Pranam

1   It all from SINDHU THAI; which was never read by anyone; some idiot
commented that Sindhu Tai is in Pakistan now as usual out of crankiness,
which is being exclusively praised silently by all while forgetting to
thank even the righteousness the dharma, which is being written about here
straying away from Sindhu Tai.

2  A woman who suffered and was narrated by a Radhe swami so dramatically,
which attracted all those sitting there, taking notes, which revealed the
status of the youth as revealed in my YouTube which is also not seen by
anyone. Elders who do not know how to thank, lose the right to direct their
wards about Good teachings; vedaiyondru pottal very marama mulaikum?; what
one sow alone one can reap.

3  The Sindu Tai is a woman of national pride. So many women all around our
land. So many men had suffered equally to raise a greater platform too. But
the youth are not aware of them, because of not their fault; it is the
fault of their parents; a father like Narayanaswamy who always remembers
all nonsenses of envy and relishing his Geetha as a tonal rejuvenation, in
the group remaining silent, and those who do not know to thank even a small
token of guidance but remain silent spookily, are all the leads who desire
the greatness of the nation, verbally but never reciprocated in action
anything till date.  This part of the ignorance threw away the posterity
far off from the clusters of Hinduism. Hinduism again is not from the
Sanskrit word as the word Hindu, Hinduism etc are never found in any Vedas
or Upanishads or Niruktam or any epics and other scriptures.

4    Sindu in Rig vedam mentioned in many places, does mean a sea, a vast
water space. Vedas never mentioned who they were described as; yet the
tribes names like Jataveda, Yavana, etc mentioned in there with the names
arising out of the professions or territory alone is known to us. But
certainly, the sanathana dharma which is NOTHING BUT HOW TO LIVE GRACEFULLY
AND DIE is dharma. Dharma is not defined and hence differs from creature to
creature and from place to place, without any deep division but by small
apertural aberrations only. DHARMA IS UNIVERSAL; DHARMA GIVES THE
INDEPENDENCE TO MOVE OFF AND ON; DHARMA TEACHES THE REASONS FOR FALL AND
THE grace of conduct to retrieve. Ramayanam speaks of the dharma of a
monkey and the dharma of a man. But that cult alone in Upanishads spoke
about the EQUALITY OF ALL SPECIES IRRESPECTIVE SINGLE CELL TO HUMAN. In
short dharma can be different, varying in small measures, but the species
are equal even without difference between Vishnu and Garuda. One can read
VISHNU PURANAM as well as GARUDA PURANAM.

 5  Tirumular said {[(he is a brahmin and not a Dalit; and all those born
to shudra woman is shudra also and definitely not Tiruvalluvar which is a
nick name only ; and no one knows his identity; and Narayanaswamy should go
to Singapore Tamil Peravai and shout his words and he would be shown the
right place. Never show the smiling face to idiots which silence paves the
way for rowdyism. Even the best change out of demerited quantum being
extracted out of them.}], wood and elephant are one and the same but to
those who see the wood the elephant is hidden and to those who see the
elephant, the wood is hidden; so all the VISHNU, SIVAN, BRAHMAN AND 33
MILLION SARGUNA GODS AND GODDESSES MERGE INTO THAT UNKNOWN UNSEEN BRAHMAM;
one cannot see oneself unless there is a reflection; perception is seeing
through the inner mind as seeing in a mirror; hence only aham Brahmasmi and
the Tat tvam asi denote that brahmam cannot see by brahmam,hence kandavar
vindilar vindavar kandilar; one revealed had not seen IT.

6   VG: Gratitude as being spoken of, these days has always been the key
element of Hindu customs. *The Sun, the moon, the earth, and the whole
universe has always been prayed to and acknowledged for their existence and
presence in the human body in Hinduism. *I The truth remains that today
with increasing levels of spirituality these practises make sense. Fasting
and vegetarianism are the other key features of living a life embedded in
dharma (righteousness). By observing these practises, Hindus pay respect to
divinity present within all forms of life. And this fad of fasting and
vegetarianism is catching up worldwide as there is scientific evidence to
sustain these theories.

