OK.  I’ll try to straighten out the confusion about the caves at Langtry.

A roadcut on US 90 west of Langtry exposed two fissure caves on opposite sides 
of the road.  One, the eastern-most was called Langtry East Gypsum Cave.  The 
other, nearby, slightly west and on the opposite side of the road was called 
Langtry Gypsum Cave.  Both these caves were destroyed when the highway was 
rerouted some years ago.

Elsewhere, near Langtry, are Langtry Lead Cave, Emerald Sink, Langtry Quarry 
Cave, and Fisher’s Fissure.

They were, for a time in the early 1960s, frequently visited by cavers from UT 
Austin and Sul Ross-Alpine.  They are all “sporting” caves.  After a time, 
access became difficult and Texas cavers moved on to other challenges.

These caves are all well described in the TSS literature.

===Carl Kunath


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From: Katherine Arens via Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 11:29 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: Katherine Arens
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Langtry caving

Langtry Lead, Langtry Quarry, Langtry cave
k

  On Oct 21, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

  Thanks, David. June and I enjoyed visiting with you at TCR. Fritz Holt

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 19, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:


    I went to Langtry Leads twice. And to a sink out there somewhere. Did some 
caving on the Alamo Village Ranch for Happy Shahan looking for guano to mine. 
All a long time ago.

    On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

      David,
      Good information. What are the names of the other two caves? I have made 
the drop into the main cave in the Hwy. 90 cut at Langtry some years ago with 
Preston McMichael and other friends.
      Fritz Holt

      Sent from my iPhone


      > On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, David via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
      >
      > I mentioned last month that I had discovered that the landowner of the 
3 big caves out at the big ranch north of the town of Langtry had passed away.
      >
      > I made a diligent effort to contact his large family and offer 
condolences.
      >
      > They are now aware of my intentions.
      >
      > I can only hope that someday one of them will contact me expressing 
interest in assistance with visiting the caves or reach out on their own to 
another caver.
      >
      > I have guided several trips into each of the 3 caves, but the last time 
was at about 19 years ago.  I am not in good enough health to do it any time 
soon.
      >
      > These caves are warmer and dustier and drier than caves in the Hill 
Country.    Emerald Sink probably has a huge bat population.
      >
      > Proper gear is just a caving quality headlamp ( $ 30 to $ 70 from Frys 
), jeans and t-shirt, plenty of water or Gatorade and some lightweight cotton 
gloves and any kind of helmet.
      >
      > Thin kneepads for those who can not tolerate occasional crawling.
      >
      > Maybe something new will happen in 2018 in the Langtry Caves.
      >
      > But as of October 19, I do not know if they want cavers to contact 
them, or who in their family wants to be the cave contact, or even if any of 
them still own the ranch.
      >
      > I do not plan to ever reach out to them again.   The ball is in their 
court.
      >
      > If my effort fails, then another caver should try, or attempt a 
different approach method, but at least wait a few months.
      >
      > David Locklear

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