Minor change to Mark’s version. On a trip w/Brian b4 he passed, to Carrizal, where he recounted the incident and the shaft.
On May 29, 2018, at 11:00 AM, texascavers-requ...@texascavers.com wrote: Send Texascavers mailing list submissions to texascavers@texascavers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to texascavers-requ...@texascavers.com You can reach the person managing the list at texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Texascavers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Brinco Rescue (Julia Germany) 2. Re: Appropriate cave place names (Logan McNatt) 3. Re: Appropriate cave place names (George Veni) 4. Re: Appropriate cave place names (Julia Germany) 5. Appropriate (correct) cave names (Carl Kunath) 6. Re: Appropriate cave place names (Mark Minton) 7. Re: Appropriate cave place names (George Veni) 8. Re: Appropriate cave place names (Julia Germany) 9. Adams Cave (Mixon Bill) 10. 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Don't miss out! - 8th ISCA CONGRESS / ITALY (Geary Schindel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 16:00:41 +0000 From: Julia Germany <ju...@trigrants.com> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brinco Rescue Message-ID: <730f302b-0094-41a4-871d-a76bf2441...@trigrants.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Would love to see a pic of Ediger’s truck with below mentioned accoutrements! - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com > On May 27, 2018, at 14:28, "speodes...@gmail.com" <speodes...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Complete with toilet seat on hood with Hitler mannequin and ceiling fan in > the camper. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 12:06:21 -0500 From: Logan McNatt <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <e50b9c65-8b3d-7943-3ca8-99a9f65bb...@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/5d69e171/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 17:43:53 +0000 From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <by1pr0601mb1370b6e625f876ee9a2b625fa0...@by1pr0601mb1370.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream passage. We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com<mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com> On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net> -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. Bill Steele _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/f5d4fdae/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 18:30:55 +0000 From: Julia Germany <ju...@trigrants.com> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <b69ceb56-edc2-4719-b4e3-af02222a7...@trigrants.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi George! I thought Creature completed the sump surveys? - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com<mailto:ju...@trigrants.com> On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream passage. We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com<mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com> On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net> -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. Bill Steele _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/4521e87e/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 13:37:18 -0500 From: "Carl Kunath" <carl.kun...@suddenlink.net> To: "TexasCavers" <Texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: [Texascavers] Appropriate (correct) cave names Message-ID: <16DE2D7218F9427C8B61B4A653670D63@Samsung> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Adams’ Cave: Logan, it was NEVER properly called Adam’s Cave. The cave was first explored in 1962 when it was named Adams’ Cave because Leo Adams was in control of the property at that time. It was reported to the NSS as Adams’ Cave. It went into the TSS archives as Adams’ Cave. The San Antonio cavers likely learned of its existence because they read about Adams’ Cave in The Caves of the Stockton Plateau, a 1968 Texas Speleological Survey publication. It was discussed for the next 15+ years as Adams’ Cave. Maybe we should rename Powell’s Cave as Treasure Cave, or something thought more “catchy” than the name of the owner. After a lapse of a few more years, if a surveying program is initiated, a new name could be chosen. ===Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net From: Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:06 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. Bill Steele _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/72fa240f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 11:49:08 -0700 From: Mark Minton <mmin...@illinoisalumni.org> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <H2PW5MEVI4U4.IB93I3PYPY0D1@BZWEB01OC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Gary Poole also has a place named for him in Honey Creek: Poole's Pool. We were surveying beyond the Trifurcation in waist- to chest-deep water. Gary was sketching and suddenly stepped off into a deep pothole. He went in over his head, but managed to keep the book dry by holding one arm up over his head. That single hand with the book sticking out of the water looked like "Thing" on the Addams Family. In Cueva de la Peña (SLP, Mexico) Jeff Horowitz dropped a coil of rope into a deep pothole full of water at the base of a short drop. He managed to retrieve the rope after diving for it. That place became known as Horowitz Sunk. Then there's the "Can You Stay Dry" passage in Joya de Salas. There was a deep pool covered with scuzzy organic debris that one could tiptoe around on skinny ledges while doing an undercling on small nubbins. It was a totally committing move, because you had to lean back over the water. If it worked, you got off dry, but if you missed a foot- or handhold, you got totally submerged. More than one person took the plunge, as did another coil of rope. We finally got the rope back by fishing it out with a tent stake lashed to a pole. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Mon, 28 May, 2018 at 1:44 PM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: To: texascavers@texascavers.com Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream passage. We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com<mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com> On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net> -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. Bill Steele -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/85b0b019/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 20:11:00 +0000 From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <by1pr0601mb13706c1daa7104cd070b1d48a0...@by1pr0601mb1370.