What a wonderful and very interesting information,you both,Sri
Gopalakrishnan Sir,and Sridharan Sir have been giving!
Your zeal is so impressive.
Thank you.
YM

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:43 PM 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

> *Respected Sir/s,*
>
> *                             CROW  meaning and symbolism include
> adaptability, cleverness and intelligence, teamwork and reciprocity,
> transformation, and psychic abilities. Crows live on every continent except
> Antarctica. *
>
> *COMMON CROW** also known as the raven is the national bird of the**
> country **BHUTAN.*
>
> *  The house crow has apt names in Indian languages which are onomatopoeic
> **(**சொல்லின் உச்சரிப்பும்**, **அதன் பொருளும் கிட்டத்தட்ட ஒரே மாதிரி
> இருத்தல்**)* *i**n origin. It **is KAKAH **काकः* *in Sanskrit, KOWWA*
> *कौआ* *in Hindi, KAAKI **కాకి* *in Telugu, KAGE* *ಕಾಗೆ**, in Kannada,
> KOWLA* *कावळा* *in Marathi, KAGDO* *કાગડો** in Gujarati and KAG* *কাক* *in
> Bengali. The most befitting name is **kaa kaa* *கா* *கா* *கா* *കാ*  *കാ*
> *കാ* *in both Tamil and Malayalam as this is precisely echoic of the
> bird's call. **This is the main call, but it has a bit more of vocabulary
> expressive of various moods and situations.*
>
>       It is one of the better and less harsh looking of the crows. The
> fore-crown, front parts of the face, wings and tail, as also the bill and
> legs, are dull black. The hind-crown, neck, breast and belly are
> mouse-grey. Variations occur region-wise and the birds of Sri Lanka and
> southern India are more blackish.
>
>          Crows typically hide their nests in a crotch near the trunk of a
> tree or on a horizontal branch, generally towards the top third or quarter
> of the tree. They prefer to nest in evergreens, but will nest in deciduous
> trees when evergreens are less available. •
>
> Power of Insight: Crows are known to build their nests on very tall
> trees. By doing so, they get a better vision and perspective of the
> surroundings. If the crow is ones *totem* animal, you will also get a
> better vision to see things clearly. When a fearless crow has a direct,
> unimpeded path to a nearby food source, the adrenaline kicks in and the
> bird rapidly hops in a beeline to the meal. Familiar with this particular
> food and confident in its environment, the bird knows it can go quickly and
> seize the prize. Its speed may be determined by the fact that its prey may
> be moving, or that there’s competition for it from other crows.
>
>  (*TOTEM: a** natural object or animal that is believed by a particular
> society to have spiritual significance and that is adopted by it as an
> emblem*.)
>
> Crows will only use a nest once, and generally only fledge one brood a
> year. They will, however build on top of an old nest particularly in areas
> where nest trees are especially sparse.
>
>                               *CROWS** are one of the most mysterious and
> complex birds and an animal that we are still learning more about each day.
> One very interesting behaviour of crows is their ability to communicate.
> They are highly intelligent animals that have their own unique language,
> and sometimes that communication is directed at us humans. Crows are
> extremely intelligent birds. They are known for their problem-solving
> skills and amazing communication skills. For example, when a crow
> encounters a mean human, it will teach other crows how to identify the
> human. In fact, research shows that crows don’t forget a face.* *Some
> people have reported that after they establish a strong relationship with a
> wild crow, the crow gave them a unique name. There will be a certain tone
> and sequence that the bird calls to a specific person to get their
> attention and to communicate with other crows about that person. *
>
>            Many types of crows are solitary, but they will often forage in
> groups. Others stay in large groups. A group of crows is called a murder.
> When one crow dies, the murder will surround the deceased. This funeral
> isn’t just to mourn the dead, though. The crows gather together to find out
> what killed their member. Then, the murder of crows will band together and
> chase predators in a behaviour called mobbing. With some crow species, the
> yearlings and non-mating adults live in a group called a roosting
> community.
