Pranam

WHAT IS I/YOU/HE/SHE/WE/IT/THEY/MICRO/MACRO

1      The question is what we become after death?  Nachiketan gave the
right answer. However, what is birth and death and what are the compounds
of those?

2    Combinations of atoms with the 23 elements is the dead wood
structure.  Rather it comprises a miniscule element containing the 213
elements, sent through to form a body, without life but enclosed with the
energy dormant but active, is enlivened by the soul and the mind abstracts.

3       All the elements of nature exist everywhere; There is no difference
between the ultimate enjoyer and the supreme controller. To presuppose any
distinction between them is senseless. Ordinary knowledge is simply a
quality of material nature, not of the soul proper. The raw substance of
material nature is designated according to its different phases. In the
mode of goodness, it is known as knowledge, in the mode of passion as
activity, and in the mode of darkness as ignorance. Time is another name of
the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and another name for material
propensity is *sūtra* or *mahat-tattva.* The twenty-five elements {23+2=23
elements plus the soul and the mind} of nature are the Lord (soul) , nature
(Prakriti) , the mahat(world)*,* false ego(I ) , ether, air, fire, water,
earth, the eyes, the ears, the nose, the tongue, the skin, speech, the
hands, the feet, the genitals, the anus, the mind,(manas)  sound, touch,
form, taste and smell. AND THIS IS LIFE. LIFE OF ANY SPECIE.

4      Material nature, which is under the control of the Supreme Lord,
then assumes the forms of causes and effects and carries out the creation,
maintenance and destruction of the material world. Even though the *puruṣa*
 and *prakṛti* appear indifferent to superficial vision, there is an
ultimate difference between the two. Material creation is produced from the
modes of *prakṛti,* and its quality is transformation. The living entities
who are inimical to the Supreme Personality of Godhead take on and give up
various kinds of material bodies through the agency of their own material
work. But those who are ignorant of the self, because of being bewildered
by illusion, do not understand this. The mind, which is filled with ideas
of fruitive work, simply takes the senses with it from one body to another,
while the soul follows along. Nevertheless, on account of being totally
absorbed in sense gratification, one cannot remember his past existence

5     The body undergoes nine stages of manifestation, which are brought
about by association with the qualities of material nature. These are
impregnation, gestation, birth, childhood, youth, maturity, middle age, old
age and death. From the death of one’s father and the birth of one’s son, a
person can easily comprehend the rise and fall of his own body. The soul,
who is the perceiver, is different from this body. But when there is no
knowledge of the true facts, the living entity, confused by the objects of
sense gratification, achieves his destinations within the cycle of material
existence. Thus, the living entity continuously wanders under the spell of
material work, taking birth as a sage or a demigod when he is predominated
by the mode of goodness, among the demons or human beings when he is
predominantly influenced by the mode of passion, and in the species of
ghosts, spirits, or animals when he is predominated by the mode of
ignorance. The spirit soul does not engage in the enjoyment of sense
objects; rather, it is the senses that perform this activity. Therefore,
the living being has no actual need for sense gratificatory pleasures. With
the exception of those peaceful personalities who have taken shelter of the
lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and are dedicated to the
divine duty of His service, everyone, including so-called learned scholars,
is inevitably overcome by the all-powerful material nature.

6     prakṛtir guṇa-sāmyaṁ vai  prakṛter nātmano guṇāḥ  sattvaṁ rajas tama
iti  sthity-utpatty-anta-hetavaḥ--Nature exists originally as the
equilibrium of the three material modes, which pertain only to nature, not
to the transcendental spirit soul. These modes — goodness, passion and
ignorance — are the effective causes of the creation, maintenance and
destruction of this universe. (Smd Bhagavatham 11.22.12).

7    dhyāyan mano ’nu viṣayān dṛṣṭān vānuśrutān atha udyat sīdat
karma-tantraṁ smṛtis tad anu śāmyati—(Bhagavatham 11  22 38). The mind,
bound to the reactions of fruitive work, always meditates on the objects of
the senses, both those that are seen in this world and those that are heard
about from Vedic authority. Consequently, the mind appears to come into
being and to suffer annihilation along with its objects of perception, and
thus its ability to distinguish past and future is lost.

8    viṣayābhiniveśena nātmānaṁ yat smaret punaḥ jantor vai kasyacid dhetor
mṛtyur atyanta-vismṛtiḥ---When the living entity passes from the present
body to the next body, which is created by his own karma, he becomes
absorbed in the pleasurable and painful sensations of the new body and
completely forgets the experience of the previous body. This total
forgetfulness of one’s previous material identity, which comes about for
one reason or another, is called death.  (smd Bhagavatham 11  22  39)

9      yathārciṣāṁ srotasāṁ ca phalānāṁ vā vanaspateḥ tathaiva
sarva-bhūtānāṁ vayo-’vasthādayaḥ kṛtāḥ (smd bhagavatam 11  22  44). The
different stages of transformation of all material bodies occur just like
those of the flame of a candle, the current of a river, or the fruits of a
tree.  Although the illumination of a lamp consists of innumerable rays of
light undergoing constant creation, transformation and destruction, a
person with illusory intelligence who sees the light for a moment will
speak falsely, saying, “This is the light of the lamp.” As one observes a
flowing river, ever-new water passes by and goes far away, yet a foolish
person, observing one point in the river, falsely states, “This is the
water of the river.” Similarly, although the material body of a human being
is constantly undergoing transformation, those who are simply wasting their
lives falsely think and say that each particular stage of the body is the
person’s real identity.

