No Mr Gopal;alkrishnan. There were never any pillows in Treta yuga. Reproduced verses of valmiki Ramayanam. Your hearsay must be som unauthentic version KR IRS 131122
Book II : Ayodhya Kanda - [Sarga] 10 विदर्शिता यदा देवी कुब्जया पापया भृशम् | तदा शेते स्म सा भूमौ दिग्धविद्धेव किन्नरी || २-१०-१Bhoomou on earth} 1. yadaa = when; vidarshitaa = being wrongly preached; kubjayaa = by the hunch backed manthara; bhR^isham paapayaa = who was the most sinful person; tadaa = then; saa devii = that kaikeyi; shetesma = lied down; bhumau = on floor; kinnariiva = like a kinnara woman; digdhaviddhaa = beaten by poisoned arrow. Having been thus wrongly preached by that sinful Manthara. Kaikeyi lied down on the floor as a Kinnara woman beaten by a poisoned arrow. सा दीना निश्चयं कृत्वा मन्थरावाक्यमोहिता | नागकन्येव निःस्वस्य दीर्घमुष्णं च भामिनी || २-१०-३ मुहूर्तं चिन्तयामास मार्गमात्मसुखावहम् | 3. mantharaavaakyamohitaa = stupefied by the words of Manthara; saa bhaaminii = that Kaikeyi; diina = became dejected; nishchayam kR^itvaa = made firm resolution; niHshvasya = sighed; diirgham = deeply; ushhNamcha = and warmly; naagakanyeva = like maiden-serpant; chintayaamaasa = thought; muhuurtam = for a moment; maargam = about the way; aatmasukhaavaham = which can lead to her happiness. Being stupefied by the words of Manthara, that Kaikeyi became dejected, made firm resolve, with deep and warm sigh, like a maiden-serpent and thought for that moment about the ways which can lead to her happiness. अथ सा रुषिता देवी सम्यक्कृत्वा विनिश्चयम् || २-१०-५ संविवेशाबला भूमौ निवेश्य भृकुटिं मुखे | Bhoomou on earth 5. atha = afterwards; saa abala = that lady; devii = the queen; rushhitaa = being angry; samyak = well; kR^itvaa = made; vinishchayam = determination; savivesha = lied down; bhuumau = on floor; niveshya = keeping; bhrukutim = eyebrows contracted; mukhe = in face. Kaikeyi, being angry and well determined, lied down on the floor with eye brows, knitted in her face. ततश्चित्राणि माल्यानि दिव्यान्याभरणानि च || २-१०-६ अपविद्धानि कैकेय्या तानि भूमिं प्रपेदिरे | 6.tataH = thereafter; taani = those; chitraaNi = chaplets; divyaani = beautiful; aabharaNaani = ornaments; apaviddhaam = which were thrown away; kaikeyyaa = by Kaikeyi; prapedire = reached; bhuumim = the floor. Thereafter, she threw away her colourful chaplets and beautiful ornaments on to the floor. तया तान्यपविद्धानि माल्यान्याभरणानि च || २-१०-७ अशोभयन्त वसुधां नक्षत्राणि यथा नभः | 7. taani = those; maalyaani = chaplets; aabharaaNicha = and ornaments; apaviddhaani = which were thrown away; tayaa = by her; ashobhayanta vasudhaam = were making the earth shine; yathaa = as; nakshhatraaNi = stars; babhaH = in the sky. Those chaplets and ornaments which were thrown away by her were making the earth shine, as stars to the sky. क्रोधागारे निपतिता सा बभौ मलिनाम्बरा || २-१०-८ एकवेणीं दृढं बद्ध्वा गतसत्त्वेव किन्नरी | 8. baddhvaa = tying; ekaveNiim = single braid of; dR^iDham = tightly; malinaambaraa = wearing soiled clothes; saa = that Kaikeyi; nipatitaa = lying down; krodhaare = in chamber of wrath; babhau = shone(was); kinnarii eva = like kinnara woman. Tying her single braid of hair tightly over her head and wearing soiled clothes, that Kaikeyi lying down in the chamber of wrath was looking like a Kinnara woman lying down dead. शुकबर्हिणसंयुक्तं क्रौञ्चहंसरुतायुतम् || २-१०-१२ वादित्ररवसंघुष्टं कुब्जावामनिकायुतम् | लतागृहैश्चित्रगृहैश्चम्पकाशोकशोभितैः || २-१०-१३ दान्तराजत सौवर्णवेदिकाभिस्समायुतम् | नित्यपुष्पफलैर्वृक्षैर्वापीभिश्चोपशोभितम् || २-१०-१४ दान्तराजतसौवर्णैः संवृतं परमासनैः | विविध्यैरन्नपानैश्छ भक्ष्यैश्चवि विधैरपि || २-१०-१५ उपपन्नं महार्हैश्च भूषितैस्त्रिदिवोपमम् | तत्प्रविश्य महाराजः स्वमन्तःपुरमृद्धिमत् || २-१०-१६ न ददर्श प्रियां राजा कैकेयीं शयनोत्तमे | shayonothame is bed and not pillows . 