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1 Other versions of Kaviri @ Kaveri KAVERI PURANA VERSION AND TAMIL
VERSION
1 The Kaveri Purana or Kaveri Mahatmya describes the sacred river from its
source to its union with the sea and enumerates the holy bathing places and
the temples on its banks. The Kaveri Purana seeks to glorify the holy
river, whose divine origin, its intimate relationship with the rishi
Agastya (the settler of the Vindhya Mountain range, the great son of both
Mitra and Varuna), and its course through the eastern country into the sea
being directed in obedience to the counsel of Agastya, all conspire to give
it a character of surpassing sanctity. The account of Kaveri’s mythological
origin begins with the seizure by the Asuras, of the amrita or nectar of
immortality produced at the churning of the ocean, which spread
consternation and despair among the hosts of the gods. They invoked Vishnu,
from whom emanated the enchanting Mohini, while Lakshmi at the same time
sent forth Lopamudre (a form of Parvati). Mohini, charming the Asuras by
her transcendent beauty, rescued the drink of immortality and restored it
to gods. After this she retired to Brahmagiri, the hill at the source of
the river Kaveri, and was changed into a rocky cave. Lopamudre was given to
Brahma, who brought her up as his daughter. *Kavera muni,* a devout
follower of Brahma, retires to Brahmagiri, there to give himself wholly to
meditation on Brahma. He asks Brahma for children. *Brahma gives him
Lopamudre for a daughter, this is when she obtained the name Kaveri.* In
order to procure beatitude for her new father, she resolves on becoming a
river, pouring out blessings on the earth, and all the merits arising from
this course of devoted goodness are to be appropriated to Kavera muni. For
this purpose she resorts to one of the heights ot Brahmagiri, and invokes
Brahma to give her the privilege, when turned into a river, of absolving
all people bathing in the holy waters from every sin they may have
committed. Brahma, of course grants this blessing to his daughter While
Kaveri is still absorbed in her devotions, the great rishi Agastya espies
her, and asks her to become his wife. Though longing after the fulfilment
of her vow, she consents to live with Agastya, under the condition,
however, that she shall be at liberty to forsake him whenever she is left
alone. One day Agastya went to bathe in the river Kanake, leaving Kaveri
near his own holy tank, guarded by his disciples. Thus deserted by Agastya
against his promise, she plunged into the holy tank, and flowed forth from
it a beautiful river. The disciples tried to stay her course. She went
underground. At Bhaganda kshetra she appeared again and flowed on towards
Valamburi. When Agastya, on his return, saw what had happened, he ran after
Kaveri, begged her pardon, and entreated her to return and to remain with
him. Unwilling to change her mind, yet loathing to grieve Agastya, Kaveri
divided herself, one half flowing off as a river, the other half staying
with the rishi. Agastya then explained to the river half which road to take
to the eastern sea, enumerating all the holy places lying in the way of the
new stream. {Source: Mysore and Coorg, Vol. III by Lewis Rice}.
1A Tamil Silappadikaram says that KA means a Garden and VIRI means
spread, viz Gardens on both sides of the river expanding the running paths
is Kaviri @ Kaveri.
2 Incidentally a marriage mantra of Rg vedam is cited which is true;
but the significance is lost as the essence of the chap 10 85 verses 1 to
47 is lost which would give the brightest focus on our scientific nature
of the Rishis is reciting a verse with the plentiful of meaning adopting an
allegory.
In these verses (incidentally used by our purohit in all our
weddings a couple verses only) The movement of the SUN and the MOON and
EARTH and the Ashwini health doctors of GODs are all combined looking at
the space. SUN is the bride; Moon is the bride groom; Aswini wives of the
Moon come to earth The Father (PUSHAN) { sun is also denoted as PUSHAN);
(KoREA has as capital PUSAN} { PUSAN is also the name of research on
finding the truth odf Big bang} is met by Ashwin asking the hands of the
bride SUN to be wedded to the Moon. Then the sky dances narrated in a sway
of the words used in these 47 verses the planetray movement; therefore
these became the wedding mantra too.