          Hinduism is a way of life, a dharma. Dharma does not mean
religion; it is the law that governs all action. Hinduism was not founded
by one person, it does not have a core doctrine, there is no central
authority, it does not require followers to accept any one idea, and no one
can agree on when or even where it began.

                        Brahman is the impersonal ultimate reality or world
soul.  All beings are part of Brahman and Brahman is likewise part of all
things

                       which is called "dharma".

7      (Tat Tvam Asi) " :  Advaita exegesis of the rnahäväkya That Thou Art
(tat tvam asi)" from the CHANDOGYA UPANISHAD,  is nothing but there is no
difference in perceptions of a Gnani when one sees all as equal; it shall
mean there is no difference between the single cell or the human beings,
including all the species in between which Vishnu puranam states as{जलज  नव
लक्षाणि सत्वर लक्ष विम्सति कर्मयो रुद्र संक्याक पक्षिणं दस लक्षणं त्रिंसल्
लक्षाणि पासव चतुर लक्षाणि मनुष} : “ jalaja nava lakshani, sthavara
laksha-vimshati, krimayo rudra-sankhyakah, pakshinam dasha-lakshanam,
trinshal-lakshani pashavah, chatur lakshani manavah”----The rundown as per
the above verse is as follows {These facts are found also in Brahma kandan
chap 26 to 29 of the Skanda Puranam, Garuda Puranam and Mahabhartha
anusasana parva repeated as varied verses}:

Jalaja (Aquatics) - 0.9 million

Sthavara (Plants and Trees) - 2.0 million

Krimayo (Reptiles) - 1.1 million

Pakshinam (Birds) - 1.0 million

Pashavah (Land animals) - 3.0 million

Manavah (Human-like animals) - 0.4 million

Total = 8.4 million

7A    And one will wonder the calibre of the ancestors when the world
science brought about the similar figure in 2011 as under in SCIENCE TODAY
REPORTED:

Eight million, seven hundred thousand species (give or take 1.3 million).

That is a new, estimated total number of species on Earth -- the most
precise calculation ever offered -- with 6.5 million species found on land
and 2.2 million (about 25 percent of the total) dwelling in the ocean
depths.(8.7 million).

Announced today by Census of Marine Life scientists, the figure is based on
an innovative, validated analytical technique that dramatically narrows the
range of previous estimates. Until now, the number of species on Earth was
said to fall somewhere between 3 million and 100 million.

Furthermore, the study, published by *PLoS Biology*, says a staggering 86%
of all species on land and 91% of those in the seas have yet to be
discovered, described and catalogued.

Says lead author Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii and Dalhousie
University in Halifax, Canada: "The question of how many species exist has
intrigued scientists for centuries and the answer, coupled with research by
others into species' distribution and abundance, is particularly important
now because a host of human activities and influences are accelerating the
rate of extinctions. Many species may vanish before we even know of their
existence, of their unique niche and function in ecosystems, and of their
potential contribution to improved human well-being."

"This work deduces the most basic number needed to describe our living
biosphere," says co-author Boris Worm of Dalhousie University. "If we did
not know -- even by an order of magnitude (1 million? 10 million? 100
million?) -- the number of people in a nation, how would we plan for the
future?"

"It is the same with biodiversity. Humanity has committed itself to saving
species from extinction, but until now we have had little real idea of even
how many there are."

Dr. Worm notes that the recently-updated Red List issued by the
International Union for the Conservation of Nature assessed 59,508 species,
of which 19,625 are classified as threatened. This means the IUCN Red List,
the most sophisticated ongoing study of its kind, monitors less than 1% of
world species.

The research is published alongside a commentary by Lord Robert May of
Oxford, past-president of the UK's Royal Society, who praises the
researchers' "imaginative new approach.

