texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2009 19:12:46 -0000 Issue 750

Topics (messages 10594 through 10603):

TSS Board meeting
        10594 by: Ron Ralph

Re: Convention Wrap Up and Longhorn Reminder
        10595 by: Butch Fralia

Trying to contact mike walsh
        10596 by: Matt Turner
        10597 by: Matt Turner

Endangered Species Act back on track :
        10598 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

William Tucker
        10599 by: Lyndon Tiu

Science at CWAN
        10600 by: CWAN.boernenet.com

White Nose Syndrome
        10601 by: Minton, Mark

Devils Sinkhole Trip
        10602 by: Geary Schindel

I have a cabin reserved at Kerrville City Park for the ICS week, up for grabs
        10603 by: Jon Cradit

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Cavers,

 

There will be a board meeting of the Texas Speleological Survey this Saturday, 
May 2, beginning at 10:30 am. We will be going all day so it will be a good 
time for you to come by the office and take a look at the Texas files. You need 
not attend the Directors Meeting (unless you want) but can share lunch when we 
send out. I know several of you have complained that the Wednesday work 
sessions do not work for you so this is a good opportunity to see maps and 
files on the week-end. Let me know if you want to attend and I will put you on 
the gate list. And write if you need directions.

 

Ron Ralph

President

 

TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY – Meeting Agenda

TSS Office, Austin, 2 May 2009, 10:30 a.m.

❍  Call to order, introduce visitors, special guests and address visitor's 
business 
❍  President's Report
❍  Secretary's Report – McNatt (out of town)

                Action Items

                Minutes of Last Meeting: 
                Review between meeting business 
❍  Treasurer's Report - Cobb
❍  Editor's Report - Atkinson
                Map CD

                Monograph, Musgrove
                Reprint, Volume I

                Kerr County

                Texas Cave Fauna, Reddell/Krejca

❍  Office Manager's Report – Kennedy (report sent)

❍  Data Managers' Reports
                Digital database: Fralia 
                Bexar/Comal/Kendall: Veni
                Burnet/GUMO: Atkinson

                Central Edwards Plateau: Atkinson

                Culberson: Stafford
                Hays: Sprouse
                Kimble/Uvalde: Kennedy

                NW Texas/San Saba: Fralia

                Travis: Russell
                Williamson: Worsfold

                Fort Hood: Reddell

❍  Committee Reports

                Data Requests: Russell
                Information Tech: McKenzie
                Photo Archives: Kunath
                TexBib: Atkinson/McKenzie
                Website: Fralia

❍  Project Reports

                Amistad: Atkinson
                Colorado Bend: Kennedy

                Kickapoo Caverns/Devils: Cobb

❍  Old Business
❍  New Business

                Report on TSA convention and sales

                Review TSS participation at 15th ICS in July

                Modify definitions of cave, shelter, sinkhole and karst feature

                Change standard datum from NAD 27 to NAD WGS 1984

                Policy on cave number designations

                Policy on White-Nose Syndrome

❍  Announcements 

❍  Set next meeting and adjourn

 

 


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Don't forget, if you're registered for the TSA member area you can add your
own calendar events for trips like Longhorn.  Just log in to the member area
and one of the options after login is "Add Calendar Events".  It works
because that's the same function I use to put new stuff on the calendar.
You can also edit (change or cancel) events you put on the calendar.

 

Regards,

 

Butch Fralia

TSA Webmaster

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:30 PM
To: Lyndon Tiu; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Convention Wrap Up and Longhorn Reminder

 

D'oh!

 

You're correct, Lyndon.

 

 

The Longhorn Project is THIS weekend, Saturday, May 2nd.

 

June remains to be seen.

 

 

Mea culpa (must be that cold medicine I'm taking!)

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

  _____  

From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tue 4/28/2009 1:20 PM
To: Alman, Mark @ IRP
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Convention Wrap Up and Longhorn Reminder

[email protected] wrote:

> **
>
> *Longhorn Caverns State Park Dig, This Saturday, May 2nd*
>
> 
>
> This is a pre-ICS project! We will be meeting at the visitors center at
> Longhorn Caverns State Park at 9 AM, Saturday, June 7th, and caravan
> from there to the Crownover entrance. We will be prepping the area for a
> possible thru trip during ICS, hanging out at the beautiful state park,
> and conducting a possible thru trip. Please bring your own water, food,
> and camping gear as the Visitors area at the park is available Friday
> and Saturday nights.
>
> 
>
> Contact Mark, if you plan on attending!


Typo!

