Pranam
This is a thought-provoking science in modern times but pure Vedic who had
answered long back but we pretend that we do not wish to understand.
Is there a universal time? No. In Vedic scriptures ancient VIDs had
squarely stated that time or KALA is only a subjective matter. Kala does
not move but we move forward so time move forwards IN TIME(!). B G said in
crisp words as in Yoga vasishtam that all are in HIM, but HE is in None.
Though not a fit example, yet while reading this, you are inside your home;
does it mean that the home is inside you? Why I said NOT-FIT, because both
the home and you are Prakrithi, or Maya and all the Maya are in HIM only
and no real can be inside the MAYA.
Then if the matter is only a projection or manifest, as a laser
beam, the manifest is an appearance and that which projected such owned the
projection. The projected can do all things in motion as projected; and the
motion of a macro is the motion of a micro or paramanu of the HIM. Many
Paramanus in many universes all around. The displacements of the paramanu
say for example within a square appears to be moving fast- because the
speed of the observer is too shallow to follow the speed of the
displacements. And the brain is pushed in to think that the displacements
within a periphery is the farthest movements in time which are all
subjective, and subject to the conditions of the seeker, the seen and
shetra. Therefore, the time does not move but the movement of the objects
manifested or unreal appears to the object as change of events taking
place; and the change of events is calculated as time. And the mind always
thinks of the time as an arrow, moving forward only and never backward; as
a an egg in full shape broken, cannot UN-BREAK again; as paste came out of
the tube, cannot re-enter.
The matter in the universe is not moving fast; the eyes of the
observer mentally focussed thought so the displacements as one event now,
became another event then and so on. The nature is behaving as ordained as
in MICRO; so many micros SAHPES INTO MACRO OF THE VISION THE BRAIN CAN SEE
AND NAME. As a stone thrown into the pool of water, creates waves, from the
middle to the edge but the water is same and quantum did not vary but
showed an appearance of the displacements, the mind thought and explained
as that deemed fit. In the example the force started the waves was cantered
and as it was gobbled up by the dark energy into the dark matter so too the
nature, which started the manifest gives the appearances of slower and
faster movements which the eyes think as expansions, so too the, the energy
that caused the expansions mind thought happened as events, would disappear
in darkener into the dark matter.
In other words, as we see a film on the screen, is lead by our
minds ,as actually happening, or as in a dream, so many shots are believed
to have happened, when we wake up, from Swapna to Jakradha, so too the
manifested appears as real matter -Prakrithi-Maya, and disappear into the
dark matter -the content of the dark energy. This revolving phenomenon was
called by our rishis as God’s Play or tiruvilayadal or Leelas etc. IF YOU
SAY THE FILM ON THE SCREEN WAS REAL SO THIS EARTH LIGHT ETC. THE FILM ON
THE SCREEN WERE TO BE ASKED WOULD RESPOND AS ONLY AS REAL. SO TOO WE DO.
In all these plays, energy is there, movements are there,
unidirectional is there (not only light but also an egg or any product
broken and cannot go back to original) and nonchalant yoga is there. In
other words Shakthi and Sivam is there ; 1 and 0 is there where the 1 is
Brahmam and the zero is Shakthi and added to the right value increases and
to the left Brahmam alone existed with the Shakthi inoperative. That is the
principle of the general Relativity as well as the quantum Mechanics. The
cyber programming of the energy displacements enlarging to communications
of different apps is just manifested in nature in 1 and 0 only or . and –
dot and dash.
This was and is explained as Poornamadha Isavasya Upanishad:
h poornamidam poornaat poornamudachyate
Om, That is complete, This is complete, From the completeness comes the
completeness
(Om=sound of creation, holy word; Poornam=Complete, Adah=that;
poornam=complete;*poornamadah*=that is complete; idam=this; *poornamidam*=this
is complete; *poornaat*=from completeness; udachyate=comes, rises;
*poornamudachyate*=comes completeness)
Poornasya poornamaadaaya poornamevaavashishṣyate
If completeness is taken away from completeness, Only completeness remains
(Poorna=complete; asya=from; *Poornasya*=From completeness;
*poornamaadaaya*=remove
completeness; poornam=complete, eva=only; vashishyate=remains;
*poornamevaavashishṣyate*=Only completeness remains)
Om shaantih shaantih shaantih
Om, Peace peace peace
(*Om*=sound of creation, holy word; *shaantih*=Peace)
Micro if taken out and goes away or the micro is added in and enters
or modifies or changes still is the whole. The matter can neither be
created nor be destroyed. Principles of thermodynamics. Or Entropy
variations determine the events occurring in the linear process of science.