8      Explained as a discussion between father and son Uddalaka and
Swethakethu, it starts at Ch u 6.8.7. The term "tat", according to Adi
Shankara, indicates “Being”, the ground of the entire universe. It is that
which is real, eternal and immortal. The word "tvam" indicates Svetaketu
one who was exposed to the teaching, as between KRISHNA AND ARJUNAN ; AS
BETWEEN FATHER TEACHING THE tvam is only TAT. Swetha ketu is a symbol as
Arjuna; Uddalaka and Krishna are the permanent teachers of the Vedas as
concise upanishads to the universe.

9    This represents “any person’ who, being entitled to be the hearer, the
ponderer and the knower, - had not reached the  true nature of his own
self, as Being, the “self of all” as distinct from all aggregates of causes
and effects, - which - as the Supreme Deity, - had entered into the
aggregate of causes and effects made up of Fire, Water and Food, for the
differentiating of Names and Forms, - just as a man enters the mirror, as
his own reflection, or the sun enters into the water and other reflecting
surfaces, as its own reflection; - 'That Thou Art', through a number of
illustrations and reasons that 'I am Being itself'. The result of this
instruction, according to Shankara, is the elimination of the notion of
doership and enjoyership in respect of the Self. The knowledge imparted by
the mahäväkya is incompatible with Svetaketu' s previous notions of himself
and displaces the latter. The primary meaning of "tat" is Consciousness in
association with the attributes of omnipotence, omniscience, creatorship,
etc; in other words isvara or saguna brahman (brahman with qualities).
Consciousness unassociated with these upädhis (nirguna brahman) is the
implied meaning of "tat". Similarly, Consciousness associated with
individual ignorance and the qualities of limited knowledge and powers of
action is the primary meaning of "tvam". In other words, the individual
(jiva). The implied meaning is again pure Consciousness. This conflict of
primary meanings leads to the positing of identity at the level of pure
Consciousness, free from the superimpositions of jivahood and isvarahood.

10     Shankara categorically denies any interpretation of "tat tvam asi"
other than the absolute identity of ätman and brahman. The mahäväkya
asserts a definite identity. Nor is it to be conceived figuratively  as in
the sentence, "You are a lion".. "Tat tvam asi" is also not a mere eulogy
(stuti). Shankara concludes, there is no other way of understanding the
mahäväkya. Shankara makes out for sruti as the only pramäna of brahman. His
rationale is firmly grounded in the argument that because of the very
nature of Brahman, knowledge through any other  pramäna is inconceivable.
The maha vakya, affords further insights into the way HE regarded the sruti
and its capacity to produce brahma-jnäna.

11     In this sense, the words of the sruti are not unlike those of the
passer-by who "produced" the tenth man. We cannot overemphasise the
connection between Shankara's arguments for the effectiveness of sruti as a
pramana, and his view of the ätman as always available and accomplished.
The significance of this distinction is further highlighted by one of the
key grounds for his distinction between the karmakända (NORMAL LIFE A
MUNDANE LIFE) and the jnänakända (BECOMING A VIVEKI). The former does not
fulfil itself in the knowledge or information which it provides. {FOR HIM
Garuda is different from Vishnu only}. It tells us of the means for the
achievement of ends not  yet actualized. The Gnanakanda, on the other hand,
fulfils  itself in its informative or revelatory role, for its object (the
ätman) is already available. This end is accomplished through the grasping
of  the purport (tätparya) of the words which constitute the pramäna. There
is no suggestion here that Shankara conceives the knowledge gained from
inquiry (jijnäsä)( word from the Brahma sutra) into  the words of the sruti
as provisional or hypothetical. There  is no indication that it can or
needs to be confirmed by any  other source of knowledge. Shankara' s case
for the competence  of the sruti as a pramana includes a view about the
 particular methods employed by sruti for overcoming the  limitations of
the words it is constrained to use. Sruti  is unfolded by specific
traditional methods of teaching, and we sought to highlight some of these
in the concluding sections of our discussion. Words must be wielded in a
manner which frees them from their limited denotations.

