On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:

Why does one have to jump through hoops to visit, say, Austin's Midnight Cave? >>>>>Julie Jenkins and a few others deserve a lot of credit for keeping those hoops as low as they are<<<<<, but nevertheless one wonders (or at least _I_ wonder) just why one can't make a spur-of-the-moment visit to Midnight Cave just for fun when one can go rappel a cliff on Barton Creek twice as high as Midnight is deep anytime one wants to without permission from anyone. Two answers occur to me. One is that is was easy to close off access to Midnight Cave, whereas closing off the cliffs along Barton Creek would be a lot more difficult (but I'll bet the safety fussbudgets would if they could). The second is that some cavers encourage governments to "manage" all their caves, which of course translates mostly into managing cavers. From the city of Austin up to the US Department of the Interior, the idea seems to be that cliffs are inherently open, whereas caves are inherently closed, except when they are gracious enough to make an exception. This is partly motivated, at least for those cavers, by the illogical notion that because some caves need protection, all caves need protection. Lechuguilla Cave needs protection. There is nothing anyone can hurt in Austin's Midnight Cave.



...except perhaps, themselves. Speaking in generic terms, it's easier to rescue a person that is hurt on the surface than it is to rescue someone who is hurt underground. Obviously some caves and cave passages will be more difficult than others to negotiate with an injured caver. Having suffered a broken ankle once in a cave (fortunately for all involved, it was an "easy horizontal cave" and I crawled out under my own power), perhaps I tend to think about the relative ease of rescuing someone whenever I take a trip in a cave, and adjust my thinking about the kinds of risks I'm willing to take accordingly.

Diana

P.S. I find it interesting that Joe Zamecki thinks that it's only a handful of people in the caving community that disagree with posting cave locations on the Internet. I guess he doesn't realize the number of NSS members out there (as of 2007, the NSS Annual Report lists "over 12,000 members."). I'd hardly call that a handful.

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Diana R. Tomchick
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University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
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