Pranam
So Before NIMI no one did srardham?. Then it is stated that Brahma did it?;
if so to whom Brahma performed srardham?. Rig veda Mantras are used and
also the Vedas speak about these performances and safety after the death;
and who is older ? Rig or Nimi?; and varaha Puranam is dated recent than
Matsya and that speaks of srardham too. What is "cripture"?.  Dhanam is an
aspect of giving to right vedic (not fraud) purohits , who ion turn, shall
donate to social causes. Hence Dhanam is a modality of sharing the wealth.
Since there is only a soul unknown as air medium, who will catch the tail
and go behind a cow?. Tarpaṇa (तर्पण).—n.(*-ṇaṃ*) 1. Satisfaction given or
received; either the act of pleasing, or the state of being pleased. 2.
Satiety, fullness. Srardham is Śraddhā (श्रद्धा).—3 U. 1) To confide,
believe, put faith in (with acc. of thing); कः श्रद्धास्यति भूतार्थम् (*kaḥ
śraddhāsyati bhūtārtham)  *    Mk.3.24; कामिन्यः श्रदधुरनार्जवं नरेषु
(*kāminyaḥ
śradadhuranārjavaṃ nareṣu*) Śi.8.11;9.69; U.7.6; श्रद्दधे त्रिदशगोप-
मात्रके दाहशक्तिमिव कृष्णवर्त्मनि (*śraddadhe tridaśagopa- mātrake
dāhaśaktimiva kṛṣṇavartmani*) R.11.42. Both cannote the belief in the
karmic acts and the rebirths and that in turn evinces the ancient ancestral
memories; these samskaras help the varnas and the economy. As far as self
it is an advancement in Bhakthi and a path towards the moksham. It is
symbolic. Upanishad authoritatively describes the transformations of the
soul, but sukshma sharira etc are later thought processes. If all roads
lead to Rome, then all ways of good living alone can usher in the good or
bad births whoever he or she  or it may be in any location. It is not
atheism. By doing this one shall not perish. By not doing this because
other cultures entail another road, do not grant any lower births also.
Dharma is life and swadharma is ancestral.  KR IRs 161121

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 09:24, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
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> * DIVINE INFORMATION 2-19   Posted by: "DILIP KUMAR
> RAVINDRAN" [email protected]
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>   prdili
> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/prdili>Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:40 am (PST)   Varaha
> purana Part 31 EARTHEN AND COPPER IDOLS A devotee should carefully make a
> beautiful earthen idol without any sign of crack. The most auspicious time
> for the installation of an earthen idol is said to be during 'shravan
> nakshatra'. An invocation is made to the deity to dwell within the idol
> after which ablution of the idol is performed with the help of various
> articles like holy water, panchagavya, sandalwood, etc. The rituals of
> worship are similar to that of wooden or stone-idol." "The best time for
> the installation of copper idol is said to be during 'chitra' nakshatra.
> The idol should be installed facing north and should be purified with the
> help of holy water, panchagavya, etc. Then the deity is invoked to dwell
> within the idol. The invocation is made by chanting sacred mantras. Now,
> the idol is fit to be worshipped. The rituals are same as mentioned
> earlier." BRONZE IDOL "The most auspicious time for the installation of
> bronze-idol is said to be during jyeshtha nakshatra. The idol should be
> installed facing north. At the time of installation the devotee must not
> forget to keep four small pots in front of the deity, each filled with
> articles like 'panchgavya' ' water, sandalwood and honey. The rituals of
> invocation as well as worship are same as mentioned earlier." SILVER AND
> GOLD IDOLS "The rituals for the installation of silver or gold idols are
> similar to that of copper or bronze idol.    Prithvi requested lord Varah
> to reveal the name of deities whom a devotee can worship at home. Lord
> Vishnu replied-"A devotee can worship any deity at home but worship of two
> shiva lingas is prohibited.   Similarly, a devotee should never worship
> three shaligrams or three durga idols or two surya idols.   A devotee
> should also never worship shaligrams adding up to odd numbers-
> 3,5,7,etc.But, there is no harm in worshipping one shaligram. A devotee
> must never worship broken or cracked idol because it does not bode well for
> the worshipper. A 'chakra' mark on the shaligram is considered as very
> auspicious and it can be worshipped even if the idol is broken or cracked.
