What about a nice plaque inside Whirlpool cave Indicating that William Russell pound dog out and explore just came I think that would be a nice tribute to him
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Ernie and NSS Convention (Nancy Weaver) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:08:26 -0500 From: James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <42cb03bd-97f6-4610-a301-ff4e7bb44...@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature James Jasek Sent from my iPhoneX ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:44:36 -0500 From: Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <1ee1f358-c6b4-4742-80b8-49aaf8a59...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good idea! Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com > On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> wrote: > > Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug > out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be > renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature > > James Jasek > > Sent from my iPhoneX > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:15:57 -0500 From: Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> To: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <cajfdpxsa0xmsxq9p-nuqq4+oxfxqb1tnrflsnkd1tpzvnoe...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Good idea. Maybe a plaque of some kind??? On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good idea! > > Bill Steele > speleoste...@aol.com > >> On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but > dug out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave > should be renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature >> >> James Jasek >> >> Sent from my iPhoneX >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > -- Charlie Loving -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Even though it is almost 50 years > old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map > that will eventually lead to the rediscovery of *Eurycea robusta*. I > just wish Bill could be here when we find it. > > Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas > 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com > > > On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. > March 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but > not a complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? > > On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: > > thanks, bill for reminding us > katie > > On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society > (NSS), considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award > and the William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell > received the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave > scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are Bill > Elliott, Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. > > See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. > > http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml > > Bill Steele > speleoste...@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ************************ > Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 > ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 > Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 > 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 > University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 > Austin, TX 78712-1802 > -. .- > _..-'( )`-.._ > ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. > ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. > ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. > ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. > /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ > '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` > '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` > |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| > V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V > ` ` ` V ' ' ' > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.comtexascav...@texascavers.com > | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > -- Charlie Loving -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and location". -katie On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com<mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com>> wrote: Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature James Jasek Sent from my iPhoneX _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. 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URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190326/53e1714d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 21:19:36 +0000 From: Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <705689de-cebc-4428-90c5-0ba585901...@austin.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Charlie Loving: How about a cartoon for the Caver? . . . . On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com<mailto:lovingi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good idea. Maybe a plaque of some kind??? On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com<mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good idea! Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com<mailto:speleoste...@aol.com> > On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek > <caver...@hot.rr.com<mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com>> wrote: > > Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug > out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be > renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature > > James Jasek > > Sent from my iPhoneX > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com<http://texascavers.com/> > Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com<http://texascavers.com/> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -- Charlie Loving _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. 