The aśvins, or divine twins, arrive at the home of Sūryā ,as
representatives of the moon, with a proposal from him. Pūṣan, seemingly the
sun, that is, the father of the prospective bride, as well as others, agree
to this proposal -
*Aśvins, when you came on your three-wheeler to ask for the hand of Sūrya
in marriage, Then all the gods gave you consent; the Sun, a son, chose you
to be fathers.*
*[Ṛg Veda 10.85:14;]*
Based on such assent, Sūryā herself is sent to her new home with Soma, the
moon. She is accompanied in this journey by her two female friends -
*Raibhī was the bridesmaid; Nārāśaṃsī was her maidservant*
*[Ṛg Veda 10.85:6ab; ]*
They make the journey in a cosmic chariot of highly symbolic imagery, which
develops the analogy between the movements of heavenly bodies and of human
rituals and customs -
*Mind was her vehicle; the heaven was her covering; The two bright ones
were the oxen, when Sūryā went to her [new] home Those two oxen moved
calmly, harnessed by the Ṛg and Sāma [verses]. Hearing [the Veda] was your
two wheels; your path in heaven was leading you forward*
*[Ṛg Veda 10.85:10–11; ]*
Sūryā now arrives at the house and there is a touching picture of the
comfortable domesticity of the Vedic household -
*Go to [your new] home, to be the lady of the house; Speak out with
authority at the vidatha [gathering]; Prosper here, loved [and] with
children; In your home, watch over the household; Join yourself with this
husband; You will address the vidatha even when you are old*
*[Ṛg Veda 10.85:26cd-27;]*
Following this, the marriage is consummated, during which the virginity of
the bride is established, which seemingly confirms the validity of the
marriage, and gifts are given to Brahmins. The verse ends with an
exhortation to the bride to be gentle towards her husband, and a request
for a blessing by the happy couple.
*Without evil eye, without striking [your] husband, be kind to the cattle,
With positive mindset and positive energy, Giving birth to heroes, loving
the gods, gentle, Be good to the two-footed and to the four-footed.*
*May all the gods, and also the waters, put together our two hearts. May
Mātariśvan, Dhātṛ, and Deṣṭrī support the two of us.*
*[Ṛg Veda 10.85:44,47;]*
सत्येनोत्तभिता भूमिः सूर्येणोत्तभिता दयौः |
रतेनादित्यास्तिष्ठन्ति दिवि सोमो अधि शरितः || सोमेनादित्या बलिनः सोमेन
पर्थिवी मही |
अथोनक्षत्राणामेषामुपस्थे सोम आहितः ||
सोमो वधूयुरभवदश्विनास्तामुभा वरा |
पूषा तवेतो नयतु हस्तग्र्ह्याश्विना तवा पर वहतांरथेन | गर्हान गछ गर्हपत्नी
यथासो वशिनी तवंविदथमा वदासि ||
These extracted lines in these 47 verses show the sun moon and Pushan and
so many.
This is highlighted in Isopanishad as under:
पूषा तवेतो नयतु हस्तग्र्ह्याश्विना तवा पर वहतांरथेन | गर्हान गछ गर्हपत्नी
यथासो वशिनी तवंविदथमा वदासि ||
The Ashwini twins are the physicians of the Gods. They are said to have
sprung from the sea-of-milk in Vaikunta, when it was churned by the Devas
and Asuras. Some time after this, they earned the displeasure of Indra, who
forbade them from partaking Havis, the sacrificial oblations.
In the Rig Veda, the are prominently featured, and are said to be the sons
of Saranyu (the daughter of Tvashta) and Vivasvant. They are also said to
be the sons of heaven (Dyaus). Pusan is said to be their son. According to
the wedding hymn [R.V.10.85], they are the husbands of Surya, the daughter
of the sun. They are fond of honey, and their car is honey-hued and
honey-bearing. Their car is sun-like and is golden. It is swifter than
thought and was fashioned by the three divine artificers, the Rbhus. It is
either drawn by horses or by winged steeds or by buffaloes, or by a
Rishabha (ox). They are associated with Usha (dawn), and are said to follow
her in their car. Reference is also often made to their great speed.
They are also the fathers of the Pandava twins, Nakula and Sahadeva, whom
they begat on Madri, King Pandu's wife. Since the Ashwinis are associated
with horses, the Pandava twins were excellent horsemen.
