Pranam 1 to Shri SKBji: read; but those words quoted was by Eckhart tolle and not mine; i replied to Tolle how bad the west twists Indian vedic system as Buddhism Hinduism as second and christianity included -summarising, all religions including Hinduism AS NOT ORIGINAL, which is untrue. Buddhism and christianity which followed as per your write up may not be original but Hinduism is the original -That is what I meant. 2 to Shri Bala Iyerji: No doubt Tolle wrote Buddhism which he learnt; but did not learn vedic system; he was fond of christianity as a speaker and book writer to sell; I appreciate on one part his knowledge; but was wrongly infusing only Buddhism especially in USA; the words he used " all spiritual teachings are not original-revealed who is he; when a Muslim came before the Maha periava expressing his desire to follow Hinduism, Periava said, your swadharmam is enough and you dont need to change your faith; that revealed HIS standard; and Tolle equals the only known religion and the religion of his place of action as equivalent to Hinduism which he is unaware. I have read many of his (Tolle) but i found no difference between Tolle, suki sivam, or Ravi or Amritananda etc There are many who preach but could not practice. Even there are people who appreciate OSHO but he is a tax evade who ran away from USA. Commercial pilots are in the same plane. Sorry sir KR IRS 29321
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 20:30, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes. Eckhart Tolle is great. I read lots of his books. > Everyone should read at least some of his writings. > > Thanks for posting about this great philosopher / Author. > Bala N. Aiyer > > > On Monday, March 29, 2021, 12:41:11 AM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Pranam > > Eckhart is a Guru like many in India; but west follows him > extolling him as Guru; thus, one day our sanathana dharma could be patented > as the ancient west sanathana dharma from Indian-ignorance as we copy > everything from the west. God save the country. > > It is said Spiritual teachings are not original and drawn from > Buddhism first , Hinduism 2nd and Christianity 3rd (!!1); thus the > interpretation starts and stamped authentic after 50 years. He learnt > Buddhism and so perhaps was taught thus by Lamas that Hinduism came from; > but no one would have taught him that Buddha learnt first under 4 Vedic > Gurus and then alone turned hostile to God worship, Punarjanma and rituals > ; his words were translated from Sanskrit to Pali and written after a great > gap by his disciples; what was preached might or might not have come back > as original since Buddhism was disintegrated into 9 divisions; idol worship > came into; relic worship came into; soul was not accepted as reborn but > the rebirth was accepted; rituals are in vogue; and what Buddha was against > and was not made a religion as Buddha- thoughts raised as a religion; and > the crux of Buddhism is eradicating the desire to cure down the suffering > which are in Vedam as KAMA-nishkamya; it is seen in B G also 2500 t0 3000 > years before; so Buddhism sprouted from Vedic system; without any change; > Vedic system went to Greece after the Mahabharatha war ,from where the > Parsi Hinduism which protected the Jews from slavery, turned into Jewism; > and old commandments became new commandments under Jesus that too after 42 > years after the death of Jesus as slightly varied each by four editors; > then Jesus went who was in Tibet in his 9th to 21 { even today west has > no answer for the Jesus life between 9th and 21st years and what I have > written here was based on the research the west books and videos and even a > film depicted from USA} years had carried down before Eckhart, the Greek > Hinduism + Parsism+ Buddhism =Christianism; then which is original and > which is not original?. KR IRS 29321 (Now the article I read) > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Eckhart Tolle: Why People Are Drawn to Him Is a Lesson in Itself > > David Gerken > <https://davidgerken.medium.com/?source=post_page-----37feee430325--------------------------------> > Oct 28, 2020 > <https://medium.com/change-your-mind/eckhart-tolle-why-people-are-drawn-to-him-is-a-lesson-in-itself-37feee430325?source=post_page-----37feee430325--------------------------------> > > > > > Ten years ago my sister told me about a German spiritual teacher named > Eckhart Tolle that I had to check out. After watching one of his talks on > Youtube I was hooked. > > I subscribed to his website and have been listening to him regularly ever > since. In fact, for many years I have listened to fifteen minutes of his > talks as preparation for my daily meditation practice. > > Why? Why did Eckhart have such a strong influence on me? And on so many > millions of others around the globe? > > *It’s not only his teachings* > > I submit that it is only partially because of the spiritual concepts he > espouses. Yes, I love his articulation of how and why we are not our > thoughts and as such should not identify with them. And yes, I love his > emphasis on the power humans can gain from accessing and living in the > present moment. > > But his concepts, like most spiritual teachings, are not particularly > original, something he would admit to. They are mostly drawn from Buddhism, > Hinduism and Christianity (he even changed his name from Ulrich to Eckhart > as an homage to the great 14th century Christian mystic, Meister Eckhart). > > The reason Eckhart is so beloved and one of the most influential spiritual > leaders on the planet (along with the Dalai Lama, Pope Francis and Thich > Nhat Hanh) is because of his *presence*. His bearing. His mien. > > *Being present is the key* > > Let me back up. Another of Eckhart’s central teachings is that there is > nothing more valuable we can give to another than being present. > > What does he mean by “being present?” He means interacting with others > from a place of no mind. Of no thought. Experiencing the other in the > moment. Not thinking about what you want to say next or somebody else at > the party you can’t wait to talk to or what you want to eat for dinner > later. Just being fully there. > > Crucially, when we do that, when we are one hundred percent *there*, what > is *not* there is our ego. The ego that judges, compares, criticizes, > gets distracted and does all sorts of other undesirable things. > > *Presence is God* > > And here’s where things get a little wacky and metaphysical, but here > goes. That presence that Eckhart emanates is called many things by many > people. Some call it consciousness. Others call it pure awareness. > > And some call it God. Or the presence of God. > > I’m not saying that I think Eckhart is God. I’m saying that when the mind > and thinking subsides in *anybody*, the resulting space of consciousness > provides a portal for God to shine through. > > The person who captured this best was the great Indian guru Meher Baba who > said: > > *“Man minus mind equals God.”* > > Not many people get to that egoless point Eckhart has arrived at. I know > I’m nowhere near it. But it’s my strong belief that getting closer to it is > the work of our lives. > > *How we get there* > > What work is involved in getting closer to the awakened being that Eckhart > is? Working every day to shed our egos. Through meditation and mindfulness > we chip away every day at quieting our minds and allowing our egos to > dissolve. > > And when we do that we become more present. 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