Pranam
Firewalking Theemithi is again THE FAITH RV 10 151 WROTE ELSEWHERE and
definitely not so easily to undermine low heat wood and coal etc. Walking
bare feet across the forests to have darshan of Ayyappan is like that?.
Parikrama around the Mansarovar in that cold is just like that?. Malaysian
and Indians piercing their body pulling the cart is so easy as that?.
PAIN
Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain but for the heart to conquer it.
”Rabindranath Tagore (1861-1941)
Suffering is seen as a part of living until finally reaching moksha.
Until reaching this state, suffering is always present on life’s
path. Hindu tradition holds that as we are in human form on earth, we are
bound by the laws of our world and will experience physical pain. Pain is
truly felt in our current physical bodies; it is not illusory in the sense
of not really being felt but while the body maybe in pain, the Self or soul
is not affected or harmed.
Arjuna, a seeker of wisdom in The Bhagavad-Gita, is told: “The self
embodied in the body of every being is indestructible”. And “Weapons do not
cut it, fire does not burn it, waters do not wet it, wind does not wither
it. It cannot be cut or burned; it cannot be wet or withered; it is
enduring, all-pervasive, fixed, immovable, and timeless”. As the Self is
not affected, there need be no concern over temporary suffering.
Pain and suffering are not seen as solely bad but as experiences that
need to be viewed from multiple perspectives. Hindu traditions hold that
all things are manifestations of God/The Ultimate, so nothing is only good
or bad; God/The Ultimate encompasses everything. Everything, including pain
and suffering, is given by God/The Ultimate. To view suffering as bad is to
see only one side of it. Suffering can be positive if it leads to
progression a spiritual path. Some even embrace suffering as away to
progress on his spiritual path, to be tested and learn from a difficult
experience. Attachment and detachment are concepts that in Hindu
traditions relate to one’s level of involvement in this world and to the
power this world holds over one’s state of mind. Attachment signifies
overinvolvement in this world, having desires for things that one does not
have and clinging to things one has. Detachment is a positive
state of objectivity toward this world, where relationships, objects,
and circumstances hold no power over one’s state of mind. Attachment is a
primary stum-bling block to achieving moksha, complete release.
At-attachment perpetuates the “terrible bondage” that keeps a person
in the cycles of samsara, rebirth. Only through recognition that the
Self is not bound to this world of suffering can release be achieved.
Perfect detachment creates an “. . . even disposition in the face of
either happiness or sorrow . . .” When one achieves perfect
detachment, no problem or circumstance, including pain, can cause one to
suffer.“
“Contacts with matter make us feel heat and cold, pleasure and pain.
Arjuna, you must learn to endure fleeting things—they come and go! When
these cannot torment a man, When suffering and joy are equal for him and he
has courage, he is fit for immortality”. What suggestions are made for
achieving this detachment? It cannot be simply an intellectual
understanding that the Self is part of God/The Ultimate. It is not
escapist, pretending that suffering does not exist. One part of
achieving detachment is to follow dharma, appropriate action, but to be
unconcerned with the outcomes of these actions. Arjuna is told: “Be
intent on action, not on the fruits of action; avoid attraction to the
fruits and attachment to inaction! Perform actions, firm in discipline,
relinquishing attachment; be impartial to failure and success-this
equanimity is called discipline”.
The ultimate goal would be to become neutral in the face of whatever
outcome occurs, to not desperately strive for pain relief. Most
important, however, would be to refocus away from pain to dharma.
Acceptance is both a central concept in Hindu traditions and one that has
been studied in the pain literature. Hindu traditions promote acceptance of
pain and suffering as the just working of karma. The practice of acceptance
is also a means to a greater end. By accepting one’s condition, one becomes
less attached to changing it. Acceptance of pain and detachment from any
struggle with the experience of pain means that painful or pain-free states
would be accepted equally. Detachment from this world, in order to be
focused on God/The Ultimate, is a primary goal in Hindu traditions.
तिलेषु तैलं दधिनीव सर्पिरापः स्रोतःस्वरणीषु चाग्निः ।
एवमात्माऽत्मनि गृह्यतेऽसौ सत्येनैनं तपसा योऽनुपश्यति ॥ १५ ॥
सर्वव्यापिनमात्मानं क्षीरे सर्पिरिवार्पितम् ।
आत्मविद्यातपोमूलं तद्ब्रह्मोपनिषत्परं तद्ब्रह्मॊपनिषत्परमिति ॥ १६ ॥
As oil in sesame seeds, as butter in milk, as water in *Srota*, as fire in
fuel-sticks, he finds in his own self that One (Atman), he, who sees him
through Satya <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya> (truthfulness) and Tapas
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas_(Sanskrit)> (austerity). (15)
He sees the all pervading Atman, as butter lying dormant in milk,
rooted in self-knowledge and self-discipline – which is the final goal of
the Upanishad, the final goal of Upanishad. (16)
*— Shvetashvatara Upanishad 1.15-1.16*
* Now think, every woman on this earth would like to become pregnant
and deliver a baby ,knowing fully well that the pain to deliver is
scientifically proved as very high pressure, and yet she tolerates the
pain, rather forgets about it, in the process, and does not even back-think
about it; so too the fire walking. Yes in the heat of the fire, lies the
godliness felt only by that soul and not by the visitor; why have you
written as an old lady in cold survived and died?. *
Ramana had a surgery at his back live how?. Bhishma was laid on
the bed of nails how?. The man blistered by glass pieces and covered with
blood could walk through dragging, to hospital in the war, How?. Primary
when becoming the secondary, the secondary of saving becomes the Primary;
You intent to feel the pain or pleasure and there is neither pain nor
pleasure at all. KR IRS 281221
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