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URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190326/ae7e7753/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 21:26:07 +0000 From: Jon Cradit <jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <sn6pr05mb4173e8d93df806623ad18f45c2...@sn6pr05mb4173.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I remember mapping a particular long crawl in the back of Inner Space which lead us to a most beautifully decorated room. Maybe the Russell Crawl? JC From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> On Behalf Of Katherine Arens Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and location". -katie On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com<mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com>> wrote: Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature James Jasek Sent from my iPhoneX _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'||||\\|<smb://|>.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V ` ` ` V ' ' ' ***This is an external email - beware links & attachments from unknown senders*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190326/c91a14c0/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 21:29:54 +0000 From: Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <afc6d30a-5ca9-4ff3-b902-50771fc4c...@austin.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" much better! katie On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Jon Cradit <jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org<mailto:jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote: I remember mapping a particular long crawl in the back of Inner Space which lead us to a most beautifully decorated room. Maybe the Russell Crawl? JC From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com>> On Behalf Of Katherine Arens Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and location". -katie On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, James Jasek <caver...@hot.rr.com<mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com>> wrote: Since William Russell discovered whirl pool cave not only discovered but dug out most of the cave I really think that in honor of Bill the cave should be renamed William Russell Cave or something of that nature James Jasek Sent from my iPhoneX _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com<http://texascavers.com/> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'||||\\|<smb://|>.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V ` ` ` V ' ' ' ***This is an external email - beware links & attachments from unknown senders*** _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com<http://texascavers.com/> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Time flies when you are having fun. > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net> wrote: >> ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient than I am >> AGG'i >> >> >> From: "Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> >> To: "texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine >> covers >> >> I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological >> Investigations of Troglobitic Eurycea) report and am ever amazed at the >> effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even though it is almost 50 years >> old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map >> that will eventually lead to the rediscovery of Eurycea robusta. I just >> wish Bill could be here when we find it. >> >> Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 >> (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com >> >> >> On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. March >> 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but not a >> complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? >> >> On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: >> thanks, bill for reminding us >> katie >> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society (NSS), >> considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award and the >> William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell received >> the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave >> scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are Bill >> Elliott, Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. >> >> See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. >> >> http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml >> >> Bill Steele >> speleoste...@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ************************ >> Katherine Arens >> Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 >> ar...@austin.utexas.edu >> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 >> Dept. of Germanic Studies >> FAX (512) 471-4025 >> 2505 University Ave, C3300 >> Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 >> University of Texas at Austin >> Office: Burdine 320 >> Austin, TX 78712-1802 >> -. .- >> _..-'( )`-.._ >> ./'. '||\\. 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He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, > with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and > location". > -katie > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190326/3c126cc3/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:19:10 -0500 From: Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Bill Russell honors Message-ID: <ae531682-a95b-de8d-5b7c-21e40c7bd...