12;13;14;15;16. mahaaraajaH = the great king; raajaa = Dasaratha; pravishya = entering; tat = that; svam = his; Riddhimat = magnificient; antaH puram = palace;shukabarahiNa samyuktam = containing parrots and peacocks; krauncha hamsa rutaayutam = filled with sounds of birds like curlews and swans; vaaditraravasanghushhtam = resonant with sounds of musical instruments; kubjaa vaamanikaayutam = consisting of short and hunch backed maid servants; champakaashoka shobhitai = with lovely champaka and ashoka trees; lataagR^ihaiH = with bowers surrounded by creapers; chitragR^ihaiH cha = with painted rooms; daantaraajata souvarNa; vedikaabhiH = with altars built with ivory; silver and gold;samaayutam = endowed with vsikshhaiH = trees; nitya pushhpa phalaiH = always yielding flowers and fruits; vaapiibhiH cha = and with wells; upashobhitam = adorned with paramaasanaiH = beautiful seats; daantaraajata sauvarNaiH = of ivory; silver and gold; upashobhitam = adorned with vividhaiH = various; aunapaanaiH cha = foods and drinks; vividhaiH = various; bhakshhaiH cha = snacks; upapannam = endowed with; bhuushhitaiH = beautifully adorned; mahaarhaiH = worthy women; tridivopamam = looking like heaven; nadadarsha = could not find; priyam = beloved; kaikeyiim = Kaikeyi; shayauottame = on the best couch. King Dasaratha entered his magnificent palace but could not find his beloved kaikeyi on her best couch there. Peacocks and parrots were being reared in that palace, sounds of birds like curlews, and swans were heard around. The place was resonant with sounds of musical instruments. Short and hunch-backed maid-servants were moving here and there. There were bowers surrounded with creepers and lovely champaka and Ashoka trees. There were painted rooms. There were altars built with ivory, silver and gold. There were trees yielding flowers and fruits in all seasons and wells in the middle. There were beautiful seats constructed with ivory, silver and gold. Various types of food, drinks and snacks were made available. That palace was looking like heaven with beautifully adorned women. तत्रतां पतितां भूमौ शयानामतथोचिताम् || २-१०-२२ प्रतप्त इव दुःखेन सोऽपश्यज्जगतीपतिः |shayanamathathochitaam sleeping in such condition on the floor 22. jagatiipatiH = Lord of the earth; saH = that Dasaratha; apashyat = saw; taam = her; patitaam = lying down; bhuumau = on floor; tatra = there; shayaanaam = sleeping; atathochitaam = in such and improper condition; praptaH eva = like burning; duHkhena = with grief. King Dasaratha, after seeing Kaikeyi lying down on floor in the chamber of wrath, became tormented with grief. 29 भूमौ शेषे किमर्थं त्वं मयि कल्याणचेतसि | भूतोपहतचित्तेव मम चित्तप्रमाथिनी || २-१०-२९ 29. mayi kalyaana chetasi = when I have a good sense of mind; kimartham = why; tvam = you; mama chiHa pramaathinii = hurt my mind; seshhe = by resting; bhuumau = on floor; bhuutopahata chitteva = like one who is possessed of a devil. "when I am here to expend all good to you, why are you hurting my mind by lying down on the floor like the one who is possessed of a devil." | इत्यार्षे स्रिमद्रामायणे अद्दिकाव्ये अयोध्य काण्दे दशम सर्गः || ततः स राजा पुनरेव मूर्छितः | प्रियामतुष्टां प्रतिकूलभाषिणीम् | समीक्ष्य पुत्रस्य विवासनम् प्रति | क्षितौ विसंज्ञो निपपात दुःखितः || २-१३-२५2 23 27 25. samiikshha = seeing; priyaam = wife; pratikuula bhashhiniim = who is talking unpleasantly; putrasya vivaasanam prati = about sending the son to forest; atushhtaam = and who is dissatisfied; saH raajaa = that king; duHkhitaH = was distressed; tataH = and therafter; muurchchhitaH = fainted; punareva = again; visamGyaH = losing consciousness; nipapaata = fell down; kshhitau = on floor. Seeing his discontented wife talking unpleasantly about sending Rama to forest, that king was distressed, fainted again and fell down unconscious on the floor. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx पुत्र शोक अर्दितम् पापा विसम्ज्ञम् पतितम् भुवि | विवेष्टमानम् उदीक्ष्य सा ऐक्ष्वाकम् इदम् अब्रवीत् || २-१४-१ 2 24 1 1. saa paapaa = that wicked woman; abraviit = spoke; idam = these words; ikshhvaakam = to Dasaratha who was born in Ikshvaaku dynasty; putrashokaarditam = tormented by the anguish for his son; patitam = who was fallen; visajJNam = unconscious; viveshhTamaana m = tossing about; bhuvi = on the floor. That wicked woman spoke these words to Dasaratha, tormented as he was by the anguish for his son and who was unconscious, tossing about on the floor. