Pranam 1 Another instagram is going to west for everything as it had become a habit; yesterday the actor ,politician crypto Kamal in BB was talking for the nth time on Chaos effect (as kaya's effect); even the anecdote of of pebble thrown at one end of the pond creating ripples is not missing. Chaos theory is an interdisciplinary scientific theory and branch of mathematics focused on underlying patterns and deterministic laws highly sensitive to initial conditions in dynamical systems that were thought to have completely random states of disorder and irregularities. Disambigulation is a status existing in Indian vedas even 10000 years back whereas the chaos theory was involved since 1960 after Stephan Smile. But an atheist could find time to learn and believe though he cannot go deeper than but prefer to be a non-believer, without even evincing the same interest as he does for the other. Neuron indiscipline?. 2 What was said by us?. Brahadarnyaka upanishad verses 4 4 5&6 quotes as:
Verse 4.4.5: स वा अयमात्मा ब्रह्म विज्ञानमयो मनोमयः प्राणमयश्चक्शुर्मयः श्रोत्रमयः पृथिवीमय आपोमयो वायुमय आकाशमयस्तेजोमयोऽतेजोमयः काममयोऽकाममयः क्रोधमयोऽक्रोधमयो धर्ममयोऽधर्ममयः सर्वमयस्तद्यदेतदिदंमयोऽदोमय इति; यथाकारी यथाचारी तथा भवति—साधुकारी साधुर्भवति, पापकारी पापो भवति; पुण्यः पुण्येन कर्मणा भवति, पापः पापेन । अथो खल्वाहुः काममय एवायं पुरुष इति; स यथाकामो भवति तत्क्रतुर्भवति, यत्क्रतुर्भवति तत्कर्म कुरुते, यत्कर्म कुरुते तदभिसंपद्यते ॥ ५ ॥ sa vā ayamātmā brahma vijñānamayo manomayaḥ prāṇamayaścakśurmayaḥ śrotramayaḥ pṛthivīmaya āpomayo vāyumaya ākāśamayastejomayo'tejomayaḥ kāmamayo'kāmamayaḥ krodhamayo'krodhamayo dharmamayo'dharmamayaḥ sarvamayastadyadetadidaṃmayo'domaya iti; yathākārī yathācārī tathā bhavati—sādhukārī sādhurbhavati, pāpakārī pāpo bhavati; puṇyaḥ puṇyena karmaṇā bhavati, pāpaḥ pāpena | atho khalvāhuḥ kāmamaya evāyaṃ puruṣa iti; sa yathākāmo bhavati tatkraturbhavati, yatkraturbhavati tatkarma kurute, yatkarma kurute tadabhisaṃpadyate || 5 || 5. <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-brihadaranyaka-upanishad/d/doc122058.html#page-712>That self is indeed Brahman, as well as identified with the intellect, the Manas and the vital force, with the eyes and ears, with earth, water, air and the ether, with fire, and what is other than fire, with desire and the absence of desire, with anger and the absence of anger, with righteousness and unrighteousness, with everything—identified, as is well known, with this (what is perceived) and with that (what is inferred). As it does and acts, so it becomes; by doing good it becomes good, and by doing evil it becomes evil—it becomes virtuous through good acts and *vicious through evil acts. (chaos effect) * Others, however, say, ‘The self is identified with desire alone. What it desires, it resolves; what it resolves, it works out; and what it works out, it attains.’ when that desire is somehow frustrated, it takes the form of anger, and the self becomes identified *with anger.* When that anger is appeased by some means, and the mind becomes serene and peaceful, it is called *the absence of anger;* the self becomes identified with that. Thus the self, becoming identified with desire and anger as well as with the absence of them, becomes identified *with righteousness and unrighteousness,* for without desire, anger, etc. the tendency to righteousness and so forth cannot arise. Witness the Smṛti: ‘Whatever action a man does, is the outcome of desire’ (M. II. 4). Verse 4.4.6: तदेष श्लोको भवति । तदेव सक्तः सह कर्मणैति लिङ्गं मनो यत्र निषक्तमस्य । प्राप्यान्तं कर्मणस्तस्य यत्किञ्चेह करोत्ययम् । तस्माल्लोकात्पुनरैत्यस्मै लोकाय कर्मणे ॥ इति नु कामयमानः; अथाकामयमानः—योऽकामो निष्काम आप्तकाम आत्मकामो न तस्य प्राणा उत्क्रामन्ति, ब्रह्मैव सन्ब्रह्माप्येति ॥ ६ ॥ tadeṣa śloko bhavati | tadeva saktaḥ saha karmaṇaiti liṅgaṃ mano yatra niṣaktamasya | prāpyāntaṃ karmaṇastasya yatkiñceha karotyayam | tasmāllokātpunaraityasmai lokāya karmaṇe || iti nu kāmayamānaḥ; athākāmayamānaḥ—yo'kāmo niṣkāma āptakāma ātmakāmo na tasya prāṇā utkrāmanti, brahmaiva sanbrahmāpyeti || 6 || 6. <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-brihadaranyaka-upanishad/d/doc122058.html#page-717>Regarding this there is the following verse: ‘Being attached, he, together with the work, attains that result to which his subtle body or mind is attached. Exhausting the results of whatever work he did in this life, he returns from that world to this for (fresh) work.’ Thus does the man who desires (transmigrate). But the man who does not desire (never transmigrates). Of him who is without desires, who is free from desires, the objects of whose desire have been attained, and to whom all objects of desire are but the Self—the organs do not depart. Being but Brahman, he is merged in Brahman. 3 As a man himself sows, so he himself reaps; no man inherits the good or evil act of another man. The fruit is of the same quality as the action.