@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" OK everyone thinking of ways to honor Bill, this will help. If you haven't already done so, pull out your copy of /50 Years of Texas Caving/ and go to the section called "Two Bills" starting on page 346. One is William J. "Bill" Helmer (NSS #3231). The other is William H. "Bill" Russell (NSS #4357). The sectionbegins: "The history of Texas caving has been profoundly influenced by two guys named Bill. Without either of them almost nothing would be the same." Pages 349-353 consist of anecdotes, quotations, and photos of the Bill we all know & miss. You will learn that "In Indian Creek Cave, there is an incredibly long and tortuous crawl named Bill Russell's Long Crawl." There is a photo of Bill surveying in William's Maze, Airman's Cave. Bill's opinion of Underground Exploration as told to Jerry Atkinson (excerpt): "While running through a borehole is more exciting than digging, it is not anywhere near 2,500 times as exciting. . . . Thus, there are several Travis County caves (like Airman's Cave) that are among the most exciting caves per foot in the world to explore. *Eat your heart out Huautla." *(my emphasis)* * Reading this section may give some of you ideas. For example, Bill Steele and Bill Stone, with that challenge from Bill Russell, consider naming the tightest, nastiest, longest, most tortuous, deepest crawlways in the Huautla system after William H. "Bill" Russell. He will love it! LowGun -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I’m glad you spoke up Nancy On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote: Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and location". -katie _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com<http://texascavers.com/> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. 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URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190327/50b42cf6/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:31:01 -0500 From: Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell honors Message-ID: <65a03dc5-0918-4aab-85e7-a5df896c2...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Referencing this: >>> Reading this section may give some of you ideas. For example, Bill Steele >>> and Bill Stone, with that challenge from Bill Russell, consider naming the >>> tightest, nastiest, longest, most tortuous, deepest crawlways in the >>> Huautla system after William H. "Bill" Russell. He will love it! <<< You can count on it. And soon. We leave for Huautla on Sunday. Surely we’ll discover a nasty enough crawlway. Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com > On Mar 26, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > OK everyone thinking of ways to honor Bill, this will help. If you haven't > already done so, pull out your copy of 50 Years of Texas Caving and go to the > section called "Two Bills" starting on page 346. One is William J. > "Bill" Helmer (NSS #3231). The other is William H. "Bill" Russell (NSS > #4357). The section begins: > > "The history of Texas caving has been profoundly influenced by two guys named > Bill. Without either of them almost nothing would be the same." > > Pages 349-353 consist of anecdotes, quotations, and photos of the Bill we all > know & miss. You will learn that "In Indian Creek Cave, there is an > incredibly long and tortuous crawl named Bill Russell's Long Crawl." There is > a photo of Bill surveying in William's Maze, Airman's Cave. > > Bill's opinion of Underground Exploration as told to Jerry Atkinson > (excerpt): "While running through a borehole is more exciting than digging, > it is not anywhere near 2,500 times as exciting. . . . Thus, there are > several Travis County caves (like Airman's Cave) that are among the most > exciting caves per foot in the world to explore. Eat your heart out Huautla." > (my emphasis) > > Reading this section may give some of you ideas. For example, Bill Steele and > Bill Stone, with that challenge from Bill Russell, consider naming the > tightest, nastiest, longest, most tortuous, deepest crawlways in the Huautla > system after William H. "Bill" Russell. He will love it! > > LowGun > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190326/b28b7239/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:36:44 -0500 From: Cathy Winfrey <cathywinfr...@gmail.com> To: Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Cc: Texas Cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] William Message-ID: <cak4nhw6fogyidrh3p0nq-91kttcy9zoibz_alexqvzsbmxv...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Maybe we can make that happen. On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 8:19 PM Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote: > that i think he would be honored about. > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 8:03 PM, Cathy Winfrey <cathywinfr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Do you think Bill would object to having a cave preserve use his name? > > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 4:53 PM Nancy Weaver <nan...@prismnet.com> wrote: >> >> thanks, Katie. I was going to post that I thought William would >> certainly prefer the cave keep its name. I’m glad you spoke up >> Nancy >> >> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> >> wrote: >> >> Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, >> with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and >> location". >> -katie >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ************************ > Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 > ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 > Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 > 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 > University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 > Austin, TX 78712-1802 > -. .- > _..-'( )`-.._ > ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. > ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. > ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. > ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. > /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ > '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` > '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` > |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| > V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V > ` ` ` V ' ' ' > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It looks like he was a hydrologist and geologist and worked most of his career in the Pueblo, Colorado area. