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Well written and informative with great > pictures. > Thank you from lovers of caves, bats and all things related. Proud to call > you a Texas friend. > BAT LIVES MATTER! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 5, 2017, at 12:35 AM, Jerry via Texascavers >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Chuck Sutherland >> >> A Tennessee naturalist's photography, maps, and projects. >> 2016/11/20 >> >> Why We Don't Share Cave Locations >> >> People often ask myself and other cavers to give them cave locations and >> cave information. I always reply, "I don't give out cave locations". Not >> knowing the history of reasons why I do this, I am often asked why. This is >> my response. >> >> We love to hang out with, and take new people caving. Some see us as stingy >> stodgy keepers of secrets (and some cavers are), but I see myself as a gate >> keeper. I am not all powerful, and I am fallible, but my knowledge extends >> far beyond what an inexperienced caver (or spelunker as they often call >> themselves) does. >> >> That is important because the conservation ethic we practice on the surface >> doesn't always work underground. Also the way we understand our environment >> to keep ourselves safe doesn't work the same way underground. These two key >> issues are the main reason why I won't give out cave locations. >> >> First, let's address the conservation issue. If you consider the combined >> historical, archaeological, paleontological, biological, and mineralogical >> resources of a cave to be finite (which they are), then they can be used up. >> >> We consume cave resources by destroying them. And history has shown us over >> and over again that is what happens when the general public is aware of a >> cave. Pictured below is a civil war ladder that was burned in a campfire >> inside a cave no doubt by fools burning their own cultural history. That >> ladder had been there from at least Civil War era, perhaps longer. >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/6138611367 >> > > ----- Message truncated ----- >
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