And thus rishis evolved Ashwin as the messengers of the prosperity
in the fine rotations of the earth, Sun, and the Moon is such a manner it
is prosperous to the human beings.
And the co-relations can be seen from another shiva purana and
Upanishads texts as under relevant of the descriptions of the Rgvedam
The combined ereading would enhance the value of the Rigvedam K R IRS 71021
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 08:18, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:
> QUES ANSW D1VINE 16
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> Q1 How did the river kaveri got the name so?
>
> A1 The kaveri river is called so - means she who was spread by a crow.
>
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>
> Q2 What was the reason for Srikrishna marry 16100 women?
>
> A2 Narakasura, described as a son of Bhumidevi, was a very wicked Asura
> who terrorised the whole earth He conquered many kings and carried away
> 16,100 young women from their families and kept them in captivity
>
> *After killing Mura, Krishna killed Narakasura* also and released all the
> women. He then married all of them.
>
> Q3 Why did the asuras succumbed to the charms of Mohini and merely looked
> on with out asking for the nectar?
>
> A3 A foul play on Asuras by the lord was the reason.
>
> *When the intoxicating liquor Varuni came up , the Lord permitted the
> Asuras to take for themselves*. The Asuras, who were intoxicated with the
> liquor Varuni, became infatuated with Mohini and requested her to
> distribute the nectar.
>
> Mohini asked the Devas and the Asuras to sit in separate rows and
> distributed all the nectar to the Devas, while the Asuras, who had
> succumbed to her charms, merely looked on.
>
> When the Asuras realised that they had been fooled by Mohini, *they
> attacked the Devas, but with the help of the Lord the Devas were able to
> vanquish them.*
>
> Q4 How do the life after death will be?
>
> A4 According to Sage Vasishtha in the Yoga-Vasishtha a human can after
> death be defined to belong to one of six different levels, from the
> greatly sinful to the greatly virtuos.
>
> Depending on the level, the life after death will differ.
>
> Q5 What is death according to sage vasishtha?
>
> A5 Vasishtha says in the Yoga-Vasishtha: When on account of the diseases
> of the body its *Nadis lose their vigour and thus become unable to expand
> and contract* in order to exhale or inhale air, the body loses its
> harmony and becomes restless.
>
> * The inhaled air does not then properly come out, nor does the exhaled
> air re-enter the body. So respiration stops. Respiration stopping, the
> creature becomes senseless and dead. All the desires and ideas of the
> individual are then withdrawn within himself*
>
> Death perhaps is the only certainty in this world. Yet, the fear of death
> stalks most people Death is an enigma. It is impossible to define life
> without death.
>
> Up to its very last link, life is a bio-chemical chain reaction. Once life
> is launched, like a bullet it must reach its final destination, which is
> death. It is very difficult to find out the real signs of death.
>
> Stoppage of the heart-beat, stoppage of the pulse or breathing are not the
> actual signs of death. Stoppage of the heartbeats, pulse and respiration,
> cadaveric rigidity of the limbs, clammy sweat on the body, absence of
> warmth of the body, are the popular signs of death.
>
> Death is the most common phenomenon in nature and yet the least understood
> fact.
>
> It is one of the most difficult problems of philosophy, because there is
> no direct evidence usually available as to what really happens in and after
> death.
>
> Q6 What is the beginning of life?
>
> A6 The mother, the father and the soul together create a new body for the
> soul. At the moment of conception, the soul connects with and is
> irrevocably bound to the embryo. As soon as the egg is fertilized, the
> process of human life begins.
>
> It is during the mid-term of pregnancy that the full humanness of the
> fetus is achieved and the soul fully inhabits the new body, a stage which
> is acknowledged when the child begins to move and kick within the mother's
> womb. *(Tirumantiram, 460: "There in the pregnant womb, the soul lay in
> primordial quiescence [turiya] state. From that state, Maya [or Prakriti]
> and Her tribe aroused it and conferred consciousness and maya's evolutes
> eight- desires and the rest. Thus say scriptures holy and true.") *
>
> Q7 Who were the woman maharishis -*Sooriya Savithri*and Oorvashi?
>
>
>
> A7Apsaras Sooriya Savithri was the daughter of God Surya.