>
> Some crows migrate while other crows don’t migrate in the common sense.
> They will travel to warmer areas of their territory, when needed.
>
>     *Crows sometimes appear as a method of divination and prophecy. In
> some mythologies, crows are seen as a sign of bad things to come, but in
> others they are considered to be messengers from the gods. Crows often
> appear as trickster characters in folklore and legend.*
>
> ·         Crow or raven is a spirit animal. A spirit animal is a symbol
> of magic and mystery that we experience in our lives. Spirit animals can
> help us know more about ourselves as well as the world around us. If a crow
> appears in your waking life or your dream, it brings you different
> messages, which are going to affect your life.
>
> ·         Most ancient cultures have accepted crow as the harbinger to
> guide human souls to the afterlife. The new era has brought different
> meanings of the crow as the spirit animal.
>
> ·         WHEN Crows show up it lets us to foresee that there are
> spiritual shifts happening around us and reminds us to pay attention to the
> spiritual messages sent to guide us. They represent transformation, cycles,
> psychic tools, and insight into unseen realms.
>
> ·         When two or four crows are cawing near our house, it's believed
> to get good fortune, prosperity, and abundance. When there are five crows
> around our house, people believe that illness and poor health are going to
> take place.
> ·        COUNTING CROWS:
>
> * ONE for sadness,
>                               *
> * TWO for mirth (amusement or laughter.களிப்பு; இன்ப உணர்ச்சி)
>                          THREE for marriage,
>
>  FOUR  for birth;
>                                                          FIVE for
> laughing,
>                                               SIX for crying:
>
>                         SEVEN for sickness,
>
>    EIGHT for dying;
>                                                              NINE for
> silver,
>                                                     TEN for gold;
>
>                           ELEVEN a secret that will never be told.*
>
> ·         * OMEN*: If a crow appears on the window or at the door, means
> someone near to  is going to die. *If the crow appears after the death,
> that means the dead person is reborn*.
>
> ·       Crow Symbolism
>
> Throughout history, the crow has been associated with both positive and
> negative symbolic meanings. The most common are:
>
> 1. Life magic; mystery of creation
>
> 2. Destiny, personal transformation, alchemy
>
> 3. Intelligence
>
> 4. Higher perspective
>
> 5. Being fearless, audacious
>
> 6. Flexibility, adaptability
>
> What the people think
>
> *                                               It is a **PITY** that
> this INTELLIGENT BIRD;*
>
>  *Is wronged by people in many cultures* …….may be because of its dark
> feathers resembling velvet apparel, or *because of his loud, ugly voice*,
> as a symbol of pessimism. *In general, crows are predictors of events,
> good or bad. They are treated as ancestors, as a sign of visit of
> relatives, bad luck, and scavengers.
>                     **There is so much more the** CROW** symbolizes than
> what meets the eye.*
>
> *Regards*
>
> *V.Sridharan*
>
> *Trichy*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 14 January, 2022, 09:29:31 am IST, 'gopala krishnan' via
> Thatha_Patty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> THE CROW PART 4
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I am continuing more about the crow in this part of the posting. Most of
> the information are compilation from websites.  I *wish all members a
> HAPPY PONGAL*
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gopala krishnan 14-1-2022.
> 26 Intelligence
>
> *The brain-to-body weight ratios of corvid brains are among the largest in
> birds*, equal to that of great apes
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape> and cetaceans
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean>, and only slightly lower than a
> human.
>
> Their intelligence is boosted by the long growing period of the young. By
> remaining with the parents, the young have more opportunities to learn
> necessary skills. Since most corvids are cooperative brooders, their young
> can learn from different members of the group.
