Harrit: You cannot fudge this
kind of science. We have found it: unreacted thermite.
Interviewer: What responses
has your article received around the world? It is completely new
knowledge for me.
Harrit: It was only published
last Friday. So it is too early to say. But the article may not be as
groundbreaking as you think. Hundreds of thousands of people around
the world, have long known that the three buildings were demolished.
This has been crystal clear. Our research is just the last nail in the
coffin. This is not the "smoking gun"--it is the
"loaded gun." Each day, thousands of people realize that the
WTC was demolished. That is something unstoppable.
Interviewer: Why has no one
discovered earlier that there was nano-thermite in the buildings?
Almost ten years have passed.
Harrit: You mean in the
dust?
Interviewer: Yes.
Harrit: It was by chance that
someone looked at the dust with a microscope. They are tiny red chips.
The biggest are 1 mm in size, and can be seen with the naked eye. But
you need a microscope to see the vast majority. It was by chance that
someone discovered them two years ago. It has taken 18 months to
prepare the scientific article you refer to. It is a very
comprehensive article based on thorough research.
Interviewer: You have been
working on this for several years, because it didn't make sense to
you.
Harrit: Yes, over two years
actually. It all started when I saw the collapse of Building 7, the
third skyscraper. It collapsed seven hours after the twin towers. And
there were only two airplanes. When you see a 47-storey building, 186
m tall, collapse in 6.5 seconds, and you are a scientist, you think
"What?!" I had to watch it again and again. I hit the button
10 times, and my jaw dropped lower and lower. Firstly, I had never
heard of that building before. And there was no visible reason why it
should collapse in that way, straight down, in 6.5 seconds. I have had
no rest since that day.
Interviewer: Ever since 9/11
there has been speculation, and conspiracy theories. What do you say
to viewers who hear about your research and say, "We've heard it
all before, there are lots of conspiracy theories." What would
you say to convince them that this is different?
Harrit: I think there is only
one conspiracy theory worth mentioning, the one involving 19
hijackers. I think viewers should ask themselves what evidence they
have seen to support the official conspiracy theory. If anyone has
seen evidence, I would like to hear about it. No one has been formally
charged. No one is "wanted." Our work should lead to demands
for a proper criminal investigation of the 9/11 terrorist attack.
Because it never happened. We are still waiting for it. We hope our
results will be used as technical evidence when that day
comes.
Interviewer: Niels Harrit,
fascinating. Thanks for coming in.
Harrit: My
pleasure.
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Note:
1. Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer,
Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth,
Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen, "Active
Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center
Catastrophe," Open Chemical Physics Journal, Vol. 2 (2009), pp.
7-31 http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/000000...
http://dx.doi.org/10.2174/1874412500902010007
http://visibility911.com/downloads/media/thermite-fingerprint.pdf
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A friend of mine is selling his 4x4 truck. Could make a nice caving vehicle.
Even if it isn't a Toyota.
Wes~
http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1121270703.html
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CALLING ALL MD'S, EMTS OR GENERALLY KNOWLEDGABLE FIRST AID TYPES.
ICS NEEDS HELP KEEPING A FIRST AID STATION OPEN 24/7 DURING THE CONGRESS
Please contact Nancy Weaver [email protected] or Bob Cowell
[email protected] if you can help with some shifts at the first aid
station. We are particularly looking for someone who might like to
use the station as their campsite (bed and bathroom) in exchange for
being on call for the
night shift. This is one volunteer job that can literally be done
while you sleep.
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