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/austin-tx/peyton-abbott-8196551 I can only guess that some of the old-timers knew him, or knew of him. I could not find anything grotto related or speleological related in a brief Google search. I would bet that he knew all about Austin Caverns, and Cobb Caverns or anything else that was popular back in the early 1950s. Since his interest was hydrology, he probably poked around in every spring he could find, possibly even Honeycreek Cave. D.L. The good news is that other than Bill's recent obituary, I was not able to find anything else after an hour of searching the web. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It looks like he wasa hydrologist and geologist and worked most of his career in the Pueblo, Colorado area. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/austin-tx/peyton-abbott-8196551 I can only guess that some of the old-timers knew him, or knew of him. I couldnot find anything grotto related or speleological related in a brief Google search. I would bet that he knew all about Austin Caverns, and Cobb Caverns or anything elsethat was popular back in the early 1950s. Since his interest was hydrology, he probablypoked around in every spring he could find, possibly even Honeycreek Cave. D.L. The good news is that other than Bill's recent obituary, I was not able to find anythingelse after an hour of searching the web. _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill led the way throught that like a cave salamander. Not only was the long crawl a Wire Wiggle in the truest sense of the word, but on the far side it had a 120 degree bend. On the way out I learned one had to totally relax and flow like a worm, as thoughts of being Trapped entered my head....The knees would not bend around that sharp turn....I would not recommend that stunt again unless one weighted 165 pounds or less, and shorter than 5 ft. 11 inches tall.....The Wire Wiggle, which I bet Bill named, was even tighter than Dead Dog Cave also in Austin, another "test piece," of limited space caving. As for Dead Dog Cave, I think the Bittinger Brothers pioneered that one, but I would not be surprised if Bill Russell did not have a hand in it, too. I did that cave with Don Coons, on one of Don's first trips to Austin and "Onward Thru the Fog" caving adventures to Mexico.....Again, do not try Dead Dog unless you are 165 lbs. or less....I seem to recall Dead Dog was sealed by the city of Austin?? When Bill Russell moved to Kirkwood Circle he lived upstairs and the Bittinger Brothers lived downstairs. That was I believe the second caver house at Kirkwood, and after Frank Binney established 1307 1/2 Kirkwood. By the way changing the subject-if you were up one hour ago, before daylight, hope you noticed--Reddish Antares in Scorpio, Jupiter, the Moon, Saturn, and right above the eastern horizon-Venus. Great morning. That lineup will be visible for several mornings before dawn, with the distances between these migrating objects varying each day. Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 4:18:16 PM CDT, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: Time flies when you are having fun. On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net> wrote: ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient than I am AGG'i From: "Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> To: "texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine covers I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological Investigations of Troglobitic Eurycea) report and am ever amazed at the effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even though it is almost 50 years old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map that will eventually lead to the rediscovery of Eurycea robusta. I just wish Bill could be here when we find it. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> wrote: Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. March 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but not a complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: thanks, bill for reminding us katie On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society (NSS), considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award and the William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell received the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are Bill Elliott, Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ************************ Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at AustinOffice: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. 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URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190327/fb68b358/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:08:04 -0500 From: John Brooks <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine covers Message-ID: <4da8e37b-3284-4888-a446-b212acf84...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" When I was a young impressionable caver at Texas A&M, Bill Russell came to one of our biweekly grotto meetings and gave a presentation on “Caves”. In that slide presentation he had several photos of the “new” borehole in Airman’s Cave. It appeared to be 20’ tall passages.....until we finally realized that the scale figure was a GI Joe. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:54 AM, PRESTON FORSYTHE <pns_...