Sir,
In your forward translated by you to English, I find the following statements
are wrong
1. There is darsan fee in Guruvayoor temple. Recently I paid 3000-00 rupees for
special darsan of my wife and my son with me. We could complete the darsan with
in 30 minutes
2. In all temples flowers brought by devotees are accepted for sanctum. In
Sabarimalai temple flowers from Madurai are used including sanctum.
3. Limited food feeding after mid noon pooja is there in many temples. It is
with in the temple. I have waited in queue for the food coupon and took food in
Ambalappuzha temple ootupura. There are large feedings with in complex at
Guruvayoor and Vaikkam. Probably you too would have read about Vaikkam Ashtami
and manya sthanam in OOttupura.
4. What is archers? Do you mean archakas?
Gopalakrishnan
On Thursday, 8 December, 2022 at 01:03:10 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
கேரள கோவில்களில் சிறப்புகள்.
அங்கே சிவா, விஷ்ணு பேதங்கள் இல்லை
சைவம், வைணவம்… அதிலும் வடகலை, தென்கலை இல்லை..
ஏன் திருநீறே இல்லை …மஹா தேவர் என்றழைக்கப்படும் சிவசன்னிதானங்களில்கூட !!
சந்தனம் மட்டுமே பிரசாதம்..
ஒரே கோவிலில் சிவலிங்கம், மஹாவிஷ்ணு, பகவதி, சர்ப்பக்காவுகள்தரிசனம் செய்யலாம்..(
பழைமையான கோவில்களிலேயே..!)
தெருவுக்கு ஒரு புதிய கோவில் , அதற்கு ஒருதர்மகர்த்தா குழு என்றெல்லாம் இல்லை..!
கோவிலுக்குள் சாதி சண்டைகள், முதல் மரியாதை, பரிவட்டம் கட்டுதல்இல்லை…
எந்த கோவிலிலும் கட்டண தரிசனம், விரைவு தரிசனம், “ இலவச” தரிசனம்போர்டுகள், வழிகள்
கிடையாது…!
தந்திரிகள் , கருவறை பூஜையில் உள்ளோர், இயற்கை உபாதையைகழிக்கவேண்டியிருந்தால்..
மீண்டும் மீண்டும் குளித்தபின்பே கருவறைக்குள்செல்கிறார்கள்( குருவாயூரில் கண்டது
)…
புஷ்பாஞ்சலி( ்அர்ச்சணை) அவ்வப்போது பெயர், நட்சத்திரம் சொல்லி “சக
குடும்பானாம்..” என்று சப்தமாக சொல்லி , நிமிடத்திற்கு ஒரு ஆரத்தி காண்பித்து
தட்டுக்காசுவாங்குவதில்லை…
மந்திரங்களை மனதுக்குள் உச்சரித்து, முத்திரைகளுடன்புஷ்பாஞ்சலி மொத்தமாக நடக்கும்…
கோவில் பிரசாதம் என்று மெதுவடை, புளியோதரை, அதிரசம் என்றுகோவிலுக்குள் மினி
ஹோட்டல் கிடையாது
கோவில் பிரகாரத்திற்குள், ஏன்வளாகத்திற்குள்ளேயே யாரும் உணவருந்துவதில்லை ..
கோவில் வளாகத்திற்குள் அன்னதானக்கூடங்கள் இல்லை…
நரேந்திர மோதி வந்தாலும் வேட்டி, மேல் வஸ்திரத்துடன்மட்டுமே அனுமதி…(
பத்மநாபசுவாமி ஆலயம்)
இந்திரா காந்தியே வந்தாலும் இந்து அல்லாதவர்க்குஅனுமதி இல்லை ( குருவாயூர் ஶ்ரீ
கிருஷ்ணன் கோவில்)
கம்யூனிஸ்ட் ஆட்சி செய்யும், கிருஸ்துவர்கள் அதிகம்இருக்கும் மாநிலமான கேரளத்தில்
தெய்வ பக்தி அதிகமாகவே உள்ளது..
அங்கே கோவிலை இடிப்பவர்கள் இல்லை.. கடவுளை இல்லை என்றுசொல்பவர்களும் இல்லை!!