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Creature and James Brown dove upstream and there are still more sumps to do there. Downstream has never been dove. Is a bit more challenging because it is more than twice the distance but also because you can float all of the gear upstream but have to carry it downstream because the water is too shallow for floating in most stretches. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Julia Germany Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:31 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Hi George! I thought Creature completed the sump surveys? - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com<mailto:ju...@trigrants.com> On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream passage. We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com<mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com> On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net> -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. Bill Steele _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/d53e49fc/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 21:51:27 +0000 From: Julia Germany <ju...@trigrants.com> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <4cfa18dc-0922-41af-8b0f-f5ca96220...@trigrants.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for the update. Would be great to go back and work on that project. Fond memories of being a dive team Sherpa. 😀 - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com<mailto:ju...@trigrants.com> On May 28, 2018, at 15:12, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: Creature and James Brown dove upstream and there are still more sumps to do there. Downstream has never been dove. Is a bit more challenging because it is more than twice the distance but also because you can float all of the gear upstream but have to carry it downstream because the water is too shallow for floating in most stretches. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Julia Germany Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:31 To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Hi George! I thought Creature completed the sump surveys? - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com<mailto:ju...@trigrants.com> On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote: Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream passage. We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. George ******************** George Veni, PhD Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) and President International Union of Speleology (UIS) Direct address at NCKRI 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: +1-575-887-5517 Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 Fax: +1-575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org> www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address: Titov trg 2 6230 Postojna Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan McNatt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested. Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com<mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com> On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net> -------------------------------- On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. 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It should have been Adams's Cave. -- Mixon ---------------------------------------- A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. ---------------------------------------- You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or edi...@mexicancaves.org ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 19:04:34 -0500 From: Logan McNatt <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate (correct) cave names Message-ID: <ee9d92da-41b3-4dfa-81a0-84a912bc5...@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180528/a4e47bea/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 20:25:36 -0500 From: "George D. Nincehelser" <george.nincehel...@gmail.com> To: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Adams Cave Message-ID: <can5uorvvhwnsafrgmzw884spgkebmh7wppoxgb8xso1rjgh...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It comes down to a matter of style. Personally, I'd opt for "Adams' Cave". This is an interesting read on the subject: https://www.dailywritingtips.com/possessive-of-proper-names-ending-in-s/ george.nincehel...@gmail.com > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > That pesky apostrophe! Strictly speaking, if one wants the possessive form of > the cave name, neither Adam's (puts it in the middle of the poor guy's name) > nor Adams' (Adams is not plural) is correct. It should have been Adams's > Cave. -- Mixon ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 21:30:18 -0500 From: David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: CaveTex <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: [Texascavers] Adams's Cave Message-ID: <caecwswpppw3kjvbsei5j4felqb_nbyknc7ng+n06vhgc1jv...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Logan, I am surprised with your humorous sarcastic dating of the cave was at only 4,000 B.C. I think most of the scientist that lean towards that crazy theory use 8,000ish B.C. On the walls of the Memorial Student Center at A&M is the very map of human history by Adams himself. It is or was a fascinating artsy timeline showing the rational for the theory https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~226099~5505934:Composite--Adams--Synchronological- http://www.worldhistorycharts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/adams-synchronological-map-of-history.jpg I think some of the hard-core fanatics of that chart are willing to admit that the chart could really reflect 20,000 years of human history. I am more interested in the details of the definition of "omnipotence". To me, that not only infers time-travel, but even more exciting - the ability create and travel thru multiple parallell universes. Homo sapiens are so arrogant in their belief that they are at the top of the food chain, when we may not even grasp "parallel-space," or thousands of dimensions. We may have even come here from another dimension due to a freak accident. D.L. