Imagine counting all your ancestors as you trace your family tree back in time. In the nth generation before the present, your family tree has 2*n* slots: two for parents, four for grandparents, eight for great-grandparents, and so on. The number of slots grows exponentially. By the 33rd generation—about 800 to 1,000 years ago—you have more than eight billion of them. That is more than the number of people alive today, and it is certainly a much larger figure than the world population a millennium ago. Our Vedas speak only of 7 generations (if one can remember) which is 2 to the power of 7 is 128 spreads. Every 7th generation there are DNA changes. So, ancestry is defined as only 3 generations of srardham; 6 generations of great great great grandparents. &Th generation is a change of structures. Pravaran indicates your roots. The roots might have twisted somewhere, which we are not aware of. Gotra indicates again the roots where someone might have been in your family genes. It is a group. Hence even though the Vedas say that all who are born in the earth are only Vedics, unless they chose another clan, other than the Vedic cult. Hence only there are no conversion mantras in here. Thus, all on this earth were Vedics prior to 1600 AD. May not be Hindus as Islam and Christianity had arisen already. Thus, a generation is supposed to be 30 years for calculation and 7 generations would amount to 210 years only. Therefore, present Pakistan Muslims may not be Hindus though if any one resided on this earth prior to 210 years and long long ago, might have been a Vedic. Yet the conversion choice landed one differently. However, one can say that some of the first converted parents could have been a Hindu had been a male and converted; or not, as a lady married a foreigner, then even that rights are taken away. Root might be, yet 7th generation cuts off the DNAs. Tamil verse says “etraikkum ezhaer piravikkum unthannodu.” KR IRs 2122
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:56, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > A good answer by you > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday, 1 December, 2022 at 04:00:57 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear folks > > *"Is it true that the ancestors of Pakistanis were Hindus?"* > > Those who from time immemorial have practised Sanatana Dharmam are today > called Hindus. > > Their sacred books are the r'g vedam, the yajur vedam, and the saama > vedam. These texts are in ancient classical Sanskrit, and meant to be > chanted as instructed by learned professors known as purohithars, and to be > studied in secret and only by those accepted as duly qualified > > These books prescribe the worship of the Sun and of the ritual fire as > visible and palpable manifestations of the Divinity. > > Though apparently confined nowadays to India, Nepal, and part of > Indonesia, Sun-worship and Fire-worship have been traced by scholars to > the natives of Central, South, and North America (before the advent of > Christainity), to pious inhabitants of Europe (as evidenced by Stonehenge > in Britain and massive fallen monoliths in Continental Europe), to the > rock-graven geometric patterns of the Australian aborigines, and to the > facial decorations of Pacific Islanders, to massive carved and etched stone > monuments in Africa. > > Known as Bhaaratha Varsham to Hindu-Brahmin priests and scholars, the > stretch of territory from east Mediterranean shore to the Arakan Yoma and > Pegu Yoma in modern Myanmar, was inhabited by practising Hindus. > > Before atheist Buddhism and Jainism spread across boundaries, and was > swallowed up by aggressive Islam, Hinduism was the way of life practised by > the peoples of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand, > Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Tibet, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam. Even today, the > symbol of Japan is the Rising Sun. And Nationalist China's flag > prominently displays the many-rayed Sun. > > The crescent moon of the Hindu god Shiva appears, slightly tilted, on the > top of every Muslim place of worship, and on flags of many Muslim countries. > > So, it can safely be said that, not only Pakistanis, but many other > peoples, near and far from India, were Hindus. > > It can also be said, without fear of legitimate contradiction, that other > creeds being practised today, still have vestiges of Hinduism in their > lives. > > This includes baptism by immersion in flowing water for Jews and > Christians, removing footwear and washing feet by Muslims before entering > places of worship, maintaining a "kosher" kitchen by Jews whereby separate > sets of utensils are prescribed for preparing and for consuming vegetarian > food, fish, and meat, burning incense and waving lights to God by Jews, > making burnt offerings to God by Jews, women being segregated from men by > Jews and Muslims during prayer, chanting sacred texts and singing sacred > songs by Jews, Christians, and Muslims, daily "namaaz" by Muslims, repeated > circumambulation of the most sacred shrine of worship (the Kaaba) by > Muslims, initiation of priests as a distinct group and according them a > special high position in society, even entitling them to different > distinctive attire, contributing to their support and their maintenance for > life. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/EC51D617-02A5-4666-BDCD-22428FD966B8%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/EC51D617-02A5-4666-BDCD-22428FD966B8%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1392356705.4977995.1669893968602%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1392356705.4977995.1669893968602%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZoqqN90dM-jYjzrcNGLBUHP02g%2BYHw7FFwd-F02TuDixAg%40mail.gmail.com.
