I just cringed. I'm not going to worry about it terribly much right now. I 
think it will all work out. 

Kara
----- Original Message ----
From: Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]>
To: Kara Savvas <[email protected]>
Cc: Simon Newton <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:43:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

I know this sounds bad, but we really need to keep this place On-Topic for the 
off-topic things, therefore, the caving stuff should really go only to the main 
list, [email protected] .  I don't want emails being cross-posted, 
that will actually split the two lists and it shouldn't be like that.

Everyone on this list should be on the main list, but not vice-versa.

Charles


On 1/15/08, Kara Savvas <[email protected]> wrote:
and I hope that people also post cave related stuff here, too. I'm interested 
in it all!

K

----- Original Message ----
From: Simon Newton <[email protected] >
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:21:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

Don't worry.  Curmudgeoness will drive people away from the main list. 
I expect this list to take over in the next few years, especially if
all you ever see are cave reports and flashlight reviews.  I'll post
some really boring, multi-part cave reports just to help the process
along.

Simon



> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Charles Goldsmith" <[email protected]>
> To: "Kara Savvas" < [email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:52:21 -0600
> Subject: Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?
> There are always people who complain, that want change, and most aren't 
> willing to help with it.  I probably went off on Wes a bit hard, but it 
> struck a nerve and I'm having a bad year so far, so I vented a bit.   He 
> deserved it, but probably not as harsh as I did it. 
>
> Splitting the list is probably an easy way out, shutting up the complainers, 
> but I'm hoping that it will actually drive more people to our Texas caving 
> chatter here on either of the lists, making us grow more.   Growing these 
> lists also helps out our Grotto's and Regional groups (TCMA, TSA, TCC, etc). 
>
> If people have ideas that will help us grow as a community, I'm game and will 
> assist where I can.
> Charles
>

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