>
>
>
> *The Rigs in the Suktham that describe her wedding can be heard being
> chanted even now at the present-day weddings.*
>
>
>
> The two Rigs that are often and primarily chanted are as follows:
>
>
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> Sumangaleeriyam Vadhu
>
> Rimamsamedha Paschyatha |
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> Sowbaghya Masyai Thathvaaya
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> Aadhaastham Viparedhana ||
>
>
>
> Meaning: One can see the indications of prosperity in the bride and all of
> you watch her keenly. Bless her for a prosperous life and return to your
> homes. (Rig Veda-X, 85.33)
>
>
>
> Imam Thwamindhra Meetva:
>
> Suputhraam Subakham Kirunu |
>
> Dhasaaayam Puthraan Aadhehi
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> Padhimegha Dhasam Kruthi ||
>
>
>
> Meaning: Oh Indra, who is a wealthy man! Bless the bride so that she gives
> birth to good and noble sons. Let her have, by your grace, 10 sons and
> treat her husband as her 11th son. (Rig Veda-X, 85.45)
>
>
>
> Oorvashi*-Oorvashi, an Apsaras, is a maharishi.
>
>
>
> Emperor Pururavas was infatuated with the heavenly Apsaras. She lays a few
> conditions to live with him and thus the emperor spends four years happily
> with the woman he desired. The Devas, in order to take Oorvashi back to
> their abode, cunningly execute their plans in such a way that makes the
> emperor forget the conditions she had laid.
>
>
>
> Oorvashi leaves him for failing to keep his word. Driven to grief at her
> separation, the emperor wanders and finally finds her playing with her
> friends. He requests her to come back with him but she refuses.
>
>
>
> The conversation that is held between them can be found in Rig Veda, 10th
> Mandalam, 95th Suktham.
>
>
>
> Q8 Who were the woman maharishis *Abaala:* Kosha:*
>
>
>
> A8 Rishikaa Abaala was a descendant of Athiri maharishi. Since she
> suffered from a skin disease, her husband refused to accept her which made
> Abaala return to her parent's house.
>
>
>
> One morning, while returning home after bathing in the river, she saw a
> soma plant. She had wanted to offer soma rasam to Lord Indra that day.
>
>
>
> She plucked the leaves and chewed them, thus offering the rasam to the
> Lord. Indra, pleased by her offering, granted her three boons. Abaala's
> three wishes were, that hair should grow on her father's bald head, his
> dry lands should become fertile again to give a bountiful harvest and that
> her skin disease should be cured.
>
>
>
> Indra granted the wishes, to Abaala's delight. Abaala is the rishikaa for
> this Suktham. (Rig Veda VIII 91. In some it is mentioned as VIII 80.)
>
>
>
> *Kosha:* She was afflicted with leprosy and so she was forced to spend
> her life as a spinster. Later, she prayed to Ashvini Devathas with two
> Sukthams. The Devathas cured her, bestowed her with beauty and health and
> got her married to a worthy groom. (Rig Veda 1117.7).
>
>
>
> Q9 Everybody thinks about the short size image of a sage when talk of
> sage Agsthia. Question- Who was his wife and what were her specialiries?
>
>
>
> A9 Lopamudra woman maharishi was sage Agasthya's wife. According to
> Thalaicauvery Sthalapurana, she was believed to have been the origin of the
> Cauvery. According to this purana, Lopamudra married sage Agasthya and
> then laid the condition that they should never separate to which the sage
> agreed.
>
>
>
> Once, when he had to leave for a short while, he turned her into water
> and filled her in his kamandal. It is said that after he left, Lopamudra,
> unable to contain herself inside the kamandal, swelled and flowed as the
> River Cauvery.
>
>
>
> Q10 During the vedic period do women had learning? Had they became on that
> account?
>
>
>
> A10 Yes. The girls had the oppurtunity to learn for nearly 10 to 12 years
> before they got married. Some girls studied even Vedantam (Upanishads)
> and were geniuses. They were called as 'Brahmavaadhinis'. Among them,
> some were 'rishikaas' (women rishis).
>
>
>
> If we take the Rig Veda, there were rishikaas like Romasa, Lopamudra,
> Visuvavara,
>
> Abaala, Kosha, Sooriya Savithri, Oorvashi, Waak, Raathiri and Sradha
> Kamayani.
