On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:56:15PM +0100, Norbert Nemec wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Norbert Nemec wrote:
>>> As it is, the patch will certainly not be liked by the emacs-fans among >>> the TeXmacs users, as it changes the selection behavior - which is >>> hardwired to something similar to emacs behavior - to a behavior more >>> standard for modern editors. >> And you sure push the buttons of the "emacs-fans" the wrong way by >> implying it is not a "modern editor". > Well - you may want to call it the best editor there ever was, but > still, you have to admit that it is has its antique edges. OK, I'll bite and rant. If you mean that it is "old", well, yes it is. And it is a good thing. In the same way that Unix is "old", the result of a long evolution. It seems that writing software that doesn't (to my judgement) unbearably suck takes decades of globally-mostly-positive evolution. Emacs and Unix both suck a lot, but in their respective niches (text editor and OS) I haven't found better yet. (As a sideline, in the end of the nineties, the evolution for MS Windows was negative as far as I was concerned. I was doing OK with Windows NT 4, but Windows 2000 was a huge step backwards as far as usability and documentation was concerned; that's what got me to try out GNU/Linux. In some way I should be thankful to Microsoft to have disgusted me so much I would go out and try something completely different, with a much steeper initial learning curve. Had they actually continued to improve their OS, I may actually never have tried out a Unix or Unix clone, or done so much later.) As far as selection/copy/paste behaviour is concerned, I have used both models (Emacs and MS Windows/KDE/Gnome) extensively and made a choice of which one I prefer; I chose the Emacs one, not because I'm more used to it. I was more used to the MS Windows one, seen that... I had been a MS Windows user for years; only then I tried Emacs. Running on MS Windows. And after a while I so much loved it (on UI and technical grounds) that I switched to it as my text editor of choice - under MS Windows. A negative point is that it should have a keybinding for "copy" by default. That's about what I can think of. The "newer" behaviour doesn't get browny points for being newer in my eye. Quite the contrary. And in my life story, the Emacs behaviour is the "new" one, because I started with the MS Windows behaviour. It started with a penalty (for being different than what I was used to), but still won. The relevance of all this to discussing what TeXmacs should or should not do? Very low, if any. Answers, if any, should probably go to private mail; Mail-Followup-To set accordingly. -- Lionel _______________________________________________ Texmacs-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/texmacs-dev