>
> *When compared to dogs and cats in an* experiment testing the ability to
> seek out food according to three-dimensional clues, *corvids
> out-performed the mammals.*
>
>  A metaanalysis <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaanalysis> testing how
> often birds invented new ways to acquire food in the wild found corvids the
> most innovative birds. *A 2004 review suggests that their cognitive
> abilities are on par with those of great apes.* Despite structural
> differences, the brains of corvids and great apes both evolved the ability
> to make geometrical measurements. *Some corvids demonstrate the capacity
> for imagination, something believed to be otherwise unique to humans.*
>
> My note- I think long back our elders might  have noted it and so the
> crow is told as  representing  pithru
>
> Corvid ingenuity is represented through their feeding skills, memorization
> abilities, use of tools, and group behaviour. Living in large social groups
> has long been connected with high cognitive ability. To live in a large
> group, a member must be able to recognize individuals and track the social
> position and foraging of other members over time. Members must also be able
> to distinguish between sex, age, reproductive status, and dominance, and to
> update this information constantly. It might be that social complexity
> corresponds to their high cognition.
>
> The European Magpie <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Magpie> is one
> of the few non-mammal species known to be able to recognize itself in a mirror
> test <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test>.
>
> There are also specific examples of corvid cleverness. *One **Carrion
> Crow <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrion_Crow>** was documented to
> crack nuts by placing them on a crosswalk*, letting the passing cars
> crack the shell, waiting for the light to turn red, and then safely
> retrieving the contents.
>
> *My note- This phenomena appeared in a group posting also.*
>
>  A group of crows in England took turns lifting garbage bin lids while
> their companions collected food.
>
> Members of the corvid family have been known to watch other birds,
> remember where they hide their food, then return once the owner leaves.
>
>  Corvids also move their food around between hiding places to avoid
> thievery, but only if they have previously been thieves themselves i.e*.,
> they remember previous relevant social contexts*, use their own
> experience of having been a thief to predict the behavior of a pilferer,
> and can determine the safest course to protect their caches from being
> pilfered. Studies to assess similar cognitive abilities in apes have been
> inconclusive.
>
> The ability to hide food requires highly accurate spatial memories.
> Corvids have been recorded to recall their food's hiding place up to nine
> months later. It is suggested that vertical landmarks (like trees) are used
> to remember locations. There has also been evidence that Western
> Scrub-Jays <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Scrub-Jay>, which store
> perishable foods, not only remember where they stored their food, but for
> how long. This has been compared to episodic memory, previously thought
> unique to humans.
>
>  *27 Darwin’s theory- Crow has developed intelligence among birds*
>
> During the 19th century there arose the belief that *crows were the 'most
> advanced' birds*, based upon the belief that Darwinian evolution brings
> 'progress'. In such a classification the 'most intelligent' of birds were
> listed last reflecting their position 'atop the pyramid'. Modern
> biologists somehow reject the concept of hierarchical 'progress' in
> evolution.
>
>  28Crow-Relationship with humans
>
> Several different corvids, particularly ravens
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven>, have occasionally served as pets
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets>, although they are not able to speak
> as readily as parrots <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot> and do not
> like being caged
>
>  29   120 Species in raven family
>
>  Corvidae is a cosmopolitan family of oscine passerine birds that contains
> the crows, ravens, rooks, jackdaws, jays, magpies, treepies, choughs and
> nutcrackers.The common English names used are corvids or the crow family,
> and there are over 120 species. The genus Corvus, including the jackdaws,
> crows and ravens, makes up over a third of the entire family.
>
> 30. Kakkasseri Bhattathiri
>
>  He was a person who could understand what the crows talked and
> communicate with them. He could identify the crows coming regularly,
> occasionally etc.
>
>  *31 Vocalisation of crows*
>
>  Crows make a wide variety of calls or vocalizations. Whether the crows'
> system of communication constitutes a language is a topic of debate and
> study. *Crows have also been observed to respond to calls of other
> species*; This behaviour is presumably learned because it varies
> regionally. Crows' vocalizations are complex and poorly understood. Some of
> the many vocalizations that crows make are a "Koww", usually echoed back
> and forth between birds, a series of "Kowws" in discrete units, counting
> out numbers, a long caw followed by a series of short caws usually made
> when a bird takes off from a perch.