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not much info in the public post and being that I’m not on Facebook I can’t read into the reply’s. As I understand it, the University of Texas is no longer willing to allow visitors* to the University Speleological Society meetings. They also instituted advance paperwork to be completed for hosting guest* speakers. * a visitor and/or guest is anyone not affiliated with the university through enrollment or employment. Obviously, this excludes practically everyone in the Underground Texas Grotto and will likely result in the end of a University Speleological Society. At least moving forward we wont have to dance around with semantics as if there’s two different organizations. We’ve known this could happen for quite some time, so a dedicated few have actually already done some research in the realm of meeting spaces. It won’t be easy to replace what we had so if you have any novel contacts or leads I'm sure the officers would appreciate you reaching out. The Facebook post suggested “this week’s meeting may unfortunately just have to be canceled” [sic]. While I don’t anticipate finding a replacement meeting facility on this short of notice, I would suggest many will still rally at The Posse East this Wednesday - for what might well be the last time. Wasn’t that where the Underground Texas Grotto officially meets, anyway. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:19:40 +0000 From: Denise P <pepabe...@hotmail.com> To: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: [Texascavers] UTG Meeting Message-ID: <sn2pr03mb23832a986c842cb87f7f603eb5...@sn2pr03mb2383.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From Patty Calabrese: Hi all. We've been expecting this for some time, but University of Texas has decided we are no longer able to use a room on campus for our grotto meetings. We will keep you posted if another location very quickly comes up, but this week's meeting may unfortunately just have to be cancelled. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180529/9219bf9c/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 07:07:10 -0500 From: John Brooks <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names Message-ID: <aa59d77e-b3d7-47f3-8334-5d0df4545...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Appropriate or inappropriate cave names?: There is a small cave in Oklahoma that we named “dog shit pit”. The first person down complained “oh hell there is just a bunch of dog shit down here”. I thought that was a weird thing to say and wondered why a dog would poop there....so I questioned him.....and the response was “yeah....it’s real f@@ing dog shit....” After he returned to the surface - I had to get on rope and go down and see. It was tight with razor like rock blades, bad air, some mud....and maybe some animal bones. But no dog shit. Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@illinoisalumni.org> wrote: > > Gary Poole also has a place named for him in Honey Creek: Poole's Pool. We > were surveying beyond the Trifurcation in waist- to chest-deep water. Gary > was sketching and suddenly stepped off into a deep pothole. He went in over > his head, but managed to keep the book dry by holding one arm up over his > head. That single hand with the book sticking out of the water looked like > "Thing" on the Addams Family. > > In Cueva de la Peña (SLP, Mexico) Jeff Horowitz dropped a coil of rope into a > deep pothole full of water at the base of a short drop. He managed to > retrieve the rope after diving for it. That place became known as Horowitz > Sunk. > > Then there's the "Can You Stay Dry" passage in Joya de Salas. There was a > deep pool covered with scuzzy organic debris that one could tiptoe around on > skinny ledges while doing an undercling on small nubbins. It was a totally > committing move, because you had to lean back over the water. If it worked, > you got off dry, but if you missed a foot- or handhold, you got totally > submerged. More than one person took the plunge, as did another coil of rope. > We finally got the rope back by fishing it out with a tent stake lashed to a > pole. > > Mark Minton > mmin...@caver.net > > On Mon, 28 May, 2018 at 1:44 PM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: > > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and > Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when > we broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely > stream passage. > > We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we > found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later > trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and > downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving. > > George > > ******************** > George Veni, PhD > Executive Director > National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) > and > President > International Union of Speleology (UIS) > > Direct address at NCKRI > 400-1 Cascades Avenue > Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA > Office: +1-575-887-5517 > Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 > Fax: +1-575-887-5523 > gv...@nckri.org > www.nckri.org > > UIS address: > Titov trg 2 > 6230 Postojna > Slovenia > www.uis-speleo.org > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Logan McNatt > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names > > In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called > Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge > pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took > an unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in > honor of the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if > requested. > > Logan McNatt > lmcn...@austin.rr.com > > On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote: > Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly > appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at > Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. > The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. > We have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a > pool of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit. > Mark Minton > mmin...@caver.net > -------------------------------- > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured > his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a > military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to > rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk. > > Bill Steele > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180529/6543d638/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 07:57:24 -0500 From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] UTGrotto Message-ID: <fa41e297-8327-456c-a636-3ccbe3844...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It's not centrally located, and definitely not bikeable, but the University of Texas Speleological Society (aka UT Grotto) would be able to meet in the new Texas Speleological Center (aka Mixon's old house). Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On May 29, 2018, at 4:06 AM, Justin Shaw <jus...