What always worries me about the issue of charging for access is that it
sets the land owner up for liability -- which he is protected against if he
does not charge.  We might hope this would never be an issue, but a rancher
could lose more than he might ever anticipate, and the fall out would be
extreme on all landowner with caves, who might not analyze all the details.

This sounds like a lot of "could's" and "if's" but I don't think it is that
farfetched.  
Landowners need education sometimes, on the negative aspects of taking money
for caving.  Guess that might close the cave altogether, but as far as I am
concerned it is already closed.  



-----Original Message-----
From: David Locklear [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Langtry Lead

I have always assumed that the $ 100 was for a weekend per caver.
I don't know if family members who are just camping would have to pay.

I am assuming this price includes 3 fun caves and 2 nights of camping
and access to several hundred acres of his ranch, and a free dip in his
stock tank on the hill.

So if you subtract a portion of the fee as a camping fee, and then divide
by 3 then, it really only cost about $ 30 per cave.

Maybe you could talk him into mending a fence or feeding or watering
some animals or overhauling his tractor motor?

However, seeing all the passages in all 3 caves on the same weekend
would be hectic.

David Locklear

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