Pranam 1 One Einstein travel diary I thought many would come forward to write on but disappointed; freedom of speech includes writing till the walking stick does not touch the other body. Such controversial topics should have been verified before writing. Youngsters will write any media count for the sake of it but elders shall check those events of 1922-23. I do not wish to reproduce the lines of GUARDIAN . The racist arguments have nothing to do with India. Such erroneous copy and paste if avoided would see Mr G high. 2 How Anusha Varigonda thinks G sinks with things not to be done. Why only those 10 which have focused on habits and the profession author were in. 8 Turkey is the latest name after the Mayflower ship entered the USA from England as the name of the Birds; Anatolia is connected to the history of the Greeks, Persians and Roman and Jews; and in cross war was Constantinople and Byzantium. Anatolia is as good as Kumarikandam and sea devouring lands are claimed. In Mahabharata war Bharatha varsha had the warriors as Meelecha from this place. Grreks Indian-paraseeka and God worshipping multitribes finally became a country of Islam. So ancient sculptures finding is due to the non-inclination of the ruling according to the faith they follow. 9 8 hours of sleep is only for young people. Elders may not sleep more than 6 hours. Question of sleep for 8 or 6 hrs does not matter but the REM of 3 hours is amust which alone is sleep. Bonus on Einstein who never visited India: When Einstein Met Tagore: A Remarkable Meeting of Minds on the Edge of Science and Spirituality Collision and convergence in Truth and Beauty. *BY MARIA POPOVA*
On July 14, 1930, *Albert Einstein* welcomed into his home on the outskirts of Berlin the Indian philosopher, musician, and Nobel laureate *Rabindranath Tagore*. The two proceeded to have one of the most stimulating, intellectually riveting conversations in history. The following excerpt from one of Einstein and Tagore’s conversations in a masterful meditation on the most fundamental questions of human existence. EINSTEIN: Do you believe in the Divine as isolated from the world? TAGORE: Not isolated. The infinite personality of Man comprehends the Universe. There cannot be anything that cannot be subsumed by the human personality, and this proves that the Truth of the Universe is human Truth. I have taken a scientific fact to explain this — Matter is composed of protons and electrons, with gaps between them; but matter may seem to be solid. Similarly, humanity is composed of individuals, yet they have their interconnection of human relationship, which gives living unity to man’s world. The entire universe is linked up with us in a similar manner, it is a human universe. I have pursued this thought through art, literature and the religious consciousness of man. EINSTEIN: There are two different conceptions about the nature of the universe: (1) The world as a unity dependent on humanity. (2) The world as a reality independent of the human factor. TAGORE: When our universe is in harmony with Man, the eternal, we know it as Truth, we feel it as beauty. EINSTEIN: This is the purely human conception of the universe. TAGORE: There can be no other conception. This world is a human world — the scientific view of it is also that of the scientific man. There is some standard of reason and enjoyment which gives it Truth, the standard of the Eternal Man whose experiences are through our experiences. EINSTEIN: This is a realization of the human entity. TAGORE: Yes, one eternal entity. We have to realize it through our emotions and activities. We realized the Supreme Man who has no individual limitations through our limitations. Science is concerned with that which is not confined to individuals; it is the impersonal human world of Truths. Religion realizes these Truths and links them up with our deeper needs; our individual consciousness of Truth gains universal significance. Religion applies values to Truth, and we know this Truth as good through our own harmony with it. EINSTEIN: Truth, then, or Beauty is not independent of Man? TAGORE: No. EINSTEIN: If there would be no human beings any more, the Apollo of Belvedere would no longer be beautiful. TAGORE: No. EINSTEIN: I agree with regard to this conception of Beauty, but not with regard to Truth. TAGORE: Why not? Truth is realized through man. EINSTEIN: I cannot prove that my conception is right, but that is my religion. TAGORE: Beauty is in the ideal of perfect harmony which is in the Universal Being; Truth the perfect comprehension of the Universal Mind. We individuals approach it through our own mistakes and blunders, through our accumulated experiences, through our illumined consciousness — how, otherwise, can we know Truth? EINSTEIN: I cannot prove scientifically that Truth must be conceived as a Truth that is valid independent of humanity; but I believe it firmly. I believe, for instance, that the Pythagorean theorem in geometry states something that is approximately true, independent of the existence of man. Anyway, if there is a reality independent of man, there is also a Truth relative to this reality; and in the same way the negation of the first engenders a negation of the existence of the latter. TAGORE: Truth, which is one with the Universal Being, must essentially be human, otherwise whatever we individuals realize as true can never be called truth – at least the Truth which is described as