கோவிலின் பாரம்பரியத்தை கெடுக்கவும் இல்லை!! கோவில்உள்ளே செல்வதற்கு முன் ஆண்கள்
சட்டையை கழட்டிவிட்டுதான் செல்ல வேண்டும்!!
இதற்கு அங்கு உள்ள எந்த அரசியல்வாதியும் எதிர்ப்புதெரிவிப்பது இல்லை!!
பெண்கள் சில கோவிலுக்குள் செல்லக்கூடாது என்றகட்டுபாட்டை பெண்களே மதிக்கிறார்கள்..
எவ்வளவு பெரிய பணக்காரணாக இருந்தாலும், அரசியல்வாதியாகஇருந்தாலும்.. வரிசையில்தான்
வரவேண்டும்..!! சிறப்பு தரிஸணம் கட்டணம் ஏதும்கிடையாது.. ஏன்?பொதுவாகவேகட்டணமே
கிடையாது!!
அர்ச்சகர்களை தொட்டு பேசமுடியாது!!
அவர்கள் இரண்டு வேளையும் குளித்துவிட்டுதான்கருவறைக்குள் செல்வார்கள்..
பூஜை முடியும் வரை யாருக்காகவும், எதுக்காகவும் பூஜையைபாதியில் நிறுத்துவதில்லை!!
அரைத்த சந்தனம்தான் சாற்றுவார்கள்..
அந்த பிரஸாதத்தை அவர்களிடம் பெற வேண்டுமானால் தக்ஷிணைகொடுத்தால் மட்டுமே
தருவார்கள்.
(ஏன் என்றால் சந்தனம்அரைப்பது அவ்வளவு சிரமம்! அதனாலேயே பணம் வாங்குகிறார்கள்
இதில் தவறில்லை)
ஆனால் இவ்வளவு பணம்தான் தரனும் என்கிற கட்டுபாடுஇல்லை!!!
பக்தர்கள் யாரும் அவர்கள் இஷ்டத்திற்கு கோவிலை சுற்றிஎங்குமே விளக்குஏற்ற
முடியாது.. கோவிலில் எரியும் பொதுவான விளக்கிலேயே கொண்டுவந்த
எண்ணையைவிட்டுவிடவேண்டும்..
அதிகாலை நிர்மால்ய தரிஸணம் உண்டு!! பூஜைநேரத்திற்குபூஜை செய்துவிடுவார்கள்..
யாருக்காகவும் பூஜை நிற்காது..
பூஜைக்கு கட்டணம் செலுத்தியவர்கள் கோவில் நிர்வாகம்சொல்லும் நேரத்திற்கு வந்துவிட
வேண்டும்.. இல்லையேல் அவர்களுக்கக காத்திருந்துபூஜை செய்ய மாட்டார்கள்!!
கோவில் பிரஸாதத்தை விற்பது இல்லை!! கோவிலின் பிரதானகோபுரத்துக்கு வெளியேதான்
கடைகளுக்கு அனுமதி!!
வெளியிலிருந்து கொண்டுவரும் பூக்களையோ,மாலைகளைகளையோ, பிரஸாதங்களையோ,
கருவறைக்குள்அனுமதிப்பல்லை!!
அர்ச்சர்கள் கோவிலை விட்டு வேறு எங்கும், யார் வீட்டுக்கும்பூஜைக்கு கோவில்
நேரத்தில் செல்வதில்லை!!
கோவில் சாற்றும்வரை சன்னதியிலேயே அர்ச்சர்கள்இருப்பார்கள்!!
கோவிலை சுற்றி சுத்தமாக வைத்திருப்பார்கள்!!..
மொத்தத்தில் கோவில்பணத்திற்காக அல்ல. கேரளத்து பாரம்பர்யத்திற்காக!!
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Specialties in Kerala Temples
There are no Shiva and Vishnu Vedas
Saivism, Vaishnavism... even more so, there is no northernor southern culture..
Why is there no Thiruneereu (vibuthi)..even in ShivaSannithans called Maha Deva
!!
Sandalwood is the only offering..
