Ok, just the other day I defended this list serve because it had been so pleasant of a place where topics of caving, and things caving related took place. I defended it to an upcoming leader of a Texas grotto who told me about the horror stories he has heard regarding the religious debates, diatribes, complete and total off topic rants that fill up the inbox. Just about the time I try hard to defend Texascavers and he actually listens to me telling him that every once in a while some good info that might help his growing grotto WILL actually come out, this OT subject comes up again and has already spawned a lot of responses.. If he has signed on and is reading this, I am sorry I ever suggested you join this listserve, the breeders and supporters of these OT subjects will obviously never change.
You all may also consider that religion tends to be very poignant no matter which religion it is or isn't. This will hopefully remind you that some of you unfiltered and unwarranted beliefs might very easily offend some of your fellow cavers. Why would you want to do that? Anyways, I will bet that many reading this have been enjoying the caving related bliss of this (caving related) list serve, and I ask that we don't go back down this path, yet again.. If so, good people, like the upcoming grotto leader, will be out of touch with the local caving world because the list serve is mostly defunct, and I would hate to see that.. TS Religion/ re·li·gion, noun "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." -Invisible man who makes things -Things happening by themselves over an un-monitorable period of time in contradiction to accepted laws of physics Either one fits the bill I suppose. And from the perspective of the 'believer' of any opposing view, the other will appear to be ignorant or simplifying things to ease ridicule. But yah, OT... and once again I'm sucked into it like a black hole... -B On 7/10/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:Is this OT? ---- Louise Power <[email protected]> wrote: > > As we used to say in East Texas, "Same difference."> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 > 08:54:52 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]; > [email protected]> CC: [email protected]> Subject: RE: > [Texascavers] Hippie chix, healing> > That's just *one* religion. What about > the hundreds of other ones?> > -----Original Message-----> From: George-Paul > Richmann [mailto:[email protected]] > > Explain the difference between > 'illusory' forms of religion and> religion? George Carlin had a pretty good > diatribe on the subject. ;-)> > "Religion has actually convinced people that > there's an invisible man> living in the sky who watches everything you do, > every minute of every> day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten > things he does> not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he > has a> special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and> > anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke> and > scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!> > But He loves you. He > loves you, and He needs money! "> > --GP> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:32 AM, > <[email protected]> wrote:> > What do shamanic rituals, holographic > medicine, holistic healing, and> > spiritualism all have in common besides > old hippie chix? They are all> > entirely illusory forms of religion!> >> > > Sleaze> > > > -- > George-Paul Richmann> (513) 490-3100> > [email protected]> > -- > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and > any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not > the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not > disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store > or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected]> For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