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx प्राञ्जलिः ससुमुखं दृष्ट्वा विहारशयनासने |viharashayanaasane swinging soga राजपुत्रमुवाचेदं सुमन्त्रो राजसत्कृतः || २-१६-१२ 12. sumantraH = Sumantra; raajasatkR^itaH = who was treated with respect by Rama; vuaacha = spoke; idam = these words; praN^jaliH = with folded hands; raajaputram = to that prince; sumukham = with beautiful face; vihaarashayanaasane = and who was seated on a swinging sofa. Sumantra, who was treated with respect by Rama spoke thus with folded hands to that prince with beautiful face and who was seated on a swinging sofa. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx अतीता शर्वरी दुह्खम् या नो वर्ष शत उपमा | अस्मिन् पन्चत्वम् आपन्ने पुत्र शोकेन पार्थिवे || २-६७-५ 5. asmin = "This; paarthiva = king; aapanne = having obtained; paNchatvam = death; putrashokena = due to grief for his sons; yaa = which night; varshhashatopamaa = which was equal to a hundred years; naH = to us; sharvarii = that night; atiitaa = has passed away; duHkham = with great difficulty." "King Dasaratha having obtained death due to grief born of separation from his sons (Rama and Lakshmana), the night which burdened like a hundred years, has passed over with great difficulty." On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 13:38, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > What I read is pillows are known from Threthayugam. Kaikeyai is told as > weeping keeping head on her pillow in the bed and closed the door.... > Dasaratha cried and on weeping lying on the bed and dead thinking about > Rama went for forest life. No body knew when he died. Next day only it was > known when he was not waking up. I have studied the above in primary class > as prose- Balaramayanam. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Sunday, 13 November, 2022 at 11:09:19 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > It is a wonder that feather pillows are known here!!. I have no idea. And > cotton, cotton waste pillows are generally available here. Mother's lap is > known to many But do you know one more?. " Sri Ram, Mata Sita and > Lakshman were residing in the Chitrakuta Mountain during their exile period > in the Ramayana. Kakasura, son of Indra, in the form of a crow was flying > over the Chitrakuta and noticed the divine couple. Sri Ram was lying on > the lap of Mata Sita and sleeping. Kakasura came in the form of a crow > and scratched Mata Sita. The painful cry of Sita woke up Sri Ram. Bhagavan > Sri Ram immediately realized that the crow was Kakasura. He took up a sharp > blade of grass, infused into it the spell of Brahma and directed it at the > crow. Fearing for his life, Kakasura flew all over the world. But the > divine arrow followed him. Trimurtis, Devas and Saints could not save > Kakasura. Finally, Kakasura took refuge at the feet of Sri Ram. Bhagvan > Sri Ram said that the Brahmastra could never become futile so the arrow > will hit the right eye of Kakasura. Accordingly, the arrow struck the right > eye of Kakasura.So Pillows are unknown dasaratha time and Dridarashtra > times. And imported idea of the Islam and the British. Actually IRONING OF > DRESSES WERE DONE ONLY KEEPING THOSE DRESSES UNDER THE SAREE PILLOWS WHILE > SLEEPING?!!. nOW WE HAVE GONE TO THE EXTENT OF USING SINGLE FLAT PILLOW TO > DOUBLE THIN//THICK PILLOWS AND EVEN HAD ARRIVED AT SPONDYLOSIS PILLOWS AND > MEMORY FOAMS.Mt Grandma had with her a miniature plank roughly 9" length > and 6" breadth with two legs to support at the bottom and used to place to > her head and keep it aside when woke up. A pillow; चित्तिरा उपबर्हणम् > (*cittirā > upabarhaṇam*) Ṛgveda ; स्रि-नरद उवच सम्स्म्र्त्य सम्स्म्र्त्य