Pranam
AUTOPOIESIS: COGNITION EVERYWHERE :In Capra’s hands, the idea that life is
cognition is a way to abandon relevant distinctions, “the organizing
activity of living systems, at all levels of life, is mental activity. The
interactions of a living organism—plant, animal, or human—with its
environment are cognitive, or mental interactions. … Mind—or, more
accurately, mental process—is immanent in matter at all levels of life.”
This is as deadening, in its own way, as the currently faddish notion that
“the mind is a computer.” However, in the end, we have to reformulate all
of the old questions and reinvent all of the old categories. This is little
more than an intellectual make-work program. If all life is mind, we still
want to know what is special about human minds or mammalian minds or
vertebrate minds as compared to bacteria minds and tree minds.
2 There is a book written in 1928 Autopoiesis and cognition by Maturana
and Francisco where vivisection of the cows’ instinct after the food
consumption is discussed scientifically. It’s a mind stagnant reaction
where , when the whole world is presumed to have come to an end, by certain
category of people, and who had done fast triggers on other people to climb
up the stairs, using the heads of others, to climb-over, rewind the bad
ones. Good ones do not grind over the past but rely on the Brahmam.
3 Knowledge is the product of activities of individual minds,
activities whose subjects and investigative methods are - at least in
theory - free; in reality, however, they are rooted for the most part in
the social base where man is educated. In the modern Western world, this
base consists of an established system of knowledge collected and
transmitted to subsequent generations through a well-organised school
system. For every branch of science, therefore, it holds true that progress
takes place at continuously advancing frontier lines, thanks to which the
process of learning in a new generation can bene[1]fit from pre-established
cognitive structures, which, on the one hand, allow for an enormous economy
of thought and, on the other, offer the possibility and the instruments to
attack problems of increasing complexity. Scientific progress is,
therefore, a permanent legacy in advanced, stable societies. From the
quaternary to the modern age, individual cerebral abilities have
essentially remained unchanged, but they have been employed in such a way
so as to increase with time a collective patrimony of knowledge. owing to a
tradition involved in every aspect of knowledge and maintained in an exact
fashion as well as owing to an astonishingly synergistic amplification.
4 Progress is, in fact, possible, because knowledge is not inherited
genetically by more or less complex coding, but, in a certain way, is
continuously being codified and retained in some kind of external memory.
This collective intellectual heritage is transmitted through communication,
which presupposes a unity, a super-individual state, a communion (”cum
unione”) of cognitive processes. Human civilisation is essentially bound to
uninterrupted, multifarious traditions, oral, written, depicted, which
encompass all intellectual activities. Already in prehistoric societies the
individual was facing a patrimony of knowledge, which exceeded his learning
capabilities, but he accepted it in compliance with an authority principle,
whose alleged origins may even date back to a mythical past. The idea of
progress, as conceived in our times, is completely alien to this
traditional vision of knowledge that survived until historical ages.
5 On the other hand, the traces of any human activity, even if stored
in the most durable artificial memory, remain of limited interest and thus
of equally limited relevance and existence. For a short time these traces
continue to exert a direct influence on society; their contents may be used
as models, as sources of inspiration or be a source of criticism and
reflection; those of greatest interest are absorbed by other more relevant
subjects. In the end, the original remains are left to rest in some
external memory from where, with only a few exceptions, may be taken up
again from time to time until they fall into a permanent state of oblivion.
The periods of vital relevance, of possible influence and of mere
archaeological value of these products of human activities can be estimated
from our own historical past.
6 ”Suppose that an ultra intelligent machine can be defined so that it
surpasses all intellectual activities of the most intelligent man. Since
the plan of the machine is one of these intellectual activities, an
ultra-intelligent machine will be able to plan even better machines; that
would certainly lead to an ”outbreak of intelligence“ and intelligence of
man would be left behind of many lengths. Therefore, the ultra-intelligent
machine would be the last in[1]vention that man would have needed to make,
provided that the machine will be always obedient enough to tell him how he
can keep itself under control.