10    Impregnation, gestation, birth, infancy, childhood, youth, middle
age, old age and death are the nine ages of the body.( 11  22  47
Bhagavatam).  By the death of one’s father or grandfather one can surmise
one’s own death, and by the birth of one’s son one can understand the
condition of one’s own birth. A person who thus realistically understands
the creation and destruction of material bodies is no longer subject to
these dualities. (SB 11 22 49).

11     Even though neglected, insulted, ridiculed or envied by bad men, or
even though repeatedly agitated by being beaten, tied up or deprived of
one’s occupation, spat upon or polluted with urine by ignorant people, one
who desires the highest goal in life should in spite of all these
difficulties use his intelligence to keep himself safe on the spiritual
platform. (SB 11 22 58,59).  kṣipto ’vamānito ’sadbhiḥ
pralabdho ’sūyito ’tha vā tāḍitaḥ sanniruddho vā
vṛttyā vā parihāpitaḥ niṣṭhyuto mūtrito vājñair bahudhaivaṁ prakampitaḥ
śreyas-kāmaḥ kṛcchra-gata  ātmanātmānam uddharet

kṣiptaḥ
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insulted; avamānitaḥ
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neglected; asadbhiḥ
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bad men; pralabdhaḥ
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ridiculed; asūyitaḥ
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envied; atha <https://vedabase.io/en/search/synonyms/?original=atha> vā
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tāḍitaḥ
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—
chastised; sanniruddhaḥ
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tied up; vā <https://vedabase.io/en/search/synonyms/?original=v%C4%81> —
or; vṛttyā
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his means of livelihood; vā
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deprived; niṣṭhyutaḥ
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spat upon; mūtritaḥ
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polluted with urine; vā
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foolish men; bahudhā
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repeatedly; evam <https://vedabase.io/en/search/synonyms/?original=evam> —
thus; prakampitaḥ
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agitated; śreyaḥ
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who desires the highest goal in life; kṛcchra
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experiencing difficulty; ātmanā
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his intelligence; ātmānam
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himself; uddharet
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12    Hence “we” is a Maya; (so too it, she, he,they, etc micro macro etc).
There was nothing as an identifier that existed anywhere; and at the same
time as souls all including the manifestations existed which Arjuna
Jeevatma forgets, while the oneness Mahatma can remember. We the prakriti
becomes the indestructible Maya, a shirt, waiting to be worn by any soul.
Soul is indestructive as the mind living together to enter and exit. Hence
the matter is live; the operative parts soul and the mind is live; all are
projected into one and divide out of that one as water divides and unites
as different and one sheath. Same events keep arising in a cycle, where
what goes up comes down and vice-versa. It is a hide and seek game, where
when one sees the head shouts Eureka and when hidden is in search of .
Virtually there is neither birth nor death truly but a virtual drama is
going on. KR IRS 9/2/22

On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 06:25, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> *Mar**The Macro Psychology*
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> We are all part of nature, which means that we are part of the planet
> earth, part of the Solar System, part of the Milky way and finally part of
> the Universe, all of which actually are directing every move we make in our
> lives, thanks to quantum entanglement at the ultimate core level, the sub
> atomic particle level. There is a gigantic Determinism, impacting on us but
> we are not helpless. The same particle entanglement, gives us a wonderful
> opportunity for individual determinations. Our own actions have quantum
> entanglement effects.
>
> If we live symbiotically with nature, the gigantic Universe or simply God,
> will team with us. But if we erect all sorts of techno fetters and begin
> destroying nature, we are actually pitting the Universe itself against us.
> We need our bodies, as the most sensitive bodies, to the whole universe,
> which the symbiotic feeling with nature gives, from the core sub atomic
> particle level.
>
> Our nervous system and the internal hormonal communication system cannot
> team up with machines, but only with living nature. We have to realize that
> there is no subject matter that submits docilely to our predications, like
> putty without voice or interaction. Like a small prick that affects our
> whole body, the Universe too, thanks to quantum entanglement, responds to
> our actions.
>
> We are living in the Universe, which functions as one body, with the
> ultimate nervous system, governed by Quantum entanglement. We don’t need
> wormholes in the space, so that we can cut the gigantic distances and
> traverse galaxies in vehicles, built like mini earths. The Universe simply
> does not allow us to be always, the earthlings. Your thoughts and also your
> sensing via breathing, smelling and perceiving, have a huge component of
> nature as a participant.
>
> We have to synchronize the subject Psychology, with the macro Psychology
> of nature. As it is, we are cyborging our macro bodies, with mechanization.
> There is a gigantic dimension of Psychology as the Macro Psychology. We
> need the exclusive nature parks, where we simply live as part of nature,
> with absolutely no mechanization, wherein we can breathe, smell, sense,
> perceive, act and interact as part and partisan of nature.
>
> My simple question is, after death where are we going? We are certainly
> not going into some factory or workshop. We are going into the arena of
> feelings. We need to know the Macro Psychology.
>
> YM
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