— Mahabharata <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata>, xii.291.22 - 4 The Nyaya <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyaya> school of Hinduism considers karma and rebirth as central, with some Nyaya scholars such as Udayana <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udayana> suggesting that the Karma doctrine implies that God exists. - The Vaisesika <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaisheshika> school does not consider the karma from past lives doctrine very important. - The Samkhya <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya> school considers karma to be of secondary importance (second to *prakrti* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prak%E1%B9%9Bti>). - The Mimamsa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%ABm%C4%81%E1%B9%83s%C4%81> school gives a negligible role to karma from past lives, disregards *samsara <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsara>* and *moksa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksa>*. - The Yoga <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_(philosophy)> school considers karma from past lives to be secondary, one's behavior and psychology in the current life is what has consequences and leads to entanglements. - The Vedanta <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta> school acknowledges the karma-rebirth doctrine, but concludes it is a theory that is not derived from reality and cannot be proven, considers it invalid for its failure to explain evil / inequality / other observable facts about society, treats it as a convenient fiction <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convenient_fiction> to solve practical problems in Upanishadic times, and declares it irrelevant - In the Advaita Vedanta <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta> school, actions in current life have moral consequences and liberation is possible within one's life as *jivanmukti <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jivanmukta>* (self-realized person). Chaos Theory as the first of his known unknowns. The author is sad that he can never make a prediction where his dice will fall even if the dice is fair; he has knowledge about the initial state; and he has a hold of all the equations. Newton gave us this fantastic predictable world where if the initial conditions of the Universe or for that matter any system are known; and the laws and equations are plugged in, the future state can be clearly known at any point of time. In short, the world is predictable if there is complete knowledge of the existing state. But, alas, Chaos theory was a nail in the coffin of this hopeful proposition. The catch was the state of initial conditions. That can never be known to perfection. Starting with Poincaré, Chaos theory now establishes the fact that the initial state can never be known to perfection. The result is extremely sensitive to the initial conditions, and a change at the 50th decimal place can bring gross changes in the outcome. There is no way to predict which way the smoke will go once an incense stick is lighted. Light up 1000 incense sticks in the same conditions, and the smoke will take a different direction. The imperfectability of knowledge of the initial state translates that we can never know the future and the past too. There are biological chaotic systems too where an additional animal in the system can create a havoc in the dynamic systems or create a stable species environment. The smallest change in the initial set up can lead to extremely divergent final outcomes. It is frustrating for the scientists perhaps to deal with such theories; but Chaos theory is now accepted as mainstream. The elements of Chaos theory have been aptly summarized in the famous statement that the fluttering of a butterfly in New York can set off a storm somewhere across the globe. Science seem to me clearly coming in the ambit of Vedantic philosophy. It always surprises me no end that many top-notch scientists and physicists in the Western world must turn to atheism to do their science. 5 CAUSE AND EFFECT: KARANA KARYA: According to Hinduism, all effects arise from pre-existing causes only. Nonexistence cannot be the cause of existence in any form or manner. Three conditions or causative principles are essential for effects to manifest from their causes namely the material or substance, qualities or essential nature and force or impetus. The first two constitute the material cause and the third, the essential cause. Hinduism clearly holds that everything in existence has a cause. Causes and effects follow a predictable pattern, which ensures the order and regularity of things or the reality that manifests. Nothing can come out of nothing. There must be a cause for something to manifest. In Hinduism we find change or transformation may happen in creation namely by alteration. In the alteration method, causes undergo mutation or transformation to become effects.(corona is one such) For example, water becomes ice or vapor, depending upon the changes in temperature. The seed becomes a plant or a tree. The egg becomes a living being. Life is subject to change because beings are caught in the modifications of Nature and the duality of cause and effect. Liberation in a sense means liberation from cause and effect only. The eternal souls are free from all effects. They remain unaffected and immutable even when they are bound to Nature and the cycle of births and deaths. Changes may happen around them but not in them. 6 And is it tough to know from here? 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