12    Saguna Brahmam is all entities since the mortality is only variable
in the path of the Srishti to Pralaya where each species would pass off; at
the end even Siva, Vishnu and Brahma and all other Saguna Gods will merge
into that Brahmam. So, there is no difference in the perception of a Gnani
between anything or else, Can Durvasa be able to kick at Vishnu? And in
turn, Vishnu who took offence to Sisupala, did not look at the same
reaction to Durvasa. When Subramanya Bharathi was striding against an
elephant, equating himself as Brahmam to elephant also as a Brahmam, for
second forgot that the same Brahmam sitting on the elephant, was asking him
to move also. Brahmam would respect a Brahmam as Vishnu and Durvasa; the
disrespect shown by agnani thinking as Brahmam, is annihilated by the
Brahmam as a Sisupala.

13      In short B G explained this as:
*सुहृन्मित्रार्युदासीनमध्यस्थद्वेष्यबन्धुषु* *|*
*साधुष्वपि* *च* *पापेषु* *समबुद्धिर्विशिष्यते* *|| **9**||
*suhṛin-mitrāryudāsīna-madhyastha-dveṣhya-bandhuṣhu
sādhuṣhvapi cha pāpeṣhu sama-buddhir viśhiṣhyate//  *BG 6.9*: The yogis
look upon all—well-wishers, friends, foes, the pious, and the sinners—with
an impartial intellect. The yogi who is of equal intellect toward friend,
companion, and foe, neutral among enemies and relatives, and unbiased
between the righteous and sinful, is considered to be distinguished among
humans. *इहैव* *तैर्जित**: **सर्गो* *येषां* *साम्ये* *स्थितं* *मन**: **| *
*निर्दोषं* *हि* *समं* *ब्रह्म* *तस्माद्* *ब्रह्मणि* *ते* *स्थिता**: **|| *
*19**|| *ihaiva tair jitaḥ sargo yeṣhāṁ sāmye sthitaṁ manaḥ nirdoṣhaṁ hi
samaṁ brahma tasmād brahmaṇi te sthitāḥ // *BG 5.19*: Those whose minds are
established in equality of vision conquer the cycle of birth and death in
this very life. They possess the flawless qualities of God and are
therefore seated in the Absolute Truth. यो मां पश्यति सर्वत्र सर्वं च मयि
पश्यति । तस्याहं न प्रणश्यामि स च मे न प्रणश्यति ॥ ३० ॥ yo māṁ paśyati
sarvarta  sarvaṁ ca mayi paśyati tasyāhaṁ na praṇaśyāmi sa ca me na
praṇaśyati  //  For one who sees Me everywhere and sees everything in Me, I
am never lost, nor is he ever lost to Me. (6.30). समं सर्वेषु भूतेषु
तिष्ठन्तं परमेश्वरम्। विनश्यत्स्वविनश्यन्तं यः पश्यति स पश्यति।।13.28।।
13.28 He sees who sees the supreme Lord as existing early in all beings,
and as the Imperishable among the perishable. (Includes all species
including the Saguna Brahmam). (KR IRS 23/01/22.)

14      Hinduism, Hindu and Hindutva Hindutva are all words of
colloquiality to identify the whole in a sector, coined from the British
who were perplexed to know who the Indians are.  The equity among the
species as all are equal, varied in the principles of the Dhama, the way of
life, where again swadharmam preached is the pathway to way finder. TRUTH
IS ONE BUT GNANIS NAMED IT AS MANY AS YAGNA VALKYA WAS DESCRIBING ABOUT THE
GODS IN Brihadaranyaka upanishad.

