Jiddu Krishnamurthy on death: "So when you say, what happens to me after I die – right, have you understood sir? – that’s what you are interested in, me that is going to die. What is the ‘me’? Your name, how you look, how you are educated, the knowledge – right? – the career, the family tradition, and the religious tradition, the beliefs, the superstitions, the greed, the ambition. Right? Look at it, sir. All the chicanery that goes on, the ideals that you have – all that is you. Right? Which is your consciousness. That consciousness is common to all mankind because they all so greedy, they are all so envious – right? – they are frightened, they want security, they are superstitious, they believe in one kind of god and you believe in another kind of god, some are communists, some are socialists, some are capitalists – right? – so it is all part… you are all that. So that is the common factor that you are the rest of mankind. Right? You may agree, ‘Yes’, you say, ‘yes that’s perfectly right’, but you go on acting as individuals. This is such… That’s what I… So ugly, so hypocritical.
Now, what is it that dies? You follow what I… If my consciousness is the consciousness of mankind, modified, etc., etc., it is my… the consciousness which I think is me is the common consciousness of man – right? – then what happens when I die? The body is burnt, or buried, or burnt up in an accident – what happens? The common consciousness goes on. I wonder if you realize it. Therefore when one sees… there is a perception of that truth, then death has very little meaning. There is no fear of death then. There is fear of death only when I, as an individual, which is the tradition, which the brain has been programmed like a computer, saying, I am an individual, I am an individual, I believe in god, I believe this, I believe that – the computer can do all that. You understand? Can repeat. (Laughs) So, you see sirs, there is one factor that you miss in all this: love knows no death, compassion knows no death. It’s only the person that doesn’t love or has no compassion is afraid of death. Then you will say, ‘How am I to love?’ Right? How am I to have compassion, as though you can buy it in the market. But if you saw, if you realized that love alone has no death. Sir, that is real illumination – you understand? – that is beyond all wisdom, all words, all kinds of intellectual trappings. So there are some more questions. It is a quarter to nine. You have heard the speaker on several occasions, probably read something he has written or said – I don’t know why you read books; we live on other people’s ideas. Right? We never read the book which is ourselves. We are the history of mankind. Right? That’s obvious. That book is us. And to read that book carefully, never skipping a word, a page, a chapter, but to read the whole book, and the reading of that book cannot be taught by another: no guru, no savior, no master, no psychologist, no professor, nobody is going to help you read that book. That’s the first thing to realize. That you are to read that book by yourself, which is you; you are that book. To read that. Either you read it slowly, page by page, year after year till you die, therefore you have never read it completely – you understand? – or you read it with one glance, the whole book. And that can be done only when the brain is so sharp, so alert, without any motive, without any direction, alert, awake, in which there is no contradiction, no sense of hypocrisy. Then you can read that book without even looking at it; the book is over. Then you will find out for yourself what lies beyond the book. *Chennai – Question & Answer Meeting 2 – 17.01.1981" KR IRS 261222* On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 at 18:46, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you. Jiddu books I adore and have all of them. YK is also read by > me. It is a blessing in disguise and all done by HIM. KR IRS > > On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 at 18:40, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Your alter egos-Ziddu Krishna Murthy, ( Late)Y. Krishna Murthy BE ( Hons) >> IRSE,AGM (Retired)SC Railway,and many others,most great phenomena who >> impact lastingly. >> YM >> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 8:02 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks a lot. I am humbled. No sir. I only compare the western theory to >>> ancient theory of india. Even here I would venture to say why Greek terms >>> and Latin terms, when similar terms do exist in Sanskrit , from which only >>> Greek terminology began. GAIA a Greek word root word in Sanskrit is Ga to >>> move; it also means music and cow. Thus when so many aspire to take out >>> from greek and latin, as having no sight of the Sanskrit, they believe that >>> root is a good format. I am thinking to relate to our literature. KR IRS >>> 251222 >>> >>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 at 17:32, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Mar*The Flow of Theories >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Theo means God. Theories are the flows of enlightenments from God. When >>>> one becomes nature in lush, thick, free and healthy nature, enlightenments >>>> flash into one’s being noted by the Brain but being felt by every cell due >>>> the hormonal flows. The Theories are not stagnant. They vibrate changes. >>>> >>>> The theories strike into every organism. Each organism exhales its >>>> inspiration, which the other organisms inhale and they exhale their >>>> responding contributions. The Biosphere in totality participates in the >>>> formation and growths of theories.They are not the exclusive experiences of >>>> the human only. Every organism has its paradigms, and it connects its >>>> perceptions to its paradigmatic feelings, and exhales into the air. The >>>> exhalations of the various organisms get processed in the air, to be >>>> inhaled by the organisms. The Goddess Gaia, the most beautiful planet of >>>> the Universe, teaches continuously. >>>> >>>> The consciousness of each organism which becomes the continuous >>>> awareness of the changing flows of theories, fuses with the exhalations of >>>> every organism, creating the conscious nature or God. And one simply loses >>>> one’s awareness as a body, as the happiness creates enchantment via >>>> revelations, creates the feeling of identity with nature as one’s own body. >>>> The gigantic invisible spectrum, takes over by continuously giving >>>> feelings, pulling one into the macro identity. >>>> >>>> A theory needs the basic connection to nature to flow in nature’s flow >>>> of theories. Every Theory given by machines, which cannot feel, is really >>>> not a theory. One must go to nature to convert one’s hypothesis into theory >>>> by feeling confirmation from nature by inhaling the messages of nature. The >>>> very phrase ‘Scientific Theory’ is an oxymoron. I am not a student of >>>> Physics. I am also not a phenomenon of versatility like Sri Raja ram >>>> Krishna Murthy.( Somehow the name Krishna Murthy makes one a big genius) >>>> >>>> The subject consciousness cannot be introduced into the subject >>>> Physics, without participation from nature. It must be nature’s >>>> contribution, based on feeling in nature as nature. >>>> >>>> I wish that every University develops big free nature parks, to help in >>>> the growth of Physics, paving the way to the return of Physics into Physis, >>>> the Greek word for essential reality, the root word for physics. >>>> >>>> YM >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> *Mar* >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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