Ecological living is about *protecting and preserving the environment of planet Earth, through recognising the uniqueness of its various ecosystems and species*. Every individual habitat supports all manner of life. HOW TO LIVE ECOLOGICALLY:
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Nature’s wrath is currently wreaking havoc on the entire planet. This situation is not only proving to be detrimental for the human race, but it is also causing severe harm to other sentient species. This undesirable state of affairs is largely caused by human beings, who have broken the cosmic laws and caused environmental degradation to an unprecedented level. All human efforts to preserve Nature in the name of planting trees, restraining the use of plastic and opting for eco-friendly products have had little impact on the health of the planet. The need of the hour, therefore, is total change, wholesome approach, holistic view, and organismic well-being. The Vedas are the world’s oldest texts. They focus on a natural code of conduct and an all-encompassing cosmic law that encompasses every spec of the universe, from a tiny ant to the massive galaxies. In contrast to Western and Abrahamic thought, where the environment is viewed as isolated and human-centric, the Vedic perspective on environment is devoid of any splits. Each life is wholesome and is a vital part of the ‘One Whole Reality.’ This thought makes Bhārata as not only an environmentally protective but also an environmentally conscious nation that propagates ‘Unity in Diversity’. In this regard the Bhagvadgītā states, I equivalently in-dwell in all creatures. I have no likes or aversions towards any life form *mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad avyakta-mūrtinā mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni na chāhaṁ teṣhvavasthitaḥ 9.4 * Further, the Īśopaniṣad asserts: The entirety of cosmos is pervaded by Īśvara who is the ‘Self’ of all movable and immovable entities. It is therefore clear that the entire cosmos is a manifestation of the non-dual ‘Ultimate.’ The Vedas propound that the Divine not only envelops the entire cosmos, but also indwells all entities and manifests Himself as the dog, the sparrow, the Ganges, and the entire material and immaterial world. The following verses shed light on the same, Therefore, according to the Vedas, ‘Environment’ should be understood with the connotation of ‘Brahman’. Thus, there exists unity among all entities that are born and nourished in the compassionate lap of ‘Mother Nature’. The term “Environment*/*Nature” must not be limited to trees, animals, birds, rivers and mountains, rather “It” is internal, external, individual, cosmic, exclusive and non-exclusive. It is to be recognised that it is human’s inner contamination, unrest, and mental greed that manifests as external pollutions, and disharmony. ‘Mother Nature,’ nurtures every being till we respect Her. However, if we try to exploit Her, She responds internally as metal stress, physically as diseases, environmentally as natural calamities, and universally as cumulative disharmony. Outer acts of environmental protection can aid us in our mission to support the cosmos, but they are far from being a permanent cure for cosmic discord. In this regard, Svāmī Vivekānanda aptly states, “The miseries of the world cannot be cured by physical help alone. Unless a man’s nature changes, physical needs will continue to arise and miseries will continue to be felt. No amount of physical help will cure these miseries. Ignorance is the mother of all evils and of the misery that we see. Let man have light, let them be pure, spiritually strong and educated; then alone misery will cease. We may convert every house of the country into a charitable asylum and fill the land with hospitals but the misery will continue to exist until man’s character changes” He who sees the Self in all and all in the Self has no sense of revulsion by the reason of the vision of non-duality. When all beings have been realized as the ‘Self’ there remains no delusion and no sadness.The Vedas regard ‘Nature’ as all-encompassing and holds an intimate relationship with *It*. They refer to ‘*It*’ as not only the ‘Highest Reality,’ but also revere *Its* various manifestations (sun, moon, rivers, birds, etc.) as mother, father, protector, friend, son, and more. ‘Environment’ is that ‘Unitary Principle’ which the Vedas have spoken about repeatedly. All beings of the universe are indwelled, saturated and are that very ‘Principle’ which they mistakenly consider as distinct. This non-dual Vedic vision elevates ‘Mother Nature’ to the highest plinth. As a result, the Vedas instruct us to work for the good of all beings instead of being limited to only the human race. Let us now consider some Vedic averments about Environmental harmony. ‘Bhūmi’ is depicted by the Vedas as a compassionate, benevolent, nurturing, and bountiful ‘Mother’ who nurtures all creatures without discrimination. She is revered, and hymns of Her majesty adorn the entire body of the Vedas. She is the one who bestows cosmic peace and prosperity. Her grandeur can be understood by the following verses, The ‘Earth’ just like the Mother Cow, confers upon all the creatures the gifts of delight. She nurtures and provides for all.