15    There is a grievance that he may be the knower and it does not show
the way to retell. But does one talk similarly against the sadhus?. NO why
not? Those mental strains are cast away knowing the weakness; but if it is
the wife showing the path of righteousness, then the ego would arise where
the wife is measured as below par, but for which the anger cannot burst
out. It is the complexity. Also another complexity is that of a woman who
addresses all as BROTHERS thinking brothers will protect; but they fail to
understand or understands by paying the price, when the brothers are shades
of black; and so that tactics of subduing oneself so low is also
unwarranted. All are students; some speak; many remain silent out of
shyness; but one thing is far sure; all are not equal, and no one is
greater than any. Satyam vadha and dharmam chara means to be bold to
admonish the wrong and not what one considers(presumes) it as wrong (ulagam
pazhithathu). Staying off the truth is also telling a lie; By mano, vak and
Kaya one shall behave. The rules of dharma are universal; what applies in
India does apply to one in the USA; the Vedic Brahmanic mouth eats only the
rice produced by the foot-born shudra, and by washing with water the shudra
smell cannot be scented away. Birth of a child does not vary between the
mother of a Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vysya and shudra; it is the same; mutation
is only in the acts; and not on the causes. Samskara is not great when the
Samskritam is ignored but repeated as told unaware of what does it mean;
but the samskrithi of dharma the swadharmam is being courageous acquiring
the rights to teach the level 2 to bottom; meditation if it helps the mind
shall reveal what is said here as correct, if not go along to the cycle of
births and deaths. Thank you

KR IRS 25122

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 01:47, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