scientific and which only can be reached through the process of logic, in other words, by an organ of thoughts which is human. According to Indian Philosophy there is Brahman, the absolute Truth, which cannot be conceived by the isolation of the individual mind or described by words but can only be realized by completely merging the individual in its infinity. But such a Truth cannot belong to Science. The nature of Truth which we are discussing is an appearance – that is to say, what appears to be true to the human mind and therefore is human, and may be called *maya* or illusion. EINSTEIN: So according to your conception, which may be the Indian conception, it is not the illusion of the individual, but of humanity as a whole. TAGORE: The species also belongs to a unity, to humanity. Therefore the entire human mind realizes Truth; the Indian or the European mind meet in a common realization. EINSTEIN: The word species is used in German for all human beings, as a matter of fact, even the apes and the frogs would belong to it. TAGORE: In science we go through the discipline of eliminating the personal limitations of our individual minds and thus reach that comprehension of Truth which is in the mind of the Universal Man. EINSTEIN: The problem begins whether Truth is independent of our consciousness. TAGORE: What we call truth lies in the rational harmony between the subjective and objective aspects of reality, both of which belong to the super-personal man. EINSTEIN: Even in our everyday life we feel compelled to ascribe a reality independent of man to the objects we use. We do this to connect the experiences of our senses in a reasonable way. For instance, if nobody is in this house, yet that table remains where it is. TAGORE: Yes, it remains outside the individual mind, but not the universal mind. The table which I perceive is perceptible by the same kind of consciousness which I possess. EINSTEIN: If nobody would be in the house the table would exist all the same — but this is already illegitimate from your point of view — because we cannot explain what it means that the table is there, independently of us. Our natural point of view in regard to the existence of truth apart from humanity cannot be explained or proved, but it is a belief which nobody can lack — no primitive beings even. We attribute to Truth a super-human objectivity; it is indispensable for us, this reality which is independent of our existence and our experience and our mind — though we cannot say what it means. TAGORE: Science has proved that the table as a solid object is an appearance and therefore that which the human mind perceives as a table would not exist if that mind were naught. At the same time it must be admitted that the fact, that the ultimate physical reality is nothing but a multitude of separate revolving centres of electric force, also belongs to the human mind. In the apprehension of Truth there is an eternal conflict between the universal human mind and the same mind confined in the individual. The perpetual process of reconciliation is being carried on in our science, philosophy, in our ethics. In any case, if there be any Truth absolutely unrelated to humanity then for us it is absolutely non-existing. It is not difficult to imagine a mind to which the sequence of things happens not in space but only in time like the sequence of notes in music. For such a mind such conception of reality is akin to the musical reality in which Pythagorean geometry can have no meaning. There is the reality of paper, infinitely different from the reality of literature. For the kind of mind possessed by the moth which eats that paper literature is absolutely non-existent, yet for Man’s mind literature has a greater value of Truth than the paper itself. In a similar manner if there be some Truth which has no sensuous or rational relation to the human mind, it will ever remain as nothing so long as we remain human beings. EINSTEIN: Then I am more religious than you are! TAGORE: My religion is in the reconciliation of the Super-personal Man, the universal human spirit, in my own individual being. KR IRS 10521 On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 20:17, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > *CULTURAL QA 05-2021-09* > > *Being a compilation there may be errors* > > Q1 How is Albert Einstein about India? > > A1 Saurabh Bansal November 20 *Studied at Sophia Secondary > School, Khetrinagar > > As we all know that Albert Einstein was a great scientist and it really > matters that how he think about India. > > Einstein once travelled in many countries of Asia. He travelled china, > japan, and Sri Lanka also. *In Sri Lanka he met some Indian people and > made his contemplations for India. He actually never travelled through > India.* > > He thought that Indians were ‘biologically inferior' and were hampered by > the subcontinent’s climate that 'prevented them from thinking backward or > forward by more than a quarter of an hour. > > *One other thing was that he respect Mahatama Gandhi a lot*. He was also > against the violence that had occurred during first and second world war > and everyone knows that Gandhiji was a picture of non-violence. *He want > to met Mahatama Gandhi but he couldn't do so because he never travelled to > India and Gandhiji never went to USA*. He later work with Satyendra Nath > Bose on bose-Einstein condensate. > > We cannot judge a great scientist like Einstein by his only statement that > he said Indians biologically inferior. Yes this according to me is wrong > that he judge Indian by just meeting a few Indians in Sri Lanka. But > whatever the thing is he worked with Indians and he was inspired by some of > Indians like gandhiji. He also have good thoughts about our ancient texts. > > And last but not the least- > > We owe a lot to Indians who taught us how to count, without which no > worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.