Pranam I like that roudram. All is well. Half begun is well begun . Mr Modi, Amit shah, Yogi and many more in the party are taking stock of all things. Nothing happens suddenly. 2024 is threatening every opposition member. Did Nupu Spoke so casually?. Did Annamalai do phase 1 .2 etc just like that?. Are we so dependent on the UAE for petrol or do we have plan B and C also?. So many outbursts, riots, marching and in so many fashions are all accidental or co-incidental?. Diplomacy is a simple word. Mr Jai Shankar is dextrous. Nirmala is doing something. Kerala . Karnataaka, A P and TN are all trembling . Even our constitutional authority says something? SILENCE IS GOLDEN WHETHER A NATION OR A GROUP. aFTER ALL WHERE 70S, 80S AND 90S , LOCAL, AND USA AND UAE ARE MOVING THEIR COINS IN A GROUP , WILL NOT THE NATION KNOW IT?.CcHESS OLYM[PIAD STARTS IN A FORTNIGHT IN TN . Saturn and 5 planets play till oct 2022 and then end shall justify the means. KR IRS 10622
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 19:32, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]> wrote: > What and where is the question of not obeying Parabrahmam? He is not going > to take an Avathar now to make up for our > Indifference, incompetece, inept attitude etc. Why should He? > > Forget about the OIC, I can understand Modi's dilemma as he has to ensure > energy supplies and has to think of our workforce there. > > But to cave in, and cave in meekly ( Yogi is an exception) to the > Elements who have usurped the courts' authority, not daring to show them > the Iron Hand of the Law is as shameful as it is distasteful; is this what > an elected govt which swore to uphold the law supposed to do? And rarely, > if and when they do show, our most honourable S C judges will stay them and > then start to govern themselves but leave the consequences to the elected > govt. > > Yes, the invaders can be defeated but when we are so happy to serve them > so that we will get a higher slavery status than some of our countrymen, > who will fight them? See our people vying with one another on the tv > debates, to absolve them and put all the blame on us. Money talks and talks > loudly, Bharat Mata is not so rich to buy support and has to shame herself > for begetting children like these. > > After all, we, the so called upper castes took pride in serving the > English to suppress our own and were rejoicing in the " SIR, RT. > HONOURABLE " Titles, weren't we? How and when and who will we fight? That's > why I said we will obey which we are doing now, which only people with open > eyes can see. > > My family is safe in the US. why care for the Desh and the Deshis? I will > not participate in u tube and other social media to show my support and > views. And I have my sicular image to maintain. > > Silence is the better part of valour. Let the country and the Sanatana > Dharma go to hell, why care? Someone else will fight and then I will join > the winning party. > > Let us happily say all religions say there is only one God and see, hear > and do no wrong. Who will dare to question that the one God they refer to > is their God only whereas we include each and everyone. We can feign > innocence or ignorance. > > N Sekar > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 4:59 PM, Narayanaswamy Iyer > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Sri N Sekar writes:- > > *"I hope Sri. Narayanaswamy Iyer reads as he was eloquent that we * > *will not obey."* > > What I had written was:- > > "You (N Sekar) say, or prophesy:- > > *"Eventually, we will be told to obey Jesus or Allah which we will."* > > *"NO! WE WILL NOT!"* > > Why is nervous and defeatist Sri N Sekar now saying that we are obeying > Jesus and Allah and not parabrahman? > > Has he had a look at history? > > Impregnable Troy was defeated by deceit and guile by the Greeks. > The Romans defeated and enslaved the Greeks. The Goths and the > Vandals from north of the Alps destroyed Rome. The Germans were > defeated in their own by territories north of the Alps by descendants > of the Anglo-Saxons in Britannia. The British not only defeated the > Germans but also established an empire on which the Sun never set. > Their own rebels in the New England colonies overcame them in battle > and established their own hegemony, which still endures. > > The horse-mounted Mongols swept across the plains of Asia and > conquered country after country. Their empire in South Asia lasted for > eight centuries till overrun by the Britons. They are still powerful in > China, Japan, Korea. They are found in tight powerful clusters all over > the world. Their influence, diplomatic, political, social, economic, > military, cultural, financial, is steadily intensifying and expanding > everywhere. > > Do we Indians have the guts which the present-day descendants of the > Mongols have? > > When the Muslims of Undivided