@oztotl.net> wrote: > > Welp, the cats out of the bag over on Facebook so I figured I’d give it a > mention here. > > Not much info in the public post and being that I’m not on Facebook I can’t > read into the reply’s. As I understand it, the University of Texas is no > longer willing to allow visitors* to the University Speleological Society > meetings. They also instituted advance paperwork to be completed for hosting > guest* speakers. > > * a visitor and/or guest is anyone not affiliated with the university through > enrollment or employment. > > Obviously, this excludes practically everyone in the Underground Texas Grotto > and will likely result in the end of a University Speleological Society. At > least moving forward we wont have to dance around with semantics as if > there’s two different organizations. > > We’ve known this could happen for quite some time, so a dedicated few have > actually already done some research in the realm of meeting spaces. It won’t > be easy to replace what we had so if you have any novel contacts or leads I'm > sure the officers would appreciate you reaching out. > > The Facebook post suggested “this week’s meeting may unfortunately just have > to be canceled” [sic]. While I don’t anticipate finding a replacement meeting > facility on this short of notice, I would suggest many will still rally at > The Posse East this Wednesday - for what might well be the last time. Wasn’t > that where the Underground Texas Grotto officially meets, anyway. > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 08:13:19 -0500 From: Crystal Datri <cdat...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UTGrotto Message-ID: <CAK1rMA6LsdqtDsJeEZcVP+Ws7HiWvJ4+f7Py=ehq28+kuyo...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There are a number of new eateries, breweries, distilleries, etc. in the vicinity. Crystal Datri > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's not centrally located, and definitely not bikeable, but the > University of Texas Speleological Society (aka UT Grotto) would be able to > meet in the new Texas Speleological Center (aka Mixon's old house). > > Jim > > Mobile email from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2018, at 4:06 AM, Justin Shaw <jus...@oztotl.net> wrote: >> >> Welp, the cats out of the bag over on Facebook so I figured I’d give it > a mention here. >> >> Not much info in the public post and being that I’m not on Facebook I > can’t read into the reply’s. As I understand it, the University of Texas is > no longer willing to allow visitors* to the University Speleological > Society meetings. They also instituted advance paperwork to be completed > for hosting guest* speakers. >> >> * a visitor and/or guest is anyone not affiliated with the university > through enrollment or employment. >> >> Obviously, this excludes practically everyone in the Underground Texas > Grotto and will likely result in the end of a University Speleological > Society. At least moving forward we wont have to dance around with > semantics as if there’s two different organizations. >> >> We’ve known this could happen for quite some time, so a dedicated few > have actually already done some research in the realm of meeting spaces. It > won’t be easy to replace what we had so if you have any novel contacts or > leads I'm sure the officers would appreciate you reaching out. >> >> The Facebook post suggested “this week’s meeting may unfortunately just > have to be canceled” [sic]. While I don’t anticipate finding a replacement > meeting facility on this short of notice, I would suggest many will still > rally at The Posse East this Wednesday - for what might well be the last > time. Wasn’t that where the Underground Texas Grotto officially meets, > anyway. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As I understand it, the University of Texas is no longer willing to allow visitors* to the University Speleological Society meetings. They also instituted advance paperwork to be completed for hosting guest* speakers. * a visitor and/or guest is anyone not affiliated with the university through enrollment or employment. Obviously, this excludes practically everyone in the Underground Texas Grotto and will likely result in the end of a University Speleological Society. At least moving forward we wont have to dance around with semantics as if there’s two different organizations. We’ve known this could happen for quite some time, so a dedicated few have actually already done some research in the realm of meeting spaces. It won’t be easy to replace what we had so if you have any novel contacts or leads I'm sure the officers would appreciate you reaching out. The Facebook post suggested “this week’s meeting may unfortunately just have to be canceled” [sic]. While I don’t anticipate finding a replacement meeting facility on this short of notice, I would suggest many will still rally at The Posse East this Wednesday - for what might well be the last time. Wasn’t that where the Underground Texas Grotto officially meets, anyway. _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. 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Houston-Tillotson College? 2) has anyone checked Scottish rite theater? 3) Get in touch with alamo draft house for the space they’ve bought in hyde park — not immediately, but for the near future. It’s a community center and has an auditorium 4) Kerby Hall School right north of campus 5) local churches other than baptist ************************ Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. 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In other words, be prepared for low, tight, porcupine groad holes or maybe they will turn out to not even be caves at all! Who knows? I'd like to try and be out there by 8:30 AM so that we have a full day for survey if needed (8-12 hrs). People are welcome to ride with me, but I'll be heading out from San Marcos so that might not be much help. I realize that this is on a weekday, but work or cave?..let your inner cave bum shine! Email me off list if you're interested. Ben Hutchins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20180529/c47b4520/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 15:09:43 +0000 From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> To: "'texascavers@texascavers.com'" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: 30th MAY: DEADLINE for EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION! Don't miss out! - 8th ISCA CONGRESS / ITALY Message-ID: <dm6pr05mb4043aac4bc7fdb9e8c858134d4...@dm6pr05mb4043.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" FYI, Looks like a great meeting. Frasassi is a world famous cave and well worth visiting. Geary Schindel [cid:image001.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] [cid:image002.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] [cid:image003.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] [cid:image004.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] [cid:image005.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] [cid:image006.jpg@01D3F6A1.289642A0] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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