One can have darshan of Shiva Lingam, Maha Vishnu, Bhagwatiand Sarpakakas in
one temple.. (in old temples only..!)
There is no such thing as a new temple on the street and aDharmakartha group
for it..!
No caste fights, no first respect, circumambulation insidethe temple…
No paid darshan, quick darshan, “free” darshan boards,routes in any temple…!
Tantris, those in the sanctum sanctorum, if they have toundergo natural
ablutions.. they go into the sanctum sanctorum only afterbathing again and
again (seen in Guruvayur)…
Pushpanjali (Orthodox) from time to time says the name,star and loudly says
"Saka kuttumbanam.." and performs an aarti perminute and does not take the
plate...
Chanting the mantras in mind and with mudras, Pushpanjalitakes place en masse…
There is no mini hotel inside the temple called Meduvadai,Pulyotharai,
Athirasam for temple offerings
Why no one eats inside the temple premises, inside thepremises..
There are no alms-houses inside the temple complex…
Even if Narendra Moti comes, he will be allowed to wear adress and an upper
garment only... (Padmanabhaswamy Temple)
Even if Indira Gandhi came, non-Hindus were not allowed(Guruvayur Sri Krishnan
Temple).
In Kerala, a state ruled by communists and where there aremany Christians,
devotion to God is high.
There are no people who destroy the temple.. and there areno people who say no
to God!!
Do not spoil the tradition of the temple!! Men must takeoff their shirts before
entering the temple!!
No politician out there is going to object to this!!
Women respect the rule that women should not enter sometemples.
No matter how rich or a politician you are.. you have tocome in line..!! There
is no special darshanam fee.. Why? Generally there is nofee!!
Cannot touch priests!!
They go into the sanctum sanctorum only after bathingtwice.
Puja is not interrupted for anyone or anything till the endof the puja!!
They extract only ground sandalwood..
If you want to get that prasadam from them, they will giveit only if you give
dakshina.
(Why grinding sandalwood is so difficult! That's why theycharge money. Nothing
wrong with this)
But there is no restriction to give only so much money!!!
No devotee can light a lamp anywhere around the temple asper their wish.. The
oil brought in the common lamp should be left in thetemple..
Have early morning Nirmalya darshan!! Puja will be done atthe time of Puja..
Puja will not stop for anyone..
Those who have paid for the pooja must come at the timespecified by the temple
administration.. otherwise they will not wait for themand do the pooja!!
No sale of temple offerings!! Shops are allowed outside themain tower of the
temple!!
Flowers, garlands and offerings brought from outside arenot allowed inside the
sanctum sanctorum!!
Archers do not go anywhere else except temple, no one'shouse for pooja during
temple time!!
Archers will remain in the shrine until the temple isfinished!!
They keep clean around the temple!!..
Overall the temple is not for money. For Kerala tradition!!
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KR: Most of thetemples were owned by kings or noble families. With the
coming of democracy, mostof them are under the management of autonomous
organizations calledDevaswams, which are part of the government. Most of these
temples had hugelands as property, but with the enactment of Land Reforms Act
by the communistgovernment, most of them became very poor. Nevertheless, today
only a verysmall percentage of temples are dilapidated or neglected. This is
because everytemple is visited by the local population in the mornings after a
bath as apart of their culture and tradition, as also they consider the temple
as theirown. This community awareness is so great that wherever they are in
India orabroad, they make it a point to attend the festivals ofthe temple and
contribute to its upkeep. This fact is a little strange, sincethe major
politicians of Kerala are atheists.
Unlike otherstates of India, while the worship in the sanctum is
performed by Namboodirisor Embrandiris, the management of these temples is done
by the rich landlords,assisted by a few Hindu castescalled Ambalavasis. (People
who live or are dependent on the temples). They arenormally strict vegetarians
and have different roles to play in the upkeep of atemple. For example, the
'Poduval' caste is in charge of management, the'Warrier' caste is in charge of
looking after the garden of the temple andproviding flower garlands for worship
in the temple, the 'kurukkals' are incharge of supplying milk to the temple,
the 'Marars' are in charge of playingof musical instruments for the temple, the
'Poduval' and 'Nambeesan' are incharge of singing in front of the deity and the
'Chakyars' are in charge ofpropagating the ancient stories about the temple.