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > The cave trip I made with Bill Russell I will always remember was to the very > back, read end, of Airman's. What I do not remember is any walking passage in > the cave. Zero, i.e., none. No walking passage. maybe a little stoop passage, > not much. And, the very worthwhile formation area, Selentites, (sp), long > crystal needles, the goal of the trip, was at the very end. Unfortunately, > the end was on the other side of the infamous----drum roll----WIRE WIGGLE..... > > The tightest cave passage I have ever been thru. > > Bill led the way throught that like a cave salamander. Not only was the long > crawl a Wire Wiggle in the truest sense of the word, but on the far side it > had a 120 degree bend. On the way out I learned one had to totally relax and > flow like a worm, as thoughts of being Trapped entered my head....The knees > would not bend around that sharp turn....I would not recommend that stunt > again unless one weighted 165 pounds or less, and shorter than 5 ft. 11 > inches tall.....The Wire Wiggle, which I bet Bill named, was even tighter > than Dead Dog Cave also in Austin, another "test piece," of limited space > caving. > > As for Dead Dog Cave, I think the Bittinger Brothers pioneered that one, but > I would not be surprised if Bill Russell did not have a hand in it, too. I > did that cave with Don Coons, on one of Don's first trips to Austin and > "Onward Thru the Fog" caving adventures to Mexico.....Again, do not try Dead > Dog unless you are 165 lbs. or less....I seem to recall Dead Dog was sealed > by the city of Austin?? > > When Bill Russell moved to Kirkwood Circle he lived upstairs and the > Bittinger Brothers lived downstairs. That was I believe the second caver > house at Kirkwood, and after Frank Binney established 1307 1/2 Kirkwood. > > By the way changing the subject-if you were up one hour ago, before daylight, > hope you noticed--Reddish Antares in Scorpio, Jupiter, the Moon, Saturn, and > right above the eastern horizon-Venus. Great morning. That lineup will be > visible for several mornings before dawn, with the distances between these > migrating objects varying each day. > > Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY > > > > > On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 4:18:16 PM CDT, Charles Loving > <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Time flies when you are having fun. > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net> wrote: > ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient than I am > AGG'i > > > From: "Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> > To: "texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine > covers > > I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological > Investigations of Troglobitic Eurycea) report and am ever amazed at the > effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even though it is almost 50 years > old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map that > will eventually lead to the rediscovery of Eurycea robusta. I just wish Bill > could be here when we find it. > > Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 > (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com > > > On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. March > 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but not a > complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? > > On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: > thanks, bill for reminding us > katie > On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society (NSS), > considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award and the > William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell received > the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave scientists > from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are Bill Elliott, > Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. > > See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. > > http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml > > Bill Steele > speleoste...@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ************************ > Katherine Arens > Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 > ar...@austin.utexas.edu > Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 > Dept. of Germanic Studies > FAX (512) 471-4025 > 2505 University Ave, C3300 > Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 > University of Texas at Austin > Office: Burdine 320 > Austin, TX 78712-1802 > -. .- > _..-'( )`-.._ > ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. > ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. > ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. > ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. > /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ > '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` > '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` > |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| > V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V > ` ` ` V ' ' ' > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > -- > Charlie Loving > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190327/d21f490a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:11:00 -0500 From: Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine covers Message-ID: <62971c64-2a75-4a71-a28f-15966d7f4...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes! The Little Man slide show. What a hoot. That should reemerge. At the end was a real human for scale. Bill Steele speleoste...@ail.com > On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:08 AM, John Brooks <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > When I was a young impressionable caver at Texas A&M, Bill Russell came to > one of our biweekly grotto meetings and gave a presentation on “Caves”. In > that slide presentation he had several photos of the “new” borehole in > Airman’s Cave. It appeared to be 20’ tall passages.....until we finally > realized that the scale figure was a GI Joe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:54 AM, PRESTON FORSYTHE <pns_...