[ix] <https://indiafoundation.in/articles-and-commentaries/vedic-averments-for-cosmic-environmental-tranquility/#_edn9> May Goddess Earth, the nourisher of all beings eradicates all evils and lead us to the highest state of being. ‘Āpaḥ’ is regarded by the Vedas as ‘Divine’ ‘Life’, ‘Nectar’ and as the finest of ‘Physicians’. It is no wonder that all important pilgrimages were set up near water bodies. The Vedas declare water as the best of medicines. In Its absence no medicine can work and it is the greatest of healers. It can cure all maladies including genetic and cardiovascular disorders. In this regard the Vedas state: ‘Vāyu’ is the life force, and the cosmic breath. The Vedas contain a number of hymns that extol ‘It.’ The meaning of the word ‘Vāyu’ as the ‘Uniting Ultimate Principle’ has been expounded in the Śatapathabrāhmaṇa,The entire universe is woven in a string and that string is ‘Vāyu’. Unfortunately, the human race has done incalculable harm to ‘It’ while shrouded in ignorance. Polluted air not only endangers humans, but it also harms animals, birds, and puts undue strain on trees and plants. Every year, thousands of humans, animals, and birds die prematurely as a result of air pollution. ‘Ākāśa’ and sound are inextricably linked, and this is the source of noise pollution. Taittiryopaniṣad (Yajurveda) discusses two types of Ākāśa i.e., one within the body and one outside of it. However, human has not only polluted his inner space but is going on polluting the outer spaces. All of this has not only added to the planet’s pollution but in his desire to conquer outer space, he has added to space debris. The Yajurveda advises the human race:Do not destroy the space ‘Agni’ is both divine and purifying. ‘It’ is the destroyer of greed, passion, and ignorance on a philosophical level. At a mundane level, it is the destroyer of negativities and diseases. In a spiritual sense, It burns away selfish desires and leads to a state where cosmic welfare becomes one’s vision and mission. According to the Yajurveda’s Navagṛhasūktam:The light of wisdom Agni! Let us be vigilant while we work for ourselves and for all creatures of the cosmos. May we all remain together, even with the departed souls of our forefathers with whom you connect us like a thread. Therefore, it is clear that Fire is meant for the benefit of all. Unfortunately, humans manipulate it in the most atrocious manner. Fire is used to burn down forests and various animals that live in them in order to capture land for the sake of high-end infrastructure. It is used to incite riots and destroy national property, as well as to burn a young girl for dowry. All of these crimes sprout from tainted internal states, and as long as we do not burn the dirt that we hold within, we will go on destroying the world. The Vedic verses revere forests, trees, plants and herbs as conscious divine beings that provide Amṛta (oxygen), Ouśadhi (herbs), Anna (food), Phala (fruits), Puṣpa (flowers), Cāyā (shade), Saundarya (beauty) and Jīvan (life). Tree are encrusted with divinity and so, the five parts that they have – Jada (roots), Prakāṇda (trunk), Śākhā (branches), Patra (leaves), Phala (fruits) and Puṣpa (flowers) are a boon to the universe. They are called Viśadūśaṇī’ because they are the destroyers of poison (pollution). Therefore, uprooting a tree means uprooting the entire cosmos, and cutting down a tree means cutting down one’s own survival. In this regard the Vedas make it clear,Extend no violence towards Trees Do not cut or uproot them for they are the destroyers of pollution Forests, trees, herbs and mountains are said to be the protectors of all. The Ṛigveda further highlights, ‘The Divine trees and curative herbs appeared three Yugas before the emergence of Deities and billions of years before the origin of any other being. The ‘Divine’ manifested as trees, herbs and plants at various places on the earth. These Godly appearances were meant to destroy pain, suffering, ailments and heal wounds