Castes with such delineationof responsibilities in temple affairs are not found
outside Kerala.
Yet anotherinteresting aspect of Kerala temple is the 'Ashta Mangalya
Prasnam'. This is anastrological investigation to ascertain whether a
particular decision by thetemple management has divine approval or to seek
specific remedy for calamitoushappenings around the temple. For example, if the
temple wants to find outwhether a new idol can be consecrated or acquire one
more elephant etc, anashta mangalya prasnam is resorted to. A group of very
capable astrologerscarry out the Ashta Mangalya Prasnam, where there is a
sustained debate as towhat the position of each star means. The majority
opinion is taken as thedivine interpretation and the decision is finalized and
carried out. Both thepeople as well as the Devaswoms strictly follow the
recommendations of theastrologers.
Whomanages Kerala temples?
Kerala has temples that are managed by state-run templeboards, private temple
boards, or by community organisations such as NairService Society (NSS) and
Sree Narayana Dharma Paripalana (SNDP) Yogam, AkhilaBharatha Ayyappa Seva
Sangham, Gowda Saraswath Brahmin Sabha, Dheevara Sabha,Vishwakarma Sabha,
Ayyapa Seva Samithi, pro-BJP Kerala Kshetra SamrakshanaSamithi, apart from
families and trusts.
How many state-run temples does Kerala have?
Kerala has five state-run autonomous Devaswom (temple)boards, which together
manage 3,058 temples in the state. These are TravancoreDevaswom Board (1,250
temples, including famous hill shrine of Sabarimala),Cochin Devaswom Board (406
temples), Malabar Devaswom Board (1,357 temples)Guruvayur Devaswom Board (11)
and Koodalmanikyam board (12). The state also hasa Devaswom Ministry with the
portfolio in the present LDF government being heldby K Radhakrishnan.
Ruling parties appoint their nominees, who are alsopoliticians, as president
and members of the temple governing board. Role ofthese outfits includes
administration of the temples, management of templeproperties and ensuring
facilities and infrastructure for devotees. Meanwhile,temples follow rituals as
per tradition, irrespective of the party in power.Travancore and Cochin Boards
also run educational institutions, includinggovernment-aided colleges and
schools. The boards also run institutions toimpart training in temple art forms.
Staff, including priests, are recruited by therespective boards. The previous
LDF regime brought in a DevaswomRecruitment Board to streamline the process. In
2017, the Travancore board forthe first time appointed Dalits as priests in
various temples under it. Later,the Cochin board also appointed non-Brahmin
priests. Recruitment to the templesunder the boards are done as per Hindu
Religious Institutions Act 1951, exceptfor posts which are bequeathed to a
family member traditionally. As per theexisting norm, SCs get 10% reservation,
while STs get 2% share in recruitment.
Thus what we are reading above is what is happening inprivate devaswom and not
that of interior temples.
KR II 8. Thus, in view of the above, it was not permissible for the High
Court to assume that it had jurisdiction to sit in appeal against its earlier
judgment of 1951 which had attained finality. Even otherwise, the High Court
has committed an error in holding that the said judgment in Marimuthu Dikshitar
(Supra) would not operate as res judicata. Even if the Temple was neither
established, nor owned by the said respondent, nor such a claim has ever been
made by the Dikshitars, once the High Court in earlier judgment has recognised
that they constituted `religious denomination’ or section thereof and had right
to administer the Temple since they had been administering it for several
centuries, the question of re-examination of any issue in this regard could not
arise.
39. Relevant features of the order passed by the Commissioner are that the
Executive Officer shall be incharge of all immovable properties of the
institution; the Executive Officer shall be entitled to the custody of all
immovables, livestock and grains; the Executive Officer shall be entitled to
receive all the income in cash and kind and all offerings; all such income and
offerings shall be in his custody; all the office holders and servants shall
work under the immediate control and superintendence of the Executive Officer,
though subject to the disciplinary control of the Secretary of the respondent
no.6., etc.