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> The cave trip I made with Bill Russell I will always remember was to the >> very back, read end, of Airman's. What I do not remember is any walking >> passage in the cave. Zero, i.e., none. No walking passage. maybe a little >> stoop passage, not much. And, the very worthwhile formation area, >> Selentites, (sp), long crystal needles, the goal of the trip, was at the >> very end. Unfortunately, the end was on the other side of the >> infamous----drum roll----WIRE WIGGLE..... >> >> The tightest cave passage I have ever been thru. >> >> Bill led the way throught that like a cave salamander. Not only was the long >> crawl a Wire Wiggle in the truest sense of the word, but on the far side it >> had a 120 degree bend. On the way out I learned one had to totally relax and >> flow like a worm, as thoughts of being Trapped entered my head....The knees >> would not bend around that sharp turn....I would not recommend that stunt >> again unless one weighted 165 pounds or less, and shorter than 5 ft. 11 >> inches tall.....The Wire Wiggle, which I bet Bill named, was even tighter >> than Dead Dog Cave also in Austin, another "test piece," of limited space >> caving. >> >> As for Dead Dog Cave, I think the Bittinger Brothers pioneered that one, but >> I would not be surprised if Bill Russell did not have a hand in it, too. I >> did that cave with Don Coons, on one of Don's first trips to Austin and >> "Onward Thru the Fog" caving adventures to Mexico.....Again, do not try Dead >> Dog unless you are 165 lbs. or less....I seem to recall Dead Dog was sealed >> by the city of Austin?? >> >> When Bill Russell moved to Kirkwood Circle he lived upstairs and the >> Bittinger Brothers lived downstairs. That was I believe the second caver >> house at Kirkwood, and after Frank Binney established 1307 1/2 Kirkwood. >> >> By the way changing the subject-if you were up one hour ago, before >> daylight, hope you noticed--Reddish Antares in Scorpio, Jupiter, the Moon, >> Saturn, and right above the eastern horizon-Venus. Great morning. That >> lineup will be visible for several mornings before dawn, with the distances >> between these migrating objects varying each day. >> >> Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 4:18:16 PM CDT, Charles Loving >> <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Time flies when you are having fun. >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net> wrote: >> ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient than I am >> AGG'i >> >> >> From: "Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> >> To: "texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine >> covers >> >> I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological >> Investigations of Troglobitic Eurycea) report and am ever amazed at the >> effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even though it is almost 50 years >> old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map >> that will eventually lead to the rediscovery of Eurycea robusta. I just >> wish Bill could be here when we find it. >> >> Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 >> (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com >> >> >> On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. March >> 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but not a >> complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? >> >> On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: >> thanks, bill for reminding us >> katie >> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society (NSS), >> considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award and the >> William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell received >> the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave >> scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are Bill >> Elliott, Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. >> >> See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. >> >> http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml >> >> Bill Steele >> speleoste...@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ************************ >> Katherine Arens >> Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 >> ar...@austin.utexas.edu >> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 >> Dept. of Germanic Studies >> FAX (512) 471-4025 >> 2505 University Ave, C3300 >> Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 >> University of Texas at Austin >> Office: Burdine 320 >> Austin, TX 78712-1802 >> -. .- >> _..-'( )`-.._ >> ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. >> ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. >> ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. >> ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. >> /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ >> '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` >> '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` >> |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| >> V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V >> ` ` ` V ' ' ' >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> >> -- >> Charlie Loving >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190327/279e8f53/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:21:23 -0500 From: Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine covers Message-ID: <d18d4264-d1d4-6cc2-224b-11f313c1b...@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" The Little Man made the cover of the July-August 1979 Texas Caver. "The Monster Borehole section of the Master Main Drain, Airman's Cave, Travis County, Texas. Photo by Bill Russell." Bill explained on page 63 of that issue "It is not that Travis County caves are too small, it is that Travis County cavers are too big." > On 3/27/2019 8:11 AM, Bill Steele wrote: > Yes! The Little Man slide show. What a hoot. That should reemerge. At > the end was a real human for scale. > > Bill Steele > speleoste...@ail.com <mailto:speleoste...@ail.com> > > On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:08 AM, John Brooks > <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com > <mailto:john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> When I was a young impressionable caver at Texas A&M, Bill Russell >> came to one of our biweekly grotto meetings and gave a presentation >> on “Caves”. In that slide presentation he had several photos of the >> “new” borehole in Airman’s Cave. It appeared to be 20’ tall >> passages.....until we finally realized that the scale figure was a GI >> Joe. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:54 AM, PRESTON FORSYTHE <pns_...@bellsouth.net >> <mailto:pns_...