The views expressed by Mr Sekar cannot be brushed aside. At the same time we cannot either pass by the ancient value system a truth or blame the present system. A system is not wrong. The executors of the system and the supervisory management are the causes of corruption and the failures. The Parliament, while enacting any act or the provisions, cannot do it by uneducated parliamentarians; it shall be consulted in writing before the concerned dept and the elite judges of the court, compulsorily asking their presentation of the pros and cons. Then weigh all those transparently. Weigh the needs and the consequences and a viable check if those "CONS" were to misinform and I'll-execute. The Punishment for the defaulters must be their life sentence and not in a few months of the imprisonment. CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE MISSING. EVEN WHEN THERE WAS ONLY A POWERFUL KING, HE WAS FORCED TO QUIT BY THE DHARMIC LAWS EXECUTED BY THE LEARNED. TIME WILL RULE OVER THE VILLAINY, AS WE SUFFERED UNDER THE MUSLIM AND BRITISH RULINGS. But the new sunrise shall happen if we rise up within a short span. The error is in us. We have to fight , not throw distress calls. We have to accept the truth. Any nation will swindle. Our wealth of the Bharath kingdoms was plundered by our own kings from the defeated; Raja Raja chozhan plundered Sri Lanka; the victor will do it; if we are powerful. We can also rule England and plunder back. The reality is laughing at all our faces. We have to fight means, we include, simultaneous change over from all of us. Can that happen?. It had happened in history only when cornered to the wall. A leader does not change his mind; he operates only as a tool to impress; but as long as the denial exists because of partiality, nothing will happen; karma only will decide that time also. After all, in a small group, a large number are only mere onlookers and do not think to fight the adarma; if so how a nation will?; XCan any voluminous army possessed country could stop Russia?; why not?; reasons are too many; but adharma alone will win; not the clarion call; so NANDRUM THEETHUM THE GLORY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL. WHERE THE NATION AS A WHOLE MOVES TOGETHER THERE ALONE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS CAN HAPPEN. FEARLESS MEANS NOT THYE VALOUR TO FIGHT WITH THE TOOLS; THE COURAGE TO FACE ALL THE ODDS OF SACRIFICES IS THAT FEARLESSNESS. ARE WE FIT?. India was never a whole consolidated one country till 1947 . There was no one USA; or one England; or one Australia. While there was instability in all the other 4 continents, and nations of Asia, India never had the malice of non unity. But all those against the dharma went off the wheels, on the day, people, including Brahmins , crossed the vedic dharma and out of selfishness and greediness, flouted the way of life. A large section will frown and raise their antagonised voices, but truth is bitter; a glass can be saved from the breakage; but broken glass to pieces can never be glued. After all the bRahmin community cannot exploit the laws as avoidance because of this selfishness only. The Brahmin petition for certain claims was recently rejected by the greta court, only because the leading brahmin dvocated did not feel to take up the case unitedly. Hypocrisy will undoubtedly. Change is not changing because it is the nature; nature will have to change; or else, the burst would not have become so large after 13 billion years; raw gold must become pure one; it shall become a jewellery; it shall be melted back; again to become another jewellery; but Gold id Gold only which will never change. KR IRS 311022
On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 11:36, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks but just these observations: > > The British did not build the railways out of love for us BUT > To move their troops, materials etc. so they can govern this country > effectively and also to help in their war efforts. > > Before their so called judiciary which imprisoned and tortured Desh > Bakthaas, we used to solve the issues at the village level, some of the > respected people of the village acting as the judges - sitting under a > banyan tree or so. > > There were no ADJOURNMENTS nor any fancy fees - filing, lawyers fees etc > but cases were solved expeditiously - No looking forward to post retirement > benefits, nor playing to the gallery, nor the tendency to sell justice to > whoever was able to pay, nor any need to appear to be sicular, nor the > need to play to the gallery. > > By and large our system worked although it might not have been perfect. > > But then looking at the judiciary from the time of Indira Gandhi - > remember she wanted a committed judiciary and the judges obliged her saying > the state has the right to take a citizen's life when the emergency was > challenged, with the lone honourable exception of Justice H R Khanna. The > then Chief Justice who caved in so meekly, has managed to make his son the > present Chief Justice, thanks to the self appointed collegium system where > the relatives of the S C judges get elevated. I had sent a detailed list of > such fellows - forwarded from OpIndia. > > Even English was introduced to help in the governance and not to help us > to learn. > > Intention behind the action is more important than the action. > > British swindled India and the British Museum would be empty but for their > loot from India and other colonies. > > N Sekar > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:53 AM, Narayanaswamy Iyer > <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear folks > > Yes, yes, I know. > > The ports, airports, railways, monumental Government buildings in > Calcatta, New Delhi, and elsewhere were not built by sweating pink-skinned > blue-eyed fair-haired hordes from the countryside and towns of England, > Scotland, Wales and Ireland, nor from the Channel Islands, all of whom were > ferried by flat-bottomed boats like herds of goats and cattle, past the > Cape of Good Hope before 1869, and after through the Suez Canal. > > (I have an East India Company copper Queen Victoria circular large > one-cent coin dated 1845 circulating in the then Federated Malay States and > Straits Settlements.) > > No. > > Those reminders of Great Britain's vanished glory of the empire on which > the Sun never sets were built through the toils of slave-labourers from > within India. > > They have been bequeathed to Nehru, Indira, and their successors, who > plunder our richer temples such as the Padmanaabha-svaami temple in Kerala > and Thirupathi Venkeshvara-svaami temple in Karnataka. I have visited and > prayed at both these temples with my family and relatives. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On 31 Oct 2022, at 12:20 PM, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear folks > > While I do not admire the Moguls and their successors for destroying our > temples such as the Kaashi Vishvanaathaa-svaami temple, and the Mathurai > Sree Krishna-bhagavaan temple and using salvaged materials to build mosques > and the structures surrounding the Kutb Minar, which still stand as giant > obscentities in Hindu India, I still owe it to the enterprising Englishmen > who built the railway system, gave us the parliamentary and judicial > systems, and their language. These are still in use, though much abused. > > This is not to forget that Rishi Sanuk's predecessor Sir Winston Churchill > called M K Gandhi and, by implication all native Indians, half-naked > savages and sadhus, while the latter climbed the steps of Buckingham Palace > in London to meet ruling King-Emperor George V, in whose honour a sinfully > grandiose Durbar was held in New Delhi. > > Will Rishi from East Africa ultimately prove to have inherited the > political genes of his illustrious wartime predecessor? > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On 31 Oct 2022, at 10:18 AM, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Like Nehru was considered to be more British than the British themselves. > He had total disdain for our religion, culture and practices thanks to his > aristocratic upbringing and British education. And freely interfered with > the Hindu religious practices while turning a blind eye to the others. > > He was responsible for our education system to hide, downplay the Hindu > Glories while hero worshiping the Moghuls and the British. The lessons were > slanted to mean these fellows did us a favour the citing architecture, > railways etc. > > Bharat's Sabakkedu. > > He was "phoren" vs us " Deshis". > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 3:37 AM, Narayanaswamy Iyer > <[email protected]> wrote: > Points noted. > > Perhaps Sunak might in time turn out to be "whiter than white" as some > detergents advertise themselves. > > Let us wait and see. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On 30 Oct 2022, at 11:59 PM, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > In my opinion, a Sensible article, with feet firmly on the ground and not > building castles in the air, as some in this country do. > > > Wake up fellow Indians. > > > Fwd: > > > https://www.firstpost.com/opinion-news-expert-views-news-analysis-firstpost-viewpoint/indians-should-stop-getting-excited-rishi-sunak-is-hardcore-anti-immigrant-conservative-11538731.html > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1230726204.1481687.1667145576457%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1230726204.1481687.1667145576457%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/41735F48-5D11-434F-8530-4FD156480DDB%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/41735F48-5D11-434F-8530-4FD156480DDB%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/448208957.777781.1667182735721%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/448208957.777781.1667182735721%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/9A2D89CC-8B14-431E-BBD1-3DFBCAF32B21%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/9A2D89CC-8B14-431E-BBD1-3DFBCAF32B21%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/193600408.1629100.1667196392364%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/193600408.1629100.1667196392364%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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