40. Section 116 of the Act 1959 enables the State Government to frame rules to
carry out the purpose of the Act for “all matters expressly required or allowed
by this Act to be prescribed”. Clause 3 thereof requires approval of the rules
by the House of State Legislature. The Executive Officer so appointed by the
Commissioner has to function as per assigned duties and to the extent the
Commissioner directs him to perform.
41. It is submitted by Dr. Swamy that rules have to be framed defining the
circumstances under which the powers under Section 45 of the Act 1959 can be
exercised. The Act 1959 does not contemplate unguided or unbridled functioning.
On the contrary, the prescription of rules to be framed by the State Government
under Sections 116 read with Sections 45 and 65, etc. of the Act 1959 indicates
that the legislature only intended to regulate and control any incidence of
maladministration and not a complete replacement by introducing a Statutory
authority to administer the Temple.
42. Section 2(16) CPC defines the term `prescribed` as prescribed by rules.
Further, Section 2(18) CPC defines rules as Rules and forms as contained in the
First Schedule or made under Section 122 or Section 125 CPC. Sections 122 and
125 CPC provide for power of the High Court to make rules with respect to its
own functioning and procedure. Therefore, it appears that when the legislature
uses the term `prescribed`, it only refers to a power that has simultaneously
been provided for or is deemed to have been provided and not otherwise.
Similarly, Section 2(n) of the Consumer Protection Act, 1986 defines prescribed
as “prescribed by rules made by the State Government or as the case may be, by
the Central Government under the Act”.
43. Section 45 of the Act 1959 provides for appointment of an Executive
Officer, subject to such conditions as may be prescribed. The term ‘prescribed’
has not been defined under the Act. Prescribed means prescribed by rules. If
the word ‘prescribed’ has not been defined specifically, the same would mean to
be prescribed in accordance with law and not otherwise. Therefore, a particular
power can be exercised only if a specific enacting law or statutory rules have
been framed for that purpose. (See: Manohar Lal Chopra v. Rai Bahadur Rao Raja
Seth Hiralal, AIR 1962 SC 527; Hindustan Ideal Insurance Co. Ltd. v. Life
Insurance Corporation of India, AIR 1963 SC 1083; Maharashtra SRTC v. Babu
Goverdhan Regular Motor Service Warora & Ors., AIR 1970 SC 1926; and Bharat
Sanchar Nigam Ltd. & Anr. v. BPL Mobile Cellular Ltd. & Ors., (2008) 13 SCC
597).
44. Shri Subramonium Prasad, learned AAG, has brought the judgment in M.E.
Subramani & Ors. v. Commissioner, HR&CE & Ors., AIR 1976 Mad 264, to our
notice, wherein the Madras High Court while dealing with these provisions held
that the Commissioner can appoint an Executive Officer under Section 45 even if
no conditions have been prescribed in this regard. It may not be possible to
approve this view in view of the judgments of this Court referred to in para 41
supra, thus, an Executive Officer could not have been appointed in the absence
of any rules prescribing conditions subject to which such appointment could
have been made.
45. However, Shri Subramonium Prasad, learned AAG, has submitted that so far as
the validity of Section 45 of the Act 1959 is concerned, it is under challenge
in Writ Petition (C) No. 544 of 2009 and the said petition had earlier been
tagged with these appeals, but it has been de-linked and is to be beard after
the judgment in these appeals is delivered. Thus, in view of the stand taken by
the State before this court, going into the issue of validity of Section 45 of
the Act 1959 does not arise and in that respect it has been submitted in
written submissions as under:
(a) The scheme of administration in Board’s Order No.997 dated 8.5.1933 under
the Act 1927 contained various provisions inter- alia that active management
would rest in the committee consisting of nine members who were to be elected
from among the Podhu Dikshitars (clause 4);
(b) At the time of issuing the order of appointment of Executive Officer, the
Podhu Dikshitars were given full opportunity of hearing and the powers and
duties of the Executive Officer as defined by the Commissioner would show that
the religious affairs have not been touched at all and the trustees and the
Executive Officers are jointly managing the temple. The Podhu Dikshitars have
not been divested of the properties and it was not the intention of the State
Government to remove the trustees altogether, rather the Executive Officers
function alongwith the trustees;
(c) In any event, the Podhu Dikshitars are trustees in the temple and they have
not been divested of their properties. The Executive Officer is only
collaborating with the trustees in administering the properties. Their
religious activities have not been touched. Neither the powers of the trustees
have been suspended nor the Executive Officers have been vested with their
powers and the Executive Officers only assist the trustees in management of the
temple. It was not the intention to remove the trustees altogether, nor the
order of appointment of the Executive Officer suspends the scheme already
framed way back in 1939.