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >> >>> The cave trip I made with Bill Russell I will always remember was to >>> the very back, read end, of Airman's. What I do not remember is any >>> walking passage in the cave. Zero, i.e., none. No walking passage. >>> maybe a little stoop passage, not much. And, the very worthwhile >>> formation area, Selentites, (sp), long crystal needles, the goal of >>> the trip, was at the very end. Unfortunately, the end was on the >>> other side of the infamous----drum roll----WIRE WIGGLE..... >>> >>> The tightest cave passage I have ever been thru. >>> >>> Bill led the way throught that like a cave salamander. Not only was >>> the long crawl a Wire Wiggle in the truest sense of the word, but on >>> the far side it had a 120 degree bend. On the way out I learned one >>> had to totally relax and flow like a worm, as thoughts of being >>> Trapped entered my head....The knees would not bend around that >>> sharp turn....I would not recommend that stunt again unless one >>> weighted 165 pounds or less, and shorter than 5 ft. 11 inches >>> tall.....The Wire Wiggle, which I bet Bill named, was even tighter >>> than Dead Dog Cave also in Austin, another "test piece," of limited >>> space caving. >>> >>> As for Dead Dog Cave, I think the Bittinger Brothers pioneered that >>> one, but I would not be surprised if Bill Russell did not have a >>> hand in it, too. I did that cave with Don Coons, on one of Don's >>> first trips to Austin and "Onward Thru the Fog" caving adventures to >>> Mexico.....Again, do not try Dead Dog unless you are 165 lbs. or >>> less....I seem to recall Dead Dog was sealed by the city of Austin?? >>> >>> When Bill Russell moved to Kirkwood Circle he lived upstairs and the >>> Bittinger Brothers lived downstairs. That was I believe the second >>> caver house at Kirkwood, and after Frank Binney established 1307 1/2 >>> Kirkwood. >>> >>> By the way changing the subject-if you were up one hour ago, before >>> daylight, hope you noticed--Reddish Antares in Scorpio, Jupiter, the >>> Moon, Saturn, and right above the eastern horizon-Venus. Great >>> morning. That lineup will be visible for several mornings before >>> dawn, with the distances between these migrating objects varying >>> each day. >>> >>> Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 4:18:16 PM CDT, Charles Loving >>> <lovingi...@gmail.com <mailto:lovingi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Time flies when you are having fun. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net >>> <mailto:grub...@centurytel.net>> wrote: >>> >>> ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient >>> than I am >>> AGG'i >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com >>> <mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com>> >>> *To: *"texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com >>> <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles >>> and magazine covers >>> >>> I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological >>> Investigations of Troglobitic /Eurycea) /report and am ever >>> amazed at the effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even >>> though it is almost 50 years old, it remains a reference of >>> singular value and it is the treasure map that will eventually >>> lead to the rediscovery of /Eurycea robusta/. I just wish Bill >>> could be here when we find it. >>> >>> Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, >>> Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com >>> <mailto:a...@gluesenkamp.com> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan >>> <lmcn...@austin.rr.com <mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times >>> (e.g. March 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of >>> some of them, but not a complete collection or list. Does anyone >>> have those? >>> >>> On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: >>> >>> thanks, bill for reminding us >>> katie >>> >>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele >>> <cwilliamste...@gmail.com <mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological >>> Society (NSS), considered to be equally the highest, are the >>> Honorary Member Award and the William J. Stephenson Award >>> for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell received the Honorary >>> Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or cave >>> scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have >>> received it are Bill Elliott, Merlin Tuttle and Jim Goodbar. >>> >>> See this link for information about the award and a list of >>> recipients. >>> >>> http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml >>> >>> Bill Steele >>> speleoste...@aol.com <mailto:speleoste...@aol.com> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com >>> <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> >>> ************************ >>> Katherine Arens Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 >>> ar...@austin.utexas.edu <mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> Dept. >>> Phone: (512) 471-4123 >>> Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 >>> 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 >>> University of Texas at AustinOffice: Burdine 320 >>> Austin, TX 78712-1802 >>> -. .- >>> _..-'( )`-.._ >>> ./'. 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URL: <http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190327/13ae7059/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:27:23 -0500 From: John Brooks <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine covers Message-ID: <8b30acb8-11bc-4d13-9229-660ba2727...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Perhaps that section of cave should be renamed the “Russell Borehole”. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > The Little Man made the cover of the July-August 1979 Texas Caver. "The > Monster Borehole section of the Master Main Drain, Airman's Cave, Travis > County, Texas. Photo by Bill Russell." Bill explained on page 63 of that > issue "It is not that Travis County caves are too small, it is that > Travis County cavers are too big." > >> On 3/27/2019 8:11 AM, Bill Steele wrote: >> Yes! The Little Man slide show. What a hoot. That should reemerge. At the >> end was a real human for scale. >> >> Bill Steele >> speleoste...