>
>  *Crows can hear sound frequencies lower than those that humans can hear,
> which complicate the* study of their vocalizations.
>
>  Loud, throaty "caw-aw-ah"'s are usually used to indicate hunger or to
> mark territory. When defending a nest site or food, crows will usually
> enlarge their crest feathers and hunch their shoulders to increase their
> size. Softer, gurgling sounds have also been observed as a sort of
> beckoning call, or a call of affection. These noises are emitted from
> within the throat of the bird, much like a cat's purring.
>
>  *32. Human identification*
>
>  Recent research suggests that crows have the ability to recognize one
> individual human from another by facial features. (Totally a new
> information read from wikipedia)
>
> 33. Crows in culture and mythology
>
>  Crows, and especially ravens, often feature in European legends or
> mythology as portents or harbingers of *doom or death*, because of their
> dark plumage, unnerving calls, and tendency to eat carrion (including those
> of humans). *They are commonly thought to circle above scenes of death
> such as battles.*
>
> In occult circles, distinctions are sometimes made between crows and
> ravens. *In mythology and folklore as a whole, crows tend to be symbolic
> more of the spiritual aspect of death, or the transition of the spirit into
> the afterlife *, whereas ravens tend more often to be associated with the
> negative (physical) aspect of death.
>
> Another reason for this distinction is that while crows are typically
> highly social animals, *ravens don't seem to congregate in large numbers*
> anywhere but:
>
>
>
> Near carrion where they meet seemingly by chance, or   At cemeteries,
> where large numbers sometimes live together, even though   carrion there
> is no more available (and probably less attainable) than any   road or
> field.
>
> *34 The white crow become black- story*
>
>  In classical Greek mythology, when the crow told the god Apollo that his
> lover Coronis was cheating on him with a mortal, he became very angry, and
> part of that anger was directed at the crow, *whose feathers he turned
> from white to black.*
>
>
>
> *So there is  some truth  in telling vellakakka malarnnu parannu. (White
> crow flew body upside down) in Malayalam.*
>
> *35Balikakka*
>  In Hinduism, it is believed that people who died will take food and
> offerings through a variety of crows called "Bali kakka".
>
> Every year people whose parents or relatives died will offer food to crows
> as well as cows. This is  on the sraaddha day for Brahmins.
>
> *36 Battle between owls and crows*
>
>  A battle between crows and owls is said to have inspired the final night
> of the Mahabharatha war.
>
>  *37 In Buddhisam*
>
>  In Buddhism, the Dharmapala (protector of the Dharma) Mahakala is
> represented by a crow in one of his physical/ earthly forms.
>
>  38* Dalailama and crow*
>
>  alokiteśvara, who is reincarnated on Earth as the Dalai Lama, is often
> closely associated with the crow because it is said that when the first
> Dalai Lama was born, robbers attacked the family home. The parents fled and
> were unable to get to the infant Lama in time. When they returned the next
> morning expecting the worst, they found their home untouched, *and a pair
> of crows was caring for the Dalai Lama*. It is believed that crows
> heralded the birth of the First, Seventh, Eighth, Twelfth and Fourteenth
> Lamas, the latter being the current Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso.
>
> *39 Chinese mythology*
>
> In Chinese mythology, *the world originally had ten suns embodied as ten
> crows,* which rose in the sky one at a time. When all ten decided to rise
> at once, the effect was devastating to crops, so the gods sent their
> greatest archer *Houyi, who shot down nine crows and spared only one*.
> Having a "crow beak" is a symbolic expression that one is being a jinx.
>
> *This is the final and concluding part of the posting on the  crows*
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