46. Be that as it may, the case is required to be considered in light of the
submissions made on behalf of the State of Tamil Nadu and particularly in view
of the written submissions filed on behalf of the State.
47. Even if the management of a temple is taken over to remedy the evil, the
management must be handed over to the person concerned immediately after the
evil stands remedied. Continuation thereafter would tantamount to usurpation of
their proprietary rights or violation of the fundamental rights guaranteed by
the Constitution in favour of the persons deprived. Therefore, taking over of
the management in such circumstances must be for a limited period. Thus, such
expropriatory order requires to be considered strictly as it infringes
fundamental rights of the citizens and would amount to divesting them of their
legitimate rights to manage and administer the temple for an indefinite period.
We are of the view that the impugned order is liable to be set aside for
failure to prescribe the duration for which it will be in force.
Super-session of rights of administration cannot be of a permanent enduring
nature. Its life has to be reasonably fixed so as to be co-terminus with the
removal of the consequences of maladministration. The reason is that the
objective to take over the management and administration is not the removal and
replacement of the existing administration but to rectify and stump out the
consequences of maladministration. Power to regulate does not mean power to
supersede the administration for indefinite period.
Regulate is defined as to direct; to direct by rule or restriction; to direct
or manage according to the certain standards, to restrain or restrict. The word
`regulate’ is difficult to define as having any precise meaning. It is a word
of broad import, having a broad meaning and may be very comprehensive in scope.
Thus, it may mean to control or to subject to governing principles. Regulate
has different set of meaning and must take its colour from the context in which
it is used having regard to the purpose and object of the legislation. The word
`regulate’ is elastic enough to include issuance of directions etc. (Vide: K.
Ramanathan v. State of Tamil Nadu & Anr., AIR 1985 SC 660; and Balmer Lawrie &
Company Limited & Ors. Partha Sarathi Sen Roy & Ors., (2013) 8 SCC 345)
48. Even otherwise it is not permissible for the State/Statutory Authorities to
supersede the administration by adopting any oblique/circuitous method. In Sant
Lal Gupta & Ors. v. Modern Coop. Group Housing Society Ltd. & Ors., (2010) 13
SCC 336, this Court held:
“It is a settled proposition of law that what cannot be done directly, is not
permissible to be done obliquely, meaning thereby, whatever is prohibited by
law to be done, cannot legally be effected by an indirect and circuitous
contrivance on the principle of “quando aliquid prohibetur, prohibetur et omne
per quod devenitur ad illud”. An authority cannot be permitted to evade a law
by “shift or contrivance”.” (See also: Jagir Singh v. Ranbir Singh, AIR 1979 SC
381; A.P. Diary Dev. Corporation federation v. B. Narsimha Reddy & Ors. AIR
2011 SC 3298; and State of Tamil Nadu & Ors. v. K. Shyam Sunder & Ors. AIR 2011
SC 3470).
49. We would also like to bring on record that various instances whereby acts
of mismanagement/maladministration/ misappropriation alleged to have been
committed by Podhu Dikshitars have been brought to our notice. We have not gone
into those issues since we have come to the conclusion that the power under the
Act 1959 for appointment of an Executive Officer could not have been exercised
in the absence of any prescription of circumstances/ conditions in which such
an appointment may be made. More so, the order of appointment of the Executive
Officer does not disclose as for what reasons and under what circumstances his
appointment was necessitated. Even otherwise, the order in which no period of
its operation is prescribed, is not sustainable being ex facie arbitrary,
illegal and unjust.
50. Thus, the appeals are allowed. Judgments/orders impugned are set aside.
There shall be no order as to costs.
KR IRS 81222
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