>   The virtues attained by worshipping twelve shaligrams are similar to that
> of worshipping twelve crore shiva lingas. Partaking of 'charnamrit' that
> has been offered to shaligram absolves a man from all his sins.   But, a
> devotee should never partake any 'prasad' that has been offered to shiva
> linga. Anybody who either buys or sells a shaligram is certain to go to
> hell."    Varaha Purana   part 32...RITUALS PERTAINING TO LAST  RITES
>         Posted by: "DILIP KUMAR RAVINDRAN" [email protected]
> <[email protected]>   prdili         Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:00 pm (PST)
> PITRA YAGYA         Prithvi requested lord Varaha to define the meaning of
> 'Pitra'  yagya(rituals pertaining to last rite) and its significance. Lord
> Varaha  replied-"Sage Nimi was the first person to perform the rituals of
>  pitra-yagya after the death of his son Aatreya.   Sage Aatreya is famous
> for his penance which he did for ten thousand years. When Aatreya died, his
> father-Nimi was filled with grief. Nimi tried his best to overcome  his
> sorrow but to no avail. He mourned his son's death for three consecutive
> nights. He thought that perhaps the performance of 'shraddh'
> rituals would be the best means to get rid of his sorrow. So, he decided
>   to perform the 'shraddh' rituals on the twelfth day of 'magh'.On
> that         day,he invited many brahmins and fed them with the same
> delicacies which  Aatreya would have liked to eat. He performed all the
> rituals well       within a day which would otherwise have taken a week to
> perform. He also    performed the rituals of 'pinda daan' by donating
> cereals, vegetables and fruits.   While performing the rituals of
> pinda-daan, he         took some kusha grass in his hands and after
> pointing it towards south  chanted Aatreya's name and gotra. In the night,
> Nimi sat on the seat of         deer skin underneath which kusha grass had
> been spread. He then tried to   concentrate on the tip of the nose. But in
> spite of all his efforts    there was no sign of mental peace he was so
> desperately seeking and     thought of his dead son continued to torment
> him."         "Nimi was troubled by a guilt that perhaps he had set a bad
> precedent by  performing the rituals of pinda daan because nobody in the
> past had ever         performed the rituals.   He was worried as to what
> would the coming   generation think of him. He was so much troubled by the
> thought that he could not sleep for the whole night. Next morning he got
> up, still  worried. He remained in a disturbed state of mind for many days.
> At   last, when it became too much for him to handle, he decided to end his
> life. In the meantime, sage Narad arrived there and assured him that
>  there was nothing to be worried about as whatever he had done was most
>  appropriate. Narad also convinced him that even his(Nimi's)dead
> father         would vouch for this fact."   "Nimi remembered his father
> who had died long ago.His father revealed to   him that the rituals which
> he had performed were in fact the rituals of         'pitra-yagya' .
> Describing the importance of pitra-yagya Nemi's father   told him- 'The
> name pitra-yagya' was given by none other than lord  Brahma himself who was
> the first one to perform the rituals .Later on,  lord Brahma had described
> the rituals to Narad and this is why Narad was convinced that you had
> committed no wrong. Nemi's father then described         as to what should
> be done with regard to the person who lay dying- 'When the death approaches
> a person loses his consciousness and becomes  extremely fearful.   At that
> time, a brahmin should constantly study the  criptures so that he could die
> in peace.   Donating a cow helps to pacify   the soul of a dead person. If
> sacred mantras are whispered in the ears         of a dying person he dies
> peacefully. When the death seems imminent, a   morsel of 'Madhupark'
> (mixture of curd, water,honey and clarified butter) should be kept in the
> mouth of the dying         person .While doing this one should pray to the
> almighty to liberate the  dead man's soul.' 'The dead body should then be
> carried and kept under a  tree where it is purified by smearing ghee, oil,
> perfumes, etc.It is  then carried to cremation ground and kept at the bank
> of a river-feet         pointing towards south. After this, the dead body
> should be bathed by   remembering all the sacred places of pilgrimage. It
> should then be kept    on the pyre-feet pointing south. The pyre should be
> lit and the  following prayer should be said-O Agnideva! I pray to you to
> burn all  the sins committed by this person so that he attains to heaven.
> Now, circumambulation around the pyre is made and the pyre is lit towards
> the   head side.'   My note- I have listened to samaradhana by a sasthrikal
> where he told-holding the tail of cow, the pithru could cross the river
> Vaitharani. Nothing is told here about it other than donation of a cow is
> good     'After consigning the dead body to flames , the rituals of
> 'tarpan' and   'pinda-daan' are performed. All the people assembled there
> should purify         themselves before returning home. The period starting
> from the time the dead body is consigned to flames till the next ten days
> is called         'Ashaucha'.It is applicable to all the relatives coming
> from the same  gotra of the deceased.'   My note- Now it is restricted to
> blood relations. When it was modified? By whom? This is the reason for my
> telling there are MISSING LINKS-   Posted to Groups on 16-11-2021 by R.
> Gopalakrishnan   *
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