>
>
>
> Q11 Do any other world classic equal Mahabharata ?
>
>
>
> A11 No. Mahabharata which consists of one lakh slokas, was created by
> Vyasa and written by Vinayaka. Illiad and Odessey, the two great Greek
> epics of Homer combined are smaller than Mahabharata in content. As
> Bharatham explains about various factors, it is considered as fifth Veda.
> (Bharatha: panchamo veda:)
>
>
>
> While Vinayaka was writing the epic, it is said his stylus broke and he
> broke one of his tusks to continue writing. That is the reason why he is
> called as 'Eka Danthan', it is stated.
>
>
>
> Q12 What is the meaning of the following verse?
>
>
>
> *'Vyasaya Vishnu Roopaya, Vyasa Roopaya Vishnave |*
>
> *Namove Bhrama Nithaye, Vasishtaya Namo Namaha:'*
>
>
>
> A12The meaning of this sloka is 'Salutation to Vyasa who is in the form of
> Vishnu and Vishnu who is in the form of Vyasa and one who is the treasure
> house of the Vedas. Salutation to one who was born in the noble family of
> Vasishta'. The honour of being equal to Vishnu belonged to Maharishi Vyasa.
>
>
>
> Q13 What is the very interesting story by which Krishna taught Narada what
> is Maya? Where this story is told?
>
>
>
> A13 Once when Naradha was staying with Krishna in Dwaraka, they decided to
> go on an aerial trip on a chariot. The sage felt thirsty after sometime and
> wanted to quench his thirst when they came across a river.
>
>
>
> Krishna told him to do so after bathing but Naradha did not pay heed to
> his advice. He drank the water without bathing and got transformed into a
> beautiful woman. Krishna and the chariot disappeared from his view.
>
>
>
> Naradha, who wandered into the forest, saw a rishi in penance and stood
> before him with folded hands. The rishi opened his eyes and accepted
> Naradha as his disciple. After some time, Naradha, who was in the form of a
> woman, married the rishi and had 60 children.
>
>
>
> One day, the rishi and the 60 children died, leaving Naradha grieving
> alone. She wanted to perform the funeral rites but was unable to do so.
> Suddenly, she felt very hungry and tried to reach for the nearest tree for
> ripe mangoes. She could not reach them and so *she laid the dead bodies
> in a heap and climbed on them to pluck the fruits.*
>
>
>
> A Brahmin appeared from nowhere and told her that as she was in
> bereavement, it was not proper to eat without having a bath. She accepted
> the advice and went to the nearby river. *She held the mango aloft in one
> hand and dipped the rest of her body in the water.*
>
>
>
> The woman transformed into Naradha again except that *the hand which had
> not touched the water remained the hand of a woman with bangles*.
>
>
>
> The Brahmin, who was really Krishna, told him to take a bath again, and
> this time Naradha immersed himself fully in the water.
>
>
>
> *He regained his normal form and the mango in his hand had turned into a
> beautiful Veena.*
>
>
>
> Krishna explained to him that the rishi was the Kaala Purushan and the 60
> children were the 60 years Prabhava, Vibhava and so on.
>
>
>
> Then Naradha and Krishna returned to Dwaraka. (Bhagavatham - 7th
> skandam).Published by Kala Nilayam Ramakrishna Mutt Road,Mylapore, Chennai
> - 4
>
> Q14 Why sage Narada had to wander like a vagabond? Is it due to any curse ?
>
> A14 Yes. Dakshan’s sons who wanted to marry and raise a progeny were sent
> by sage Naradha, who asked them to go around the world to check whether
> there was any space available for their children to live. The sons never
> returned .
>
> So Dakshan cursed the sage that he would be wandering like a vagabond and
> never have a home of his own.
>
> Naaradha because of Dhakshans curse, has been going around the world like
> a nomad without a permanent home. (Devi Bhagavatham - 7th skandam, Vishnu
> Puranam - 1st baagam, 15th chapter).
>
> Q15 What was the end of sage narada as per Bhagavatham?
