My apologies, this is a lengthy response, please indulge me. šāļø I did shoot the photo and likely every photo taken with William in Blowing. In fact, almost a decade of photos of Blowing and numerous other caves in S Austin and Hays Co. that William and I worked in. I suspect the photo came from one of a few sources within various COA departments that William and I worked with. William & I produced several reports on various caves located on COA Water Quality Protection Lands. Those reports are property of the COA. I think weāre all pretty much aware of how info gets convoluted over time (even among caver reports & storiesš) and then there are always staff changes within any bureaucracy. Iām happy to contact the few folks who are still with the departments that know about Blowing Sink & our work. Iām also happy to contact the Public Info person and put them in contact with someone still in those departments who knows the accurate info. Many of those city staff folks who knew have now retired and new folks donāt know where to even look for accurate documentation within their departments. I feel confident that the person contacted by Ken Herman was scrambling to get āanyā info and was probably put on the spot to do so. We really canāt expect the non caving community to know the information, unless they are a caver āin the knowā or they know the appropriate department staff person to contact. A Public Info staff person isnāt the right person to contact about Williams Preserve at this time because since itās renaming & after numerous meetings Iāve had with City Council & staff, the Preserve is under a couple of different departments and between those departments theyāre trying to hammer out responsibilities, possible usage & preservation efforts going forward. Currently there is a lack of clear info and direction for Williams Preserve. Ok, thanks
On an upbeat note, I spent nearly 1 year working to get another COA Water Quality tract renamed for a person who also gave so much to the city and yet it only took 1 City Council meeting to have the Blowing tract renamed for William and his invaluable knowledge that the COA gained through all of our efforts on the COA lands. That is Unprecedented and Hooray for cavers. Now there are several cavers working for the city to assist with cave efforts and provide accurate information about Austin caves. Thanks for reading this lengthy explanation. > On Oct 21, 2019, at 11:11 PM, Katherine Arens <[email protected]> wrote: > ļ»æ Lighten up, people. Inform the public info person for the preserve ā SHE got it wrong. And i have no idea where the picture came from (jules, have you donated your pix to TSS with documentation?) k > On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:22 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > You need to know that the people you contact actually have the proper > information. That's no doubt not always obvious, but in this case, the UT > Grotto has been around for decades, and William Russell was a long-term > member, so it seems like a no-brainer to contact someone there. > > Mark Minton > [email protected] > >> On 2019-10-21 20:57, Amy Jasek wrote: >> "Thatās the cool thing >> about journalism. You donāt >> really have to know stuff. >> You only have to know how >> to contact people who know >> stuff." >> Jeez >>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 5:10 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Interesting that the author of that piece on Blowing Sink Cave never >>> contacted any cavers. He seems to be confused about the name of the cave >>> versus the name of the preserve. The article twice stated that the >>> original name of the cave system was the Blowing Sink Research >>> Management Area. He meant, of course, that that was the original >>> name of the preserve. >>> Mark Minton >>> [email protected] >>>> On 2019-10-20 14:33, Katherine Arens wrote: >>>> Thanks to Logan McNatt for pointing it out (hadnāt read paper yet). >>>> Pdf attached >>>> katie > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > [email protected] | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << ************************ Katherine Arens, Professor Phones: Office(512) 232-6363 [email protected] Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. )O O( ..|//||||`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`" '` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'.|||| ||||||||||||. . |||||||||||| ||||.`||.`\. /'|||'.|||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| ||||||.`|||`\ '.|||'.||||||| ||||||||||||{ }|||||||||||| |||||||.`|||.` '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||| |||.` |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V ` ` ` V ' ' ' _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com [email protected] | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
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