> *RESPECTED SIR/s*
>
>                                     * Hinduism is the oldest living major
> religion of the world. In present times, fanaticism has overshadowed the
> Hinduism philosophy. Hinduism according to historians is more of a
> religious tradition rather than a religion which upon observation seems
> correct. *
>
> *            Hinduism relies heavily upon rituals and ceremonies for its
> identity.  But in truth Hinduism is a diverse system of thoughts and
> beliefs. It involves seeking awareness of God and its notable beliefs
> relate to reincarnation, karma (moral law of cause and effect), dharma
> (righteousness), yoga (paths and practices) and Moksha (Salvation).*
>
> *            Hinduism involves worshipping idols of various gods and
> goddesses. It includes many ceremonies related to birth and death. It
> comprises rituals which are practiced on a daily basis. The list  goes on
> endlessly is too long to fully comprehend.*
> *                                                           For the Hindus
> across the world, their faith provides them ample freedom to choose the
> object of devotion and surrender to its power. This religion imparts enough
> evidence through scriptures, Vedas and Puranas for its beliefs and
> practices. The epics, Mahabharat and Ramayan, extol the virtues of Hinduism
> through the vast repertoire of parables.*
> *                        Today the practice of yoga is gaining ground
> across the geographical boundary which is another reflection of goal of
> life as defined in Hindu scriptures.  The spiritual laws as defined in
> Hindu philosophy is being slowly embraced by the enlightened world.*
> *                                                       Gratitude as being
> spoken of, these days has always been the key element of Hindu customs. The
> Sun, the moon, the earth, and the whole universe has always been prayed to
> and acknowledged for their existence and presence in human body in
> Hinduism. I The truth remains that today with increasing levels of
> spirituality these practices make sense. Fasting and vegetarianism are the
> other key features of living a life embedded in dharma (righteousness). By
> observing these practices, Hindus pay respect to divinity present within
> all forms of life. And this fad of fasting and vegetarianism is catching up
> worldwide as there is scientific evidence to sustain these theories.*
> *                        Hinduism is a way of life, a dharma. Dharma does
> not mean religion; it is the law that governs all action. Hinduism was not
> founded by one person, it does not have a core doctrine, there is no
> central authority, it does not require followers to accept any one idea,
> and no one can agree on when or even where it began.*
>
> *Rivers are revered, mountains are respected, and monasticism is
> widespread, pilgrimages are inherent, festivals are symbolic; Hinduism is a
> vast reservoir of scriptures, customs, beliefs and rituals which cannot be
> articulated in few words.*
>
> *As first Vice President of India, Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, rightly
> stated, Hinduism is not just a faith, but in itself is related to the union
> of reason and intuition. He explicitly stated that Hinduism cannot be
> explained, but is only to be experienced.*
>
>   The birthplace of Hinduism is Indus River Valley which runs through
> northwest India into Pakistan.  The Indus Valley civilization, or "Harappan
> civilization" originated sometime around 4,500-5,000 B.C.E. and reached its
> zenith between 2300 to 2000 BC.  The two major known cities of the Indus
> Valley civilization were Harappa and Mohenjodaro. Harrappa was first
> excavated in 1921.  These cities indicate a centralized state with
> extensive town planning, common construction techniques, regular weights
> and measures, as well as trade, farming and domesticated animals.
>
> *                                  The word "Hindu" originates from the
> Sanskrit word for river, sindhu.  The Indus River running through northwest
> India into Pakistan received its name from the Sanskrit term sindhu.  The
> Persians designated the land around the Indus River as Hindu, a
> mispronunciation of the Sanskrit sindhu.  In 1921 archaeologists uncovered
> evidence of an ancient civilization along the Indus River, which today is
> dated to around 3300BC and thought to represent one of the largest centers
> of human habitation in the ancient world. The Indus Valley Civilization
> extend quite far from the banks of the Indus River including parts of
> contemporary Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and India.  Scholars believe that
> the Indus Valley Civilization had begun to decline by 1800BC, possibly due
> to climate change.  Because of its location between the Indian Subcontinent
> and the Iranian plateau, the area has seen many military invasions
> including Alexander the Great, the Persian empire, and the Kushan empire.
> In 712AD, the Muslims invaded the Indus Valley. To distinguish themselves,
> they called all non-Muslims  as Hindus.*
> *                         Hindus have diverse beliefs about gods.  Hindus
> hold that there is one supreme God--Brahman.  Brahman is the impersonal
> ultimate reality or world soul.  All beings are part of Brahman and Brahman
> is likewise part of all things.  Humans cannot describe or comprehend
> Brahman.  However, there are numerous gods and goddesses in Hinduism.
> These gods represent aspects of the One Supreme God. An important trio of
> these appearances of Brahman, sometimes called the Hindu trinity of
> Brahman, consists of the creator (Brahma), the preserver (Vishnu), and
> destroyer (Shiva) of the universe.  Though Brahma is the creator, he is the
> minor god of the three and is said to have gown in a lotus out of the navel
> of the sleeping Vishnu.  He has four heads, but once had one, grew four
> more, and then lost one.  Vishnu is the god of duration, preservation, and
> of natural cycles.  Vishnu's completeness and greatness exceeds the other
> three gods because he contains every possible contradiction and in
> consequence.  Hindus often portray Vishnu dressed lavishly and having four
> arms. Vishnu usually carries his symbols in his hands and often has a U
> shaped symbol on his forehead.  Shiva is the aspect of perpetual change,
> destruction, and transition.  Shiva, also known as the "good One," is more
> complex than Vishnu. Hindus often portray Shiva as sitting upon a tiger or
> panther skin, having three white horizontal stripes upon his forehead, and
> a third vertical eye. Shiva's vertical eye gives light to the world.
> Another popular Hindu God is Ganesha, who is easily identified by his
> elephant head.  Hindus characterize Ganesha as the Remover of Obstacles,
> the Lord of Beginnings, and/or the Lord of Obstacles.  Ganesha is also deva
> (god) of intellect and wisdom and the patron of arts and sciences.*
>
> *Hindus hold diverse beliefs about the origins of life and the universe.
> Many believe the universe is recreated in karmic cycles.  Many believe in
> Brahma as a Creator God.*
> *    Hindu religious practices consist of living in the right way, which
> is called "dharma".  In general, right living includes worshiping God or
> gods, doing good works,  going on pilgrimages to the holy places, and
> learning through meditation, yoga.----RegardsV.SridharanTrichy*
> On Monday, 24 January, 2022, 04:19:21 pm IST, 'gopala krishnan' via
> iyer123 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Very interesting to read the last line sir
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Monday, 24 January, 2022, 03:16:59 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> We no longer have a Hindusthan or a Sindhuthai or even an Indus Valley
> civilisation.  With Partition we are left with Ganga-Thai.  Even the
> Brahmaputhra Valley and Tibet are Chinese, not to mention Aksai Chin, parts
> of Ladakh and parts of Arunachal Pradesh.
>
> In time to come, we shall be left with the Cauveri Valley and with
> Thamizhthaai.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On 24 Jan 2022, at 5:04 PM, Sundara Rajan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/abmsniEmfh0
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