- Albert Einstein > > > > Q2 Can you write a list of 10 things you'll never do again? > > A2 Anusha Varigonda 1m ago Worked for a Non-profit organisation > > *Trust anyone blindly and making friends right away..Been there, learnt a > great lesson.* > > Eating without hunger and eating when bored. One of the major enemies to > our health! > > Driving with over-confidence and exceeding speed limit beyond which I can > control. > > *Accepting and doing everything our superiors order. Sometimes learning to > say no is important.* > > Giving free advice to people who don't value our words..just waste of > energy! > > Being over generous and over empathetic. This can hurt us sometimes. > > Being freely available for people. You'll always be taken for granted. > > Sharing my emotions to people who don't care or understand. Ultimately > you'll be ridiculed. > > *Showing my anger on innocents who is not the reason for my outburst. It > is very wrong to hurt others.* > > Going late for railway station expecting late arrival of train. These days > train timings are unpredictable just like covid cases. > > > > Q3 What is the best wild animal you've ever seen? > > A3 James Bergen 21m ago > > The Philippine eagle. Largest eagle in the world. I have gone so far as > to climb a mountain. Just so I could take photos from above them. Watched > them get fish from the river, a money every now & then, & small children > when they can find them. Or so they say. On the children. > > > > Q4 What year was the electric lamp bulb invented? > > A4 Dave Gander 25m ago Domestic Electrician (2010–present) > > Firstly it is a lamp. A bulb, if correctly placed in a growing compound > will result in a flower. *Very pretty but of little use to help you see > in the dark.* > > > > Secondly there is no precise date. *Lamps were demonstrated by Volta in > Italy and London around 1800.* In the following years Davey (more famous > for the miners safety lamp) Swann and others all brought various designs to > the table. It wasn’t until almost the end of the century that *Edison > mastered the art of a commercially viable production process around 1880.* > > Therefore take your pick, but if you select Edison (as many do) be sure to > add a caveat about it being the first commercially successful lamp (many > don’t). > > *My note- I had a Divisional engineer at Salem who was a graduate in > physics. He was pride he was* better than his colleagues and technical . > > Someone who had an engineering degree commented- *You are not an > engineer*. > > He retarded and told all of us- Whether Thomas Alwa Edison was an engineer > who invented electric bulbs. > > > > Q5 In the 19th century Britain, why were most of the prime > ministers not commoners but lords? > > A5 Jackie Pearcey 44m ago Works at Liberal Democratic > Politicians (USA politics) > > The Great Reform Acts which expanded the franchise meant that the balance > of power started to be more vested in the Commons than the Lords, as the > Commons was increasingly seen to represent the will of the people. > > *As the Prime Minister is the person who could command the support of the > majority of the* Commons it became increasingly important *that that > person was an MP not a Lord.* Before the first of the Great Reform Acts, > Lord could command quite a few MPs by being able to guarantee their > election in a rotten borough. > > > > Q6 Why does perfume last long? > > A6 Ayush Srivastavap, B.sc hons. Teaching & Learning, University > of Delhi (2020) Answered 2h ago > > Perfumes are made up of aldehydes and ketones.And they last longer due to > the adhesive nature of particles > > > > Q7 What are the best ways to serve the people or society in India? > > A7 Ch. Lavanya May 4 Lives in India > > My husband's office boy comes once in a while to our house on Sundays to > earn little extra income by helping us in cleaning the house. > > He is from a small village. Few years back he came to city in search of > work and settled down. > > This pandemic has struck his income a lot. He cannot go to village and nor > can stay here. > > He is getting half salary and in that he has to manage morning breakfast, > afternoon curries and night dinner. > > On the whole he and his roommates are left with nothing almost. Still > struggling to live. > > So we call him on sundays whenever possible and give him and his friend > lunch and some amount of money. > > “Will you take this bag of rice?” I asked him one day hesitatingly. > > “Why not Madam, it will be sufficient for 15 days for us…” he replied > happily. > > “Why 15 days? Only you two are there…I think it will last for a month” > > He laughed and said “ There are total five members in our room Madam, all > are like us with less salary…only one person earns enough but spends on > liquor..” > > I felt sorry for them.So whichever way possible we are lending our hand to > those people. > > > > Q8 How are there still so many undiscovered antiquities and > ancient sites in countries like Turkey even though they have been inhabited > for thousands of years? > > A8 Vasu Pandian 35m ago Former Retired Government Employees at > Government (executive dept.) (1982–2019) > > *The sites are too many. Under staffed/under budgeted for effective > control of excavated sites and to excavate new sites.