Physics or the nature or the modern science said that the atom structures
of one object if broken, again takes the shapes of different broken parts
which cannot again combine to the original order so un-break cannot occur;
even in surgery, even if one is replaced, the original is lost. So it is
not only light but everything except matter. Even that matter when
disintegrated in one structure cannot exist in the same shape but may have
a different structure but the name is matter. Rebirth is that in our Vedic
scriptures. It is said that you are reborn but that "you" is a misnomer in
the sense the owned soul is reborn in a different shirt wearing on the
different body where the mind with the karma sets in.
Boltzmann did this who was hooted for the discovery but
committed suicide; but after 3 decades the science accepted this.
If read slowly one may understand that the science we read is
not new but we were taught by the neighbors but it was forgotten to be
taught by our own home, K Rajaram IRS 1421
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 21:25, Sithamalli Balasubramanian <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there anything like universal Time? Light is the only Unidirectional
> entity in the Universe. Light therefore is a measure of Time. There can be
> infinite measures of Time.
> Rama's cynicism is not warranted. There is a creative element in life
> called evolution.
> IIravati Karve of Deccan College (long ago ) wrote a book Yugantar
> analysing Mahabharata as a commentary on human fate. She concluded that
> "failure is the rule in life".I feel she also ignored the evolutionary part
> of life.
> I consider that Arvind Mafatlal's life was similar to that of Yudishtira-
> a mixture of great success and equal failure.
> So-called 'failure' is only a measure of the difference between
> expectation or ambition and reality.
> Skb.
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 16:47, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Pranam
>>
>> TIME FROM YOGA VASISHTAM
>>
>> 1 श्रीराम उवाच अत्रैव दुर्विलासानां चूडमणिरिहापरः ।
>> करोत्यत्तीति लोकेऽस्मिन्दैवं कालश्च कथ्यते ॥ १ ॥ YV 1.25 1
>>
>> *śrīrāma uvāca atraiva durvilāsānāṃ cūḍamaṇirihāparaḥ* |
>> *karotyattīti loke'smindaivaṃ kālaśca kathyate* || 1 ||
>>
>> Time stands the foremost of all deceitful players in this world. He acts
>> the double parts of creation and destruction, and of action and fate.
>>
>> 2 क्रियामात्रादृते यस्य स्वपरिस्पन्दरूपिणः ।
>> नान्यदालक्ष्यते रूपं न कर्म न समीहितम् ॥ २ ॥
>>
>> *kriyāmātrādṛte yasya svaparispandarūpiṇaḥ* |
>> *nānyadālakṣyate rūpaṃ na karma na samīhitam* || 2 ||
>>
>> Time has no other character but those of action and motion by which his
>> existence is known to us, and which bind all beings.
>>
>> 3 यदिदं दृश्यते किंचिज्जगदाभोगि मण्डलम् ।
>> तत्तस्य नर्तनागारमिहासावतिनृत्यति ॥ ४ ॥
>>
>> *yadidaṃ dṛśyate kiṃcijjagadābhogi maṇḍalam* |
>> *tattasya nartanāgāramihāsāvatinṛtyati* || 4 ||
>>
>> This wide world is the stage wherein the giddy mob dance about.
>>
>> {kr Did Shakespeare said from here or was it coincidental}
>>
>> 4 भूयः करोति भुवनानि वनान्तराणि लोकान्तराणि जनजालककल्पनां च ।
>> आचारचारुकलनामचलां चलां च पङ्काद्यथार्भकजनो रचनामखिन्नः ॥ ३२ ॥
>>
>> *bhūyaḥ karoti bhuvanāni vanāntarāṇi lokāntarāṇi janajālakakalpanāṃ ca* |
>> *ācāracārukalanāmacalāṃ calāṃ ca paṅkādyathārbhakajano racanāmakhinnaḥ* ||
>> 32 ||
>>
>> Time repeatedly creates the worlds and their woods, with the different
>> abodes and localities teeming with population. He forms the moveable and
>> immovable substances, establishes customs and again dissolves them, as boys
>> make their dolls of clay and break them soon afterwards.