7 Theer are many stories and vedic verses of Upanishads for the real
autopoiesis in this land of which Bhaja govindam Ajaameelan, Puru apart the
Bheeshma upadesam of the last thoughts are narrated in Smd Bhagavatham (
Azhwar in Tamil sung that when memory lapsed I wont be able to recite your
name, so Let me do now itself is the best cognitive science) as under:
puruṣa-sva-bhāva-vihitān yathā-varṇaṁ yathāśramam
vairāgya-rāgopādhibhyām āmnātobhaya-lakṣaṇān (1 9 26)
At Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira’s inquiry, Bhīṣmadeva first defined all the
classifications of castes and orders of life in terms of the individual’s
qualifications. Then he systematically, in twofold divisions, described
counteraction by detachment and interaction by attachment.
dāna-dharmān rāja-dharmān mokṣa-dharmān vibhāgaśaḥ
strī-dharmān bhagavad-dharmān samāsa-vyāsa-yogataḥ (1 9 27)
He then explained, by divisions, acts of charity, the pragmatic activities
of a king and activities for salvation. Then he described the duties of
women and devotees, both briefly and extensively.
dharmārtha-kāma-mokṣāṁś ca sahopāyān yathā mune
nānākhyānetihāseṣu varṇayām āsa tattvavit (1 9 28)
Then he described the occupational duties of different orders and statuses
of life, citing instances from history, for he was himself well acquainted
with the truth.
tadopasaṁhṛtya giraḥ sahasraṇīr vimukta-saṅgaṁ mana ādi-pūruṣe
kṛṣṇe lasat-pīta-paṭe catur-bhuje puraḥ sthite ’mīlita-dṛg vyadhārayat
Thereupon that man who spoke on different subjects with thousands of
meanings, and who fought on thousands of battlefields and protected
thousands of men, stopped speaking and, being completely freed from all
bondage, withdrew his mind from everything else and fixed his wide-open
eyes upon the original Personality of Godhead, who stood before him,
four-handed, dressed in yellow garments that glittered and shined. 1/9/30.
अन्तर्बाष्पाकुलितनयनानन्तरङ्गानपश्यन्
अग्रे घॊषं रुदितबहुलं कातरानमशृण्वन् ।
अत्युत्क्रान्तिश्रममगणयन्नन्तकालॆ कपर्दिन्
अङ्घ्रिद्वन्द्वॆ तव निविशतामन्तरात्मन्ममात्मा ॥ ३९ ॥
antarbAShpAkulitanayanAnantara~ggAnapashyan
agre ghOShaM rudita bahulaM kAtarAnam ashRuNvan |
atyutkrAntishramamagaNayannantakAlE kapardin
a~gghridvandvE tava nivishatAmantarAtmanmamAtmA || 39 ||
Not looking at the eyes of the intimate ones that are muddied with the
brimming tears, not hearing the wide cries of the tender ladies in the
front, not considering the pain of the breath going out,
oh the God with the braid-locks, oh the One residing in the soul,
may my soul resort to Your two feet! KR IRS 24422
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 17:39, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <
[email protected]> wrote:
> /// As one ages, one begins remembering and recollecting one’s life. ///
>
> Fully agree with your views.
>
> On Fri, 22 Apr, 2022, 8:09 pm Markendeya Yeddanapudi, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
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>> *Mar**The Autopoetic Recollection*
>>
>>
>>
>> Autopoiesis is the self check and self audit of every system and aspect
>> in the mini universe, the cell, by the cell before it divides into two and
>> ends its existence as one cell. Before death every organism too remembers
>> and recollects its entire life, a different Autopoesis, may be before
>> entering into another life. A human being too remembers his/her entire life
>> for a few minutes before dying. According to Dr Raymond Moody, a human
>> being experiences the sliding fast in a tunnel before meeting an apparition
>> of ultimate bliss, a person in the shape of the pleasantest light. The
>> light speaks to the person to remember his/her entire life. The light gives
>> the sensation of total approval and acceptance of the person. The person
>> wants to remain with the light forever.
>>
>> The person then remembers and recollects his/her entire life feeling
>> happy for every deed of love and regretting bitterly for every deed of
>> hate.Today, Psychologists admit that a person remembers his/her entire life
>> very fast within five minutes, before dying. The theory of a being of light
>> speaking is still not admitted by Psychologists.
>>
>> As one ages, one begins remembering and recollecting one’s life. One
>> stops creating new paradigms of connection for more understanding, as one
>> advances in age. The words, phrases, clauses and sentences, form the
>> person, rest on the established paradigms. One can know the dominant
>> paradigms of understanding by that person on the basis of the words that
>> person uses.
>>
>> There are also those, who have spent very purposeful and altruism driven
>> lives, and who continue serving others till the last minutes of life. They
>> die most probably with a smile of great happiness and they may actually
>> merge into the being of light-The Siva.
>>
>> Unfortunately there are also persons who have spent very negative lives,
>> and for them, death is very negative. Negative language and denigration
>> becomes their expression, even in advanced age. How they feel, when they
>> ultimately undergo Autopoiesis before dying, is not pleasant to imagine.
>>
>> As a member of the seniors forum, it is my fortune to meet wonderful
>> people, whose Autopoiesis may be a wonderful orgasm, before they leave for
>> their next world.
>>
>> YM
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