India demanded and obtained their very own > homelands of present-day Bangladesh and Pakistan, did we ensure that > every Muslim, man, woman and child, was repatriated to these new homelands > promptly and without exception? > > Failing that, why did we not set up re-education, re-integration, > re-conversion > centres,re-training camps, reformation schools, brain-washing machinery > on the lines of what the Han Chinese did in Xinjiang? > > Why on Earth not? > > Craven cowardice on the part of British-loving Nehru, Muslim-loving Gandhi, > indifference on the part of Ambedkar and Patel? > > Spain and Portugal were once Muslim countries. Today they are not. > Israel thrives despite overwhelming population superiority of Muslims in > east Asia. > > Islam is not invincible. It never was invincible. > > Can we not learn from Israel, Spain, Portugal, China? > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On 9 Jun 2022, at 4:10 PM, N Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have written several times before that " Evil spreads BECAUSE of the > Silence of the Giod" - this is one just example. > > The sicular crowd should see what lies ahead: > > I hope Sri. Narayanaswamy Iyer reads as he was eloquent that we will not > obey - just one incident has made us all crawl, BECAUSE of, among other > things, our intra Faith differences - so called upper, middle, lower etc. > caste feelings - We would rather prefer be subjugated by the fringe than > see reason and be accommodative with each other of our own. > > Writing is on the wall - the leader has meekly caved in. Troops will > follow. > > > Islamist fear wins: Indian news channels start removing content that can > offend Muslims, show on ‘ex Muslims’ goes missing > > Essentially got vicariously scared of the threats being given to Nupur > Sharma and instead of standing up to and calling out the Islamists who were > threatening her, they crawled when the Islamists had not yet asked them > even to bend. > > Nupur Sharma’s comment and the subsequent outrage by the Islamic community > <https://www.opindia.com/2022/06/nupur-sharma-comment-prophet-muhammad-unnecessary-hindus-wrong/>, > which led to calls for beheading and gang rape, has opened Pandora’s box. > Since PM Modi came to power, Hindus managed to shift > <https://www.opindia.com/2021/11/greatest-achievement-hindus-7-years-shifting-overton-window-ram-mandir/> > the > Overton Window substantially, with taboo subjects being spoken about in the > open – whether it was the Hindu genocide, the Islamic invasion, distortion > of history or reclamation of cultural heritage. However, almost as a live > demonstration of Nassim Taleb’s theory of how the “most intolerant wins”, > the criticism of Islam seems to be leaving public discourse even before it > started becoming “mainstream”. > > After the Islamist community, including Taliban and Al Qaeda, in unison > screamed “Gustakh-e-Rasool ki saza, sar tan se juda”, media houses seem to > be getting scared enough to pull down interviews they thought might offend > the Islamists. > > India TV, which portends to be the voice of the masses, has pulled down a > video where it had interviewed ex-Muslims and why they left the Islamic > faith. > > The video on Youtube has gone missing and on their website, it says that > the video interview of ex-Muslims has been made private. > > <https://i0.wp.com/www.opindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/India-TV-.png?ssl=1>Screenshot > of the article from the India TV website. > > An archive copy of their website page, where this video was supposed to be > there can be viewed here > <https://web.archive.org/web/20220609041457/https://www.indiatv.in/video/news-bulletin/i-am-ex-muslim-complete-show-on-people-who-converted-from-islam-2022-05-14-850860> > . > > The India TV interview, according to the headline on their website, was a > debate between ex-Muslims and Maulanas. After the Nupur Sharma episode, > where Islamic nations came out to condemn comments on Islam, Al Qaeda and > Taliban issued threats and several Islamic organisations issued a bounty on > Nupur Sharma’s head, the show seems to have been pulled down. > > Sources in several news channels have stated that after the Nupur Sharma > episode, there has been immense pressure that is being exerted by the top > bosses on the anchors and editors to remove content that may be seen as > offensive to the Islamic community. > > The feelers, one such TV journalist said, have come mostly from the owners > of the channels. “We were sent subtle messages, feelers, to ensure that > shows that may offend Muslims are not done given that the atmosphere is not > right after the Nupur Sharma incident. There was also indirect pressure to > remove certain shows that may be deemed offensive”. > > “The barrage of threats and just how much this issue snowballed has > spooked the owners of