@ail.com >> >>> On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:08 AM, John Brooks <john.brooks.archit...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> When I was a young impressionable caver at Texas A&M, Bill Russell came to >>> one of our biweekly grotto meetings and gave a presentation on “Caves”. In >>> that slide presentation he had several photos of the “new” borehole in >>> Airman’s Cave. It appeared to be 20’ tall passages.....until we finally >>> realized that the scale figure was a GI Joe. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:54 AM, PRESTON FORSYTHE <pns_...@bellsouth.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The cave trip I made with Bill Russell I will always remember was to the >>>> very back, read end, of Airman's. What I do not remember is any walking >>>> passage in the cave. Zero, i.e., none. No walking passage. maybe a little >>>> stoop passage, not much. And, the very worthwhile formation area, >>>> Selentites, (sp), long crystal needles, the goal of the trip, was at the >>>> very end. Unfortunately, the end was on the other side of the >>>> infamous----drum roll----WIRE WIGGLE..... >>>> >>>> The tightest cave passage I have ever been thru. >>>> >>>> Bill led the way throught that like a cave salamander. Not only was the >>>> long crawl a Wire Wiggle in the truest sense of the word, but on the far >>>> side it had a 120 degree bend. On the way out I learned one had to totally >>>> relax and flow like a worm, as thoughts of being Trapped entered my >>>> head....The knees would not bend around that sharp turn....I would not >>>> recommend that stunt again unless one weighted 165 pounds or less, and >>>> shorter than 5 ft. 11 inches tall.....The Wire Wiggle, which I bet Bill >>>> named, was even tighter than Dead Dog Cave also in Austin, another "test >>>> piece," of limited space caving. >>>> >>>> As for Dead Dog Cave, I think the Bittinger Brothers pioneered that one, >>>> but I would not be surprised if Bill Russell did not have a hand in it, >>>> too. I did that cave with Don Coons, on one of Don's first trips to Austin >>>> and "Onward Thru the Fog" caving adventures to Mexico.....Again, do not >>>> try Dead Dog unless you are 165 lbs. or less....I seem to recall Dead Dog >>>> was sealed by the city of Austin?? >>>> >>>> When Bill Russell moved to Kirkwood Circle he lived upstairs and the >>>> Bittinger Brothers lived downstairs. That was I believe the second caver >>>> house at Kirkwood, and after Frank Binney established 1307 1/2 Kirkwood. >>>> >>>> By the way changing the subject-if you were up one hour ago, before >>>> daylight, hope you noticed--Reddish Antares in Scorpio, Jupiter, the Moon, >>>> Saturn, and right above the eastern horizon-Venus. Great morning. That >>>> lineup will be visible for several mornings before dawn, with the >>>> distances between these migrating objects varying each day. >>>> >>>> Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 4:18:16 PM CDT, Charles Loving >>>> <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Time flies when you are having fun. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM <grub...@centurytel.net> wrote: >>>> ps 1976 is only 43 years ago yer making me feel more ancient than I am >>>> AGG'i >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Andy Gluesenkamp" <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> >>>> To: "texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:11:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell, newspaper articles and magazine >>>> covers >>>> >>>> I have been reading my cherished copy of Bill's BITE (Biological >>>> Investigations of Troglobitic Eurycea) report and am ever amazed at the >>>> effort and thoroughness he put into it. Even though it is almost 50 years >>>> old, it remains a reference of singular value and it is the treasure map >>>> that will eventually lead to the rediscovery of Eurycea robusta. I just >>>> wish Bill could be here when we find it. >>>> >>>> Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas >>>> 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:34:19 PM CDT, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill also appeared on the cover of the Texas Caver several times (e.g. >>>> March 1995), and in newspaper articles. I have copies of some of them, but >>>> not a complete collection or list. Does anyone have those? >>>> >>>> On 3/25/2019 1:11 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: >>>> thanks, bill for reminding us >>>> katie >>>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Bill Steele <cwilliamste...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The two highest awards awarded by the National Speleological Society >>>> (NSS), considered to be equally the highest, are the Honorary Member Award >>>> and the William J. Stephenson Award for Outstanding Service. Bill Russell >>>> received the Honorary Member Award in 1998. Other Texans, or cavers or >>>> cave scientists from Texas or who moved to Texas, who have received it are >>>> Bill Elliott, Merlin Tuttle >>>> and Jim Goodbar. >>>> >>>> See this link for information about the award and a list of recipients. >>>> >>>> http://caves.org/committee/award/honorary.shtml >>>> >>>> Bill Steele >>>> speleoste...@aol.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>> >>>> ************************ >>>> Katherine Arens >>>> Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 >>>> ar...@austin.utexas.edu >>>> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 >>>> Dept. of Germanic Studies >>>> FAX (512) 471-4025 >>>> 2505 University Ave, C3300 >>>> Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 >>>> University of Texas at Austin >>>> Office: Burdine 320 >>>> Austin, TX 78712-1802 >>>> -. .- >>>> _..-'( )`-.._ >>>> ./'. '||\\. 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