>
> A15 Once Naradha and his mother Kalavathy served the sadhus who were the
> guests of the Brahmin. When it was time for the sadhus to leave, they
> communicated a mantra 'Om Namo Baghavathe Vaasudevaya' to Naradha and
> asked him to chant the mantra daily
>
>
>
> . Naradha did penance by chanting the mantra and died doing so.
> (Bhagavatham - 7th Skandham)
>
>
>
> Q16 DO in the Upaharnan re birth Narada was married?
>
>
>
> A16 Yes. Once Upaharnan was involved in intense contemplation. Fifty
> Gandharva girls, who were passing that way, fell in love with him. He lived
> with them for a long time, raised children and grandchildren and breathed
> his last at the end.
>
>
>
> Q17 What was the second re birth of Narada?
>
>
>
> A17 Emperor Thurumilan and his wife Kalavathy prayed for an issue. By the
> grace of God, Kalavathy conceived. Meanwhile, the emperor gifted away all
> his wealth to the needy and died a pauper.
>
> Kalavathy went to a nearby village and started working in a Bramhin's
> house as a servant. The village was hit by a drought then and people were
> suffering without water. *Meanwhile, Kalavathy gave birth to a son and as
> soon as the child was born, heavy rains lashed the village and so the
> Brahmin named the child as Naradha (Naaram - water), meaning one who brings
> rain.*
>
> Q18 Why Narada had to take re-births? What was his first re- birth?
>
> A18 Naradha was the son of Bramha, born from his lap. Brahma advised him
> to get married and raise progeny. But Naradha did not show interest in
> marriage and so Brahma cursed him which resulted in a few births for
> Naradha.
>
> Chithrakethu, a Gandharva, was childless. Wishing for an issue, he did
> penance, praying to Lord Siva.By the Lord's grace, Naradha was born as his
> son. The child was named Upaharnan and he grew up to be a devotee of
> Vishnu.
>
> Q19 Who were the parents of sage Durvasa?
>
> A19 Athiri and Anasooya were be blessed with the three Lords as her
> children. Siva, in a state of anger, was born to Anasooya and the child
> was named Durvasar. (Brahmmanda Puranam , Chapter 44).
>
> Q20 Why do River Ganga is called 'Thripadhaka'?
>
> A20 Since Ganga travelled through the Sky, earth and the nether world,
> she will be called as 'Thripadhaka'
>
> Q21 Every body know about Saturn son of Sun god. Sani had an own sister.
> Name her and her husband. Who arranged their marriage?
>
> A21 Chaya gave birth to Sanaiswaran and Thapthi, a daughter from Sun
>
> Samvaranan, a King of Chandra Vamsa, ruled his counry with Vasishta as
> his Raajaguru. One day Samvaranan saw Tapti along with some apsaras taking
> bath. Samvaranan and Thapthi fell in love instantly. Surya gave his
> consent for the marriage of Thapthi with Samvaranan.
>
> The Sage arranged for their wedding and blessed them. Lord Surya blessed
> his daughter and at a later stage turned her into River Narmada - which
> flows from Vindhya mountains towards the West
>
> Q22 Who was Samgna &Chaya? Who were their children?
>
>
>
> A22 Lord Surya had a wife Samgna by name, and through her a son called
> Yama and a daughter called Yami or Kalindhi were born.
>
>
>
> Samgna unable to withstand the resplendence of Surya requested her friend
> Chaya to look after him and left on a pilgrimage.
>
> In the process Chaya gave birth to Sanaiswaran and Thapthi, a daughter.
>
> Q23 Do Prayers for the dead form an integral part of the religions?
>
> A23 Yes. Prayers for the dead form an integral part of most of the
> religions. The Catholic Church conducts prayers for the dead.
>
> Q24 What is Gurupurnima?
>
> A24 On this day, sacred to the memory of the great sage, Bhagavan Sri
> Vyasa, Sannyasins settle at some place to study and discourse on the
> thrice-blessed *Brahma Sutras *composed by Maharishi Vyasa, and engage
> themselves in Vedantic, philosophical investigation
>
>
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> *These are information posted by members* compiled as QA by me in
> 1998’s-2000’s and stored in my computer. At this date I have no information
> of the members posted.
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> *Posted by R Gopala krishnan,78 ,on 7-10-2021*
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