हरिम् > परेचम् बभुव तुस्निम् नव-नन्द-रजह् चिरो निधयप्य् उपबर्हने स्वे ह्य् > उत्कन्थ-रोमन्चित-विह्वलग्गह् स्रि-नरद *sri-narada uvaca samsmrtya > samsmrtya harim parecam babhuva tusnim nava-nanda-rajah ciro nidhayapy > upabarhane sve hy utkantha-romancita-vihvalaggah sri-narada* > > *uvaca—*Sri Narada > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/narada#vaishnavism> said; > *samsmrtya—*remembering; *samsmrtya—*and remembering; *harim—*Krsna > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/krishna#vaishnavism>; *parecam—*the > Supreme Personality of Godhead; *babhuva—*became; *tusnim > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/tushnim#hinduism>—*silence; *nava > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/nava#hinduism>-nanda > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/nanda#hinduism>-rajah—*King > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/king#history> Nanda; *cirah—*head; > *nidhaya > <https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/nidhaya#hinduism>—*placing; *api—* > also; *upabarhane—*on the cushion; *sve—*own; *hi—*indeed; > *utkantha-romancita-vihvalaggah—*the hairs of his body erect with longing. > English > translation of verse 5.14.15: Sri Narada said: Thinking again and again > of Lord Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, King Nanda became > silent. The hairs of his body erect with his longing to see Krsna, he > rested his head on a pillow.(Garga samhita). Pillows of modern times were > not there in the ancient days. But Pillows were known, UPABARHANAm sounds > like an upper berth cushion. KR IRS 131122 > > On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 09:00, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you sir for all the added information. Except the feathers in pillow > and mother's lap, other information are new to me > Gopalakrishnan > > On Sunday, 13 November, 2022 at 07:32:30 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear folks > > *"We get pillows filled with different materials like cotton, waste > cotton, light sponge or foam. The best ones are filled with cotton, soft > and best to use."* > > In the West, the better pillows are filled with down -- finest feathers > from geese and other birds. They are superior to cotton, sponge, rubber > foam. > > Bolsters, or Dutch wives, are long round cylindrical pillows for wrapping > one's round on cold days. > > Throw pillows are ornamental little cushions more for decoration than use, > and set in corners of sofas and couches. > > There are no better pillows than one's own mother's lap. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On 12 Nov 2022, at 7:08 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *PILLOW (THALAYANA)* > > Dear friends, > > These are some interesting thoughts on pillows. Nothing very serious or > very informative in this posting. > > Gopalakrishnan 12-11-2022. > > *1 Why not lengthy pillows suitable for double cots or one and half cots?* > > We are having small pillows which can be used in trains. Still smaller > ones are used for babies. Not only for supporting head of babies, but to > keep on sides also, so that they will not fall down even from a bed on the > ground. > > In hospitals for the attendant of an in- patient a small cot having > slightly more width than a bench and a small pillow is provided. > > Though we are having double cots we are not normally getting pillows to > that length. Probably if we order we could make. > > *Pillow is for the convenience of each person and keeping it in suitable > position* depending on the person. Probably this could be the reason for > providing separate pillows. > > > > *2. Normal size of pillows* > > Normally in shops selling such items like pillow, bed etc., we get two > types of pillows. One is medium and another is large. We get suitable > pillow covers also there. Though we get bed spreads and pillow covers in > textile shops, pillows we have to go to merchants selling