Subject line reads " ... May 2nd", but the text body, reads " ... June
7th ... "


--
Lyndon Tiu


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Can anyone give me Mike's Phone number?

Thanks, Matt Turner 


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without 
accepting it." - Aristotle


"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do 
that."- Norman Vincent Peale 


      

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Thanks to everyone who responded, but at this point it's getting excessive.
 Matt Turner 


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without 
accepting it." - Aristotle


"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do 
that."- Norman Vincent Peale 




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From: "Worsfold, John" <[email protected]>
To: Matt Turner <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:08:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Trying to contact mike walsh


512 249 cave
 
 
From:Matt Turner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Trying to contact mike walsh
 
Can anyone give me Mike's Phone number?

Thanks, 
Matt Turner 
 
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without 
accepting it." - Aristotle
 
"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do 
that."- Norman Vincent Peale 


      

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Salazar and Locke Restore Scientific Consultations under  the Endangered
Species Act to Protect Species and their  Habitats
April 28, 2009

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Secretary of  Commerce Gary Locke and Secretary of the
Interior Ken Salazar today  announced that the two departments are revoking
an eleventh-hour Bush  administration rule that undermined Endangered Species
Act (ESA)  protections. Their decision requires federal agencies to once
again  consult with federal wildlife experts at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration – the two
agencies that administer the ESA – before taking any action that may  affect
threatened or endangered species.

“By rolling back  this 11th hour regulation, we are ensuring that
threatened and endangered  species continue to receive the full protection of 
the law,
” Salazar said.  “Because science must serve as the foundation for
decisions we make,  federal agencies proposing to take actions that might affect
threatened  and endangered species will once again have to consult with
biologists at  the two departments.”

“For decades, the Endangered Species Act has  protected threatened species
and their habitats,” said Commerce Secretary  Gary Locke. “Our decision
affirms the Administration’s commitment to using  sound science to promote
conservation and protect the environment.”

In March, President Obama directed the Secretaries to  review the previous
Administration’s Section 7 regulation of the ESA –  which governs
interagency consultation – and Congress, in the 2009 Omnibus  Appropriations 
Act,
specifically authorized the Secretaries to revoke the  regulation.

Locke and Salazar said the two departments will  conduct a joint review of
the 1986 consultation regulations to determine  if any improvements should
be proposed.

The Endangered Species Act  was signed into law in 1973 to protect
imperiled species from extinction,  as well as conserve the ecosystems and 
habitats
necessary for their  survival.

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William Tucker, please contact me off-list.

Thank you.

--
Lyndon Tiu

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Just in case anyone on this list recieved any information to the contrary,
Cave Without a Name is avalible for and open to scientific research.
Please contact us if you have any (or need any) ideas involving this cave.
Anyone who has done research here in the past and would like to do a
follow up on their research please contact us.

Mike Burrell
Manager
Cave Without a Name


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      There have been several items concerning White Nose Syndrome lately.  The 
NSS has a new informational brochure here:  
<http://www.caves.org/WNS/WNS%20flier%20090428.pdf>.  There is also a campaign 
to try to convince Congress to fund WNS research.  You can take action to get 
support for this here:  
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2167/t/5243/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27148>.
  Finally, I heard last night on ABS News that they will be having a special 
report on WNS Thursday evening at 11 PM.

Mark Minton

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Folks,

 

I have a water level measuring instrument in Devils Sinkhole which I
need to remove on Saturday.  I'm looking for one or two folks (toadies)
that are vertically competent to go along and help.  This is a one day
trip scheduled for Saturday, May 2.  Devils Sinkhole is located near
Rock Springs, Texas, approximately 2 hours west of San Antonio.  I would
like to enter the cave in the early to mid morning.  You must have your
own vertical gear, know how to use it.  Be able to change from
rappelling to ascending and back to rappelling (be able to do a change
over) and not have a fear of heights (the drop is 145 feet).  This
should not be your first or even second vertical cave.  I'm looking for
more experienced folks - thank you.  You must also follow
decontamination procedures in that all of your equipment must be clean
and decontaminated before you arrive on the property.  You must also be
willing to sign a release to enter the cave.

 

 If you are interested, please send me an email at
[email protected]

 

Thanks,

 

Geary M. Schindel

 


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Hi folks,

I have a cabin reserved at Kerrville City Park, for the week of 18-26
July during the ICS.

It is on the Guadalupe River and it has AC and four beds.

I will be staying on campus, therefore the cabin is up for grabs for the
week.

The weekly rate is $385.00 plus I paid a deposit last year.

You could get it for the family or several folks go in together and stay
there.

 

First come, first gets it.

 

Jon Cradit

 


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