As recd https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23391917/future-perfect-50-julia-galef-cfar-rationalist “Even when you’re motivated to try to improve your own reasoning and decision-making, just having the knowledge itself isn’t all that effective. The bottleneck is more like wanting to notice the things that you’re wrong about, wanting to see the ways in which your decisions have been imperfect in the past, and wanting to change it.” KR 2 things. 1 Motivation 2 Knowledge. Both are covered by Bhagavat Gita. Krishna was motivating Arjuna for adopting the dharma saving. What will happen if motivation is not yet taken?. The Lord says, “Arjuna, if you leave the battlefield before the battle even begins, people will call you a coward. And if you think that people may call you bad names but that you will save your life by fleeing the battlefield, then My advice is that you’d do better to die in the battle. *akīrtiṁ cāpi bhūtāni **kathayiṣyanti te ’vyayām **sambhāvitasya cākīrtir **maraṇād atiricyate (2 34) *People will always speak of your infamy, and for a respectable person, dishonor is worse than death. Then Knowledge is needed as HE advocated many yogas; so absence of knowledge is unwelcome; and yet at one place he adds an exception: *sarva-dharmān parityajya **mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja **ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo **mokṣayiṣyāmi mā śucaḥ 18 66. *Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. Sri Ramanujar calls it SARANAGATI PARABATHI. vAISHNAVISM IS BASED ON THIS CONCEPT. aLL DHARMAS HAVE THE GRACE TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENCES; BUT sARANAGATI MEANS, ONE HAS TO ENDURE ALL PAINS GIVEN AS TESTING DOSES , WITH HIS NAME CHANTED ALWAYS, which is difficult to endure. Then one does not need any knowledge either. KR IRS 281122
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 21:35, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Julia Galef thinks we should be more like scouts instead of soldiers > Miranda Dixon-Luinenburg > 5–6 minutes > ------------------------------ > > If you buy something from a Vox link, Vox Media may earn a commission. See > our ethics statement > <https://www.vox.com/2018/12/7/18113237/ethics-and-guidelines-at-vox-com>. > > I first met Julia Galef in 2012 at the inaugural weekend workshop of the > Center > for Applied Rationality <https://www.rationality.org/> (CFAR), a > nonprofit that Galef co-founded that same year to teach the concepts and > practical skills of human rationality. > > For CFAR, this means refining techniques for reasoning more accurately, > understanding the world, and making plans that work (and happen on > schedule!). At the retreat, Galef advised a room full of philosophy > students and programmers (and me, a random intensive care unit nurse) on > how to think about probabilities and uncertainty in real-life contexts. > > A decade later, Galef continues to write about and advocate for a concept > that is more important than ever in our irrational age: that we shouldn’t > assume which conclusions must be defended, and need to stay open to > uncertainty. > > She and the other founders of CFAR — who met via the rationality blog > LessWrong <https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/effective-altruism> (for which > I’ve written) — believe that human intelligence alone isn’t enough > <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/f4CZNEHirweN3XEjs/teachable-rationality-skills> > to address the biggest problems facing the world. While intelligence is > responsible for the astounding advances in technology, prosperity, and > quality of human lives over the past several thousand years, it can also be > applied to causing massive harm. > > As the Nobel Prize-winning economist and psychologist Daniel Kahneman > <https://scholar.princeton.edu/kahneman/home> argued in his influential > 2011 book *Thinking, Fast and Slow* > <https://go.skimresources.com/?id=66960X1516588&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbookshop.org%2Fp%2Fbooks%2Fthinking-fast-and-slow-daniel-kahneman%2F943943%3Fean%3D9780374533557&xcust=VoxFuturePerfect50101922>, > human beings are prone to systematic errors: making assumptions or jumping > to conclusions, seeing what we expect to see, and often leaning > over-optimistic on plans and deadlines. > > LessWrong was a space to discuss ways of mitigating and working around > <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/f4CZNEHirweN3XEjs/teachable-rationality-skills> > these very human flaws, but discussions there tended to be abstract. CFAR, > by contrast, hoped to provide concrete, immediately useful training. In the > 2012 workshop I attended, we learned to apply Bayes’ theorem > <https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/11/30/18096751/bayes-theorem-rule-rationality-reason> > — the formalized math for changing your mind > <https://arbital.com/p/bayes_rule/> based on new information about an > uncertain situation — to our thinking and carefully mapped out the > different, sometimes conflicting motivations and goals involved in major > life decisions. > > Galef came to the project with a varied background > <https://juliagalef.com/about-me/>: After completing an undergraduate > degree in statistics, she did social sciences research at Harvard and MIT, > international economics work for Harvard Business School, and spent several > years in New York as a freelance journalist > <https://juliagalef.com/older-writing/>. Shortly before CFAR came > together, she co-launched the podcast *Rationally Speaking* > <http://rationallyspeakingpodcast.org/about-the-podcast/>, where she > interviews a wide range of experts on topics related to rationality and > effective altruism. > > Galef moved on from CFAR in 2016 > <https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/julia-galef-scout-mindset.html#:~:text=In%202016%2C%20Galef%20left%20CFAR,by%20Penguin%20on%20April%2013.> > and pivoted to working on a book about rationality, *The Scout Mindset: > Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don’t* > <https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-scout-mindset-why-some-people-see-things-clearly-and-others-don-t-julia-galef/12475006?ean=9780735217553>. > Published last year, the book delves into the importance of curiosity and > genuinely trying to learn the details of a situation rather than fighting > for a particular side. In Galef’s view, this means acting more like a scout > on the battlefield of debate, rather than a single-minded soldier. > Galef doesn’t claim to have solved the challenges of acting rationally > even for herself. But as she said in a Vox interview > <https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22410374/julia-galef-book-scout-mindset-interview-think> > after the book’s release: “Even when you’re motivated to try to improve > your own reasoning and decision-making, just having the knowledge itself > isn’t all that effective. The bottleneck is more like wanting to notice the > things that you’re wrong about, wanting to see the ways in which your > decisions have been imperfect in the past, and wanting to change it.” > > https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23391917/future-perfect-50-julia-galef-cfar-rationalist > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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