* > > The remains are very rich as such looted too:— The modern state of > Turkey is one of the most archeologically and culturally rich places in the > world; scholars have published on over a hundred thousand sites across the > country (Özdoğan 2013). > > It boasts 15 sites of cultural importance on UNESCO’s World Heritage list, > and has 60 additional sites under consideration. Despite the > identification of and reporting on thousands of sites, only about 11,000 > are officially registered with the Turkish government. Registration is > critical to the preservation and protection of sites; without it, they can > be destroyed during new building projects and land development. > > The struggle to protect sites from modern building and development is the > result of limited resources and personnel. With thousands of sites awaiting > the attention of the government, employees of the Ministry of Culture and > Tourism are fighting a never-ending battle. In addition to examining new > sites and excavations, they must also maintain officially registered sites > which are threatened by an explosion of tourism. Developing heritage > management plans for these sites is critical, but time consuming as well. > > While many of Turkey’s own antiquities have been and continue to be looted > today, it has become a highway for illicit antiquities coming from its > turbulent neighbors, Syria and Iraq. > > What is at stake for Turkey? > > Turkey, located within the region of Anatolia, has been home to many > diverse modern, historical, and ancient cultures, and its history captures > the breadth of the modern human experience. > > Caves and western coastal sites dating to the Paleolithic (c. > 400,000–14,000 B.C.E.) and Mesolithic (c. 14,000–10,000 B.C.E.) periods > contain evidence for the earliest human presence in Anatolia. > > The Neolithic period (10,000–5,000 B.C.E.) is well represented and is > known internationally for several important sites. Catalhöyuk, in southern > Turkey, is the largest and best preserved Neolithic site. Reaching its peak > around 7,000 B.C.E., the site has evidence of plant and animal > domestication and large permanent settlements. At the site of Göbeklitepe, > in the southeast, archeologists uncovered a mountain-top sanctuary dating > to around 9,000 B.C.E., making it the oldest identified religious structure > in the world. > > Across Turkey during the Chalcolithic (5,000–3,000 B.C.E.) and Bronze > (3,000–1200 B.C.E.) Ages there is abundant evidence for the early > development of metal processing, trade, and production. Increasing economic > and social complexity led to a rise in urbanism and the development of > massive centers, such as Hattusha, the Hittite capital. On the western > coast, inhabitants during this time came into greater contact with other > Mediterranean cultures, such as the Minoans of Crete and the Greeks. One of > the most famous of these settlements is ancient Troy, which was famously > under siege by the Greeks in Homer’s Iliad and later looted by Heinrich > Schliemann’s nineteenth-century explorations of the site. > > In later historic periods, many diverse cultures inhabited Anatolia and > later the political state of Turkey influencing its landscape and the > history of the states around it. Numerous societies, including the > Urartians, Phrygians, Lydians, Persians, and Lycians, established or > conquered other kingdoms in Anatolia and are known through both > archaeological and textual sources. With the conquest of Persia by > Alexander the Great, Anatolia came under Greek influence ushering in the > Hellenistic Period (4th–1st century B.C.E.). Later the Roman Empire (1st > century B.C.E.–4th century C.E.) absorbed Anatolia, marking another > cultural transformation and historic events that would lead to the founding > of the Byzantine Empire (395–1453 C.E.) based in Constantinople, modern > Istanbul. Medieval and modern successors to this rich history of Anatolia > include various Turkomen tribes, the Seljuk Turks, the Ahlatshahs and > Artuquids, and eventually the Ottoman Empire. (Thanks to Khan academy.org > ). > > > > Q9 Do you sleep 8 hours every night? > > A9 Rizwandeen M May 2B,sc from Jamal Mohamed College (Graduated > 2012) > > *Definitely, I sleep 8 hours every night. This 8 hours sleep is good for > health.* We have to start sleep when we lye down our bed. We do not use > Smartphones and Laptops. Do not watch television before start your sleep.If > we do not sleep 8 hours in any day for reason travel, movie, and party. It > does not matter, but we don’t follow these habits our regular life. > Adequate sleep will bring fulfilment to our lives > > *All the above QA are based on Quora digest on 08-05 - 2021. Quora answers > need not be 100% correct answers * > > *Compiled and posted by R. Gopala krishnan on 9-5- 2021* > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/62507670.1535108.1620571618355%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/62507670.1535108.1620571618355%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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