Mark,
I want to be able to have both hard paper and electronic copies.
I did not know when I registered yesterday that I would be giving up
the paper copies. If that is the case then unsign unregister me.
Also.... And I know it take lots of time, but are all of the previous
copies of TC going to be archived in PDF format and made available too?
The PBSS has no newsletter at this time, but I think that is about to
change soon. Several years ago when we did have a newsletter we
switched from hard copies to electronic PDF and now 99% of the
membership gets pdf copies made available of the PBSS website (Open
for everyone, because we want to encourage membership that way) The
few that don't have a Computer and Internet get theirs printed and
sent to them or picked up at meetings. So far it has worked and so far
so good. It took me a couple of years to scan and convert to PDF all
of the back issues and they are also available as well to all. Never
had any complaints except from me for all the work involved. Oh we did
have a guy email the grotto after reading one of the back issues of
"The Hole News" to complain about a chin strap on a helmet in a
picture or something trivial like that several years ago.
So for my 2 cents worth of my TSA membership is to have both paper and
electronic copies available to paid members and also tackle the task
of making back years issues available in electronic PDF format.
Oh and I have paper copies back to 1978 (thanks to Logan for selling
me a lot of missing ones and back issues at a really good price)
Thanks,
Bill
Quoting Keith Goggin <[email protected]>:
Maybe I've misread something, but seems to me that regardless of
whether or not you pay more for a hard copy the digital copies
should be available to all paid members.
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: Lyndon Tiu <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:40:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!
No, Lyndon.
We agreed to strongly encourage everyone to sign up in the Members
Section on the TSA website.
By doing so, this would indicate that you would be accessing the site
for each TC that comes out.
If you're on this Members List, you will NOT be receiving a hard copy.
We will gauge the response. We have 20 signed up, so far.
We may have to tweak this setup and, possibly, revisit in April.
More than one person has suggested going all electronic on the TC and
charging more for those that want the hard copy.
Lots of ideas and discussions and that's a good thing.
See you this evening, Lyndon. Drive careful and thanks for helping out!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:08:13 -0600 [email protected] wrote:
We may revisit this in April and go to the two-tiered membership,
A lower fee for electronic access only and a higher fee for a mailed
TC.
Q: I forgot how we agreed on this. Is it by default, starting Q1 2009 -
that everyone will NOT get a mailed hard copy unless they specifically
request for it? And they only have to request once and all future copies
will be mailed out to them or is it one request per issue?
Depending on the A to the above Q. An option is to sit this out and wait
and observe how things go. If the majority are happy with the electronic
version and only a few are being mailed out. Then we have solved the
primary goal of having electronic copies - saving money.
I think a majority will opt for the electronic copy anyways. Only a few
will want mailed hard copies. For the few that want it, let them have
it.
I (not getting a hard copy) personally don't mind paying the same
membership amount as a person who is getting his hard copy.
I believe most don't mind either.
--
Lyndon Tiu
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