these channels. They think that the slightest > provocation can end up with them getting threats”, he added. > > In the past 10 years and especially in the past 8 years, Hindus have > managed to shift the Overton Window considerably. > > The Overton Window is a set of ideas and policies which are acceptable to > the mainstream population at a given time. The spectrum of acceptability > ranges from what the society deems “unacceptable” to what set of ideas > eventually becomes a government policy acceptable to the mainstream > population. > > Joshua Treviño has postulated that the six degrees of acceptance of public > ideas are roughly: > > - Unthinkable > - Radical > - Acceptable > - Sensible > - Popular > - Policy > > “The barrage of threats and just how much this issue snowballed has > spooked the owners of these channels. They think that the slightest > provocation can end up with them getting threats”, he added. > > In the past 10 years and especially in the past 8 years, Hindus have > managed to shift the Overton Window considerably. > > The Overton Window is a set of ideas and policies which are acceptable to > the mainstream population at a given time. The spectrum of acceptability > ranges from what the society deems “unacceptable” to what set of ideas > eventually becomes a government policy acceptable to the mainstream > population. > > Joshua Treviño has postulated that the six degrees of acceptance of public > ideas are roughly: > > - Unthinkable > - Radical > - Acceptable > - Sensible > - Popular > - Policy > > > - > > The Overton Window, simply put, shifts when an acceptable idea becomes > popular and then translates to policy. Or better yet, when a radical idea > journeys its way through being considered ‘sensible’ to ‘popular’ and then > translates into policy. > > While Hindus with the help of the government in power, made massive > strides in the past few years in shifting the Overton Window, with Media > houses cowering to Islamic pressure, Hindus run the risk of the Overton > Window shrinking yet again. > > With the Nupur Sharma fiasco, one has to imagine that just like India > TV, several individuals would also think that if a national spokesperson of > the largest political party in the world can be hounded and endangered in > this manner, they will be silenced if they tread the same path. While there > is a vast difference between a media house cowering to pressure and > deleting their content and average citizens who firstly have no might back > them when they fall into trouble and also, are not in the profession of > standing up to pressure to speak the truth, the shrinking of the Overton > Window seems to affect opinions across the board. > > It was only recently that Hindus started talking openly about a > religion that has historically subjugated, tortured, murdered and raped the > Hindu community. It was only recently that we could openly start demanding > that our faith gets accorded the same level of respect that other religions > demand and that just because we don’t assert our street power, our Gods and > Goddesses are not up for insult. It is only recently that Hindus started > realising that the “All religions are equal” trope is just that – a trope. > While Hindus believe in plurality, Islamists believe that India is > Dar-ul-Harb that needs to be converted into Dar-ul-Islam and that for them, > Hindus will continue to be Kafirs no matter how many concessions the > community makes for them. > > Hindus have been abused for aeons, however, in the internet age, the > fact that social media can be used to organise an international campaign to > demand a woman’s head is a reality that Hindus are trying to come to terms > with. In the process, the gains made in opening up the conversation to the > masses have taken a severe hit. > > As India TV gives in to Islamic pressure, on the other hand, we had > India News. Their anchor Pradeep Bhandari had conducted a program where > ex-Muslims had exposed the radical Muslims on television, which is still > live, for now. > While one expects average citizens to think about their own safety and > protection first, media houses are supposed to stand up to pressures from > murderous elements. One does not truly expect a media house, one as > powerful as India TV, to cower to pressure even before it is exerted upon > them. They essentially got vicariously scared of the threats being given to > Nupur Sharma and instead of standing up to and calling out the Islamists > who were threatening her, they crawled when the Islamists had not yet asked > them even to bend. > > > > N Sekar > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1120881172.1154141.1654783320699%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1120881172.1154141.1654783320699%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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