bed, cot, curtain > cloth etc. > > There are exceptions. In Trivandrum Chalai there is a swamy’s shop where > we get dhoti, pillow cover, towel and even needle and threads. > > *3. Material inside pillow**s* > > We get pillows filled with different materials like cotton, waste > cotton, light sponge or foam. The best ones are filled with cotton, soft > and best to use. A quality cotton pillow with good cover is comfortable to > get sleep soon. They are priced high. Waste cotton filled is lesser priced > and comfortable than sponge to many. Sponge filled and foam filled appears > having more height and on use the height may get reduce. > > *4. Dirty filling cloth of the pillow.* > > In all types if we remove pillow cover, we can see the filling cloth > appearing dirty. I have wondered what makes this filling cloth so dirty. > We cannot take it leaving pillow material, because *refilling and > stitching is a very difficult task.* Still I have no idea how they become > so dirty while pillow cover appears good even on one week use*. It is not > saliva from the mouth*. *Is it dead skin entering through pillow cover > makes it so?* Recently in sponge pillows, I removed the dirty ones, > filled the material in a pillow cover and stitched by hand. While there are > sofa repair people coming in road. I have not found a single pillow repair > man. I enquired the shop selling pillows. They answered, they too have only > sofa repair. > > *5 Pillow covers from platform merchants.* > > When I came to Chennai, I purchased a few pillow covers from platform > merchants. In fact still they are in use after 15 years. Platform > merchants also sell quality items. > > *6. Hand stitching machine.* > > My son brought before years a hand stitching machine which comes on sale > at Naptol etc. Probably it could help stitching easier with new container. > I have not yet opened it. > > *7. Discarding old pillows.* > > Only way to dispose old pillows is burning now in Chennai. Waste > collectors find the item too big. In Tambaram Corporation, now waste from > home is daily collected, a fixed amount is collected along with house tax. > In states like Kerala it may not be an imaginable thing to leave pillows in > waste item. I understand those having some compound burn them. > > *8 Re- stitching tailors* > > There are few re-stitching tailors for clothes, bags. Umbrella and > footwear have become use and throw item. So too pillows. Though heavily > charged there are repair shops for foam beds changing outer cover damaged > putting new cover and stitching end. > > *9 New beds* > > Whether compliment pillow with bed is given or not most shops give > compliment pillow with bed. *It is believed bed should not be sold alone. > It should be sold only with pillow* > > *10 Blowing with pillows* > > While I was studying in school, blowing with pillows between two was a > game. Now no such games. > > *11. Guest pillows* > > Normally for guests best beds, bed spreads and pillows are kept > separately. After guests depart, bed spreads, bed sheets and pillow covers > are washed and kept. > > *12 My pillow* > > In homes each person has his own pillow/pillows. Most will not get sleep > and feel discomfort, if their pillow is not there. > > *13. Other items as pillows* > > When one is very tired, pillow is not a problem. Or working in a place at > night where work is not completed. *Many use plank as a substitute as > pillow. Many cooks in catering use plank as pillow. * Spreading a thick > cloth makes it a pillow. > > Those *installing telephone exchanges* use thick books like the > telephone directory as pillow. They may wake up in middle and continue the > work they were doing. They will sleep where the work is going on. Some > having spondylitis are advised not to use pillow or bed and simply sleep > on cot. Many use *air pillows* in train in sleeper class where bedspreads > and pillow are not given. > > *14. 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