>>
>> 5 इहापि विद्यते येषां पेलवा सुखभावना ।
>> आखुस्तन्तुमिवाशेषं कालस्तामपि कृन्तति ॥ ३ ॥1 23 3
>>
>> *ihāpi vidyate yeṣāṃ pelavā sukhabhāvanā* |
>> *ākhustantumivāśeṣaṃ kālastāmapi kṛntati* || 3 ||
>>
>> Time is a rat that cuts off the threads of all thoughts (prospects),
>> which men may entertain here about the contemptible pleasures of this world.
>>
>> 6 न तदस्तीह यदयं कालः सकलघस्मरः ।
>> ग्रसते तज्जगज्जातं प्रोत्थाब्धिमिव वाडवः ॥ ४ ॥ 1 23 6
>>
>> *na tadastīha yadayaṃ kālaḥ sakalaghasmaraḥ* |
>> *grasate tajjagajjātaṃ protthābdhimiva vāḍavaḥ* || 4 ||
>>
>> There is nothing in this world which the all-devouring time will spare.
>> He devours all things as the submarine fire consumes the over-flowing sea.
>>
>> 7 दुर्विलासविलासिन्या चेष्टया कष्टषुष्टया ।
>> द्रव्यैकरूपकृद्रूपं जनमावर्तयन्स्थितः ॥ १८ ॥
>>
>> *durvilāsavilāsinyā ceṣṭayā kaṣṭaṣuṣṭayā* |
>> *dravyaikarūpakṛdrūpaṃ janamāvartayansthitaḥ* || 18 ||
>>
>> Time is a whirlpool to men; and being accompanied with desire his
>> insatiable and ungovernable mistress and delighting in illicit enjoyments,
>> he makes them do and undo the same thing over and over again.
>>
>> 8 केवलं जगदारम्भलीलया घनहेलया ।
>> पालयत्यात्मनात्मानमनहंकारमाततम् ॥ ३३ ॥
>>
>> *kevalaṃ jagadārambhalīlayā ghanahelayā* |
>> *pālayatyātmanātmānamanahaṃkāramātatam* || 33 ||
>>
>> Time is never proud to think, that it is he who without the least sense
>> of pain and labor, brings this world into play and makes it to exist.
>>
>> KR IRS 31321
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 19:24, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Change as Time
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing as the uniform and continuous flow of time? Is the
>>> second minute same and identical as the first minute? Is the third minute
>>> same as the first and second minutes, on and on, the continuous uniform
>>> flow?
>>>
>>> But when we say that the Universe is continuously changing, does it not
>>> mean that the second minute is different from the first minute and that the
>>> third minute is different from all the previous minutes? Change means going
>>> into the different. Is the Universe the flow of continuous differences?
>>> Does the Universe have a standardized method of metamorphosis, the
>>> standardized time transformation?
>>>
>>> When we define, can that definition hold well continuously? When change
>>> is the rule, is not defining incorrect?
>>>
>>> Now what shall be the method of education, ask the kid to
>>> breathe,smell,sense,perceive,understand,rapture,sing,dance etc,or force the
>>> child to sit aloof from nature and mug and memorize the lessons? Into which
>>> path are we putting the kid into?
>>>
>>> Flow as a part of the Universe or separate from nature to study and
>>> observe nature? Are we imprisoning ourselves in islands of paralyzed time,
>>> in the name of education?
>>>
>>> If we want to insist that time means continuous and uniform flow only,
>>> then what are the components that stretch continuously and infinitely? It
>>> can only be a stretching field and not the 3D things. If we want the
>>> components to be 3D things, then what is between two 3d things?
>>>
>>> Is it not sensible to keep the kid close to nature and not arrest
>>> him/her in very doubtful lessons?
>>>
>>> The net glaring and staring result like a big wart on the face, is that
>>> we are robbing our kids of clean water, land and air, in the name of
>>> education, science, progress etc.Are the School uniforms any different from
>>> the uniforms of prisoners?
>>>
>>> We are changing the very components of time from the lively natural
>>> emanations; to the dead things created by factories. And we want our kids
>>> become suitable in those factories for employment.
>>>
>>> YM
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