James, my information from the Apple app review indicated that this app does 
not support tracks (like iHike) and that some of the maps are rather old. I 
guess that depends on exactly where the maps come from. On iHike Larry James 
converts "his" PICT maps (I think that is the format) from various maps 
available on the internet. Topo Maps is also said to have issues importing a 
standard gpx file. Maybe the developer just doesn't update the app very often, 
and sometimes the older maps may be what you want. I get multiple updates on 
iHike every year.

 - Pete

On May 30, 2017, at 2:55 PM, JAMES JASEK via Texascavers wrote:

I use an app in my iPhone called Topo Maps: It really is a fantastic app as you 
can load in any Topo Maps of all of American and it is just part of the app. 
Maps can be loaded as a small map, but I recommend using the full topo maps. 
This way the map  can be enlarged to see full detail.


The app was developed by Phil Endecott, a  Brit, and he does some caving and is 
an avid backpacker. He also replies to all emails. The app is fantastic and 
very very complete and will allow you to record cave locations. When maps are 
loaded in you can go from map to map seamless .

http://topomapsapp.com

There is more in this app than I can describe. Look hat the site I sent

James  Jasek


> On May 30, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Louise Power via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> I may be (definitely am) old fashioned, but I still trust paper more than 
> electronics.
> 
> Louise
> 
> 
> From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> on behalf of Charles 
> Loving via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:17 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Cc: Charles Loving
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] GPS Navigation gadgets
> 
> Thank the gods some one can use maps. When Kim Jung Ding Batt destroyed the 
> GPS system.
> 
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:52 PM, PRESTON FORSYTHE via 
> Texascavers<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> Hey, topos are still in style. That is all I use. A topo with a cave location 
> is the simplest thing.
> 
> You have not navigated until the one klick grid is solid green and no contour 
> lines or blue lines and your life depended on knowing where your were. Ask me 
> how we did it and I will tell you a story at the NM convention coming up fast.
> 
> 
> Preston in KY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 29, 2017 10:58 AM, Pete Lindsley via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Charles and David: I thought Navigon was a bit pricy, particularly since long 
> ago I had purchased iHike, following many years of use of MacGPS Pro on a 
> Mac. [https://www.ihikegps.com/]  "No charges for Maps…Ever" . Download your 
> maps when you have internet access. Take track logs and set waypoints in the 
> field, and if you missed a map you can download it later to see where that 
> new-found cave waypoint is located. Sailors will be interested in a related 
> IOS application called iSail. Larry James does a great job updating his apps 
> and listens to his user's suggestions.
> 
> - Pete
> 
> On May 28, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers wrote:
> 
> I'd suggest using your smartphone, and IMHO, google maps is superior to 
> anything else, including the dedicated ones.  The fact that it's always 
> updating and you can send corrections as well is great.
> 
> It will do offline mapping, but it isn't the best at that.  I do keep another 
> app on my iPhone as a backup that has offline maps, Navigon.
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, David via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> This may surprise the young cavers, but just about 5 years ago, most cavers 
> did not have any kind of street navigation gadget in their cars.
> 
> I can only guess that 40% either have a dedicated navigation gadget in their 
> car,  or they mount their large smartphone or phablets in a bracket.
> 
> I hope to purchase a dedicated navigation gadget this week.
> 
> Anybody have any tips ?
> 
> Is a touch-screen an important feature ?
> 
> Is a slim model an important feature ?
> 
> Does brand matter ?
> 
> Why not just get a 2nd phone line ?
> 
> David Locklear
> dlocklea...@gmail.com
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