of all living creatures. They further remove infections and weakness. They have a positive and wholesome effect and lead to complete wellness. Trees and herbs nurture, protect and bless all lives with material and spiritual advancement like a mother and thus they are also referred to as ‘Mātraḥ’. The Holy Trees and plants lead us to Mokṣa by destroying diseases, misery and take us beyond the realm of birth and death. Trees and herbs have supreme powers and those creatures who submit to them are bestowed with lifelong wellness. Without any discrimination between man and animal, these saintly trees and herbs have equally blessed all beings. The Vedas also declare that the plant kingdom is conscious and sensitive, like humans and animals. They are born, they die, they experience pain-pleasure, they sleep, they are susceptible to illness, and they bleed when they are broken, uprooted, or cut down. The Mahābhārata in this regard states: “Trees and plants drink water through their roots and make their food through sunlight. They digest the food due to the presence of Vāyu and Agni that is within them. When they are injured, they experience unimaginable pain. They are affected by pleasant and foul smells. They do fall sick and feel weakness and wellness. A creeper exactly knows how and where to climb, this proves that they have a divine vision (in Indian philosophy vision and sight are separate. A being may not have sight which is connected to material eyes but it has a vision which is connected to the inner states of being). Despite being physically strong, trees are extremely sensitive to weather, kind-harsh words, pure-impure thoughts, good-bad touch’. ‘Vana’ is home to millions of celestial beings. Forests add to the aesthetics of the planet. The Vedas, in fact, see the entire universe as a forest in which all beings must live according to their Dharma. However, today, man has turned a deaf ear to the Vedic voices. Deforestation has resulted in the destruction of biodiversity, decreased oxygen, extinction of plant and animal species, damaged ozone layer, global warming, natural disasters, and climate change. “in the materials of Agnihotra some elements produce the formaldehyde gas(CH 2O) which spreads in the atmosphere without undergoing any change. Even carbon dioxide (CO2) transforms to a large extent into formaldehyde gas (CH2O) which is a strong germicide. This gas is activated only when it comes in contact with water vapours. This is the reason why the Havankuṇda is sprinkled with water from all four sides.” ‘Maṇtra’ is a sacred and scientific collection of words, sounds, phonemes, and syllables. It is a codification of a certain cosmic force that links the material world and the Supreme Consciousness. Maṇtras are the primordial rhythms of creation that bring about harmony within and without, on an individual as well as on the cosmic level, in the Pañcamāhābhūtas and for the sake of Sarvbhūtahita. “If a man desires Śyena (inflicting injury upon another), one must do so entirely because he wishes and not because of any text” The Practice of ‘Ahiṃsā’ is the foundation of Indian thought and appears in the Śatapathabrahman as ‘Non-injury’ with the connotation of morality. The Vedas repeatedly instruct that animals must not be harmed. However, man’s self-centred approach has driven him to purposefully misconstrue the Vedic voices. The Yajurveda declares: “Animals are not to be killed or harmed . They are the bedrock of a prosperous society. Animals should be protected and must live fearlessly Today, ‘Animals, Birds, and All Sentient Beings’ exist in fright. Rooted in ignorance, man has exploited them to the point of absurdity. He slaughters them savagely for their skin, organs, hanging them up as a piece of décor, or just devouring them as a meal. The pitiful condition of these celestial beings is a question mark on human morals, ethics, education and life. Contrary to this view, animals have been revered in the Vedas as ‘Ṣodaśkalāḥ (bejewelled with sixteen celestial arts) and as ‘Maḥ (worthy of worship for their love and grace) They have adorned Indian culture, art, architecture, philosophy, religion, traditions and life in general. The Vedic texts consider them to be the manifestation of God (Vibhūtis). In this regard states the Vibhūtiyogaḥ of the Śrīmad Bhagwadgīta, Amongst the horses I am ‘Ucchaṣvā’ that emerged during the churning of the ocean. Amongst the elephants, know Me as ‘Airāvta’, Amongst the cows, I am ‘Kāmadhenu’. Amongst snakes, I am the ‘King Vāsuki’. Amongst the Nāgas, I am ‘Ananta’ and amongst water beings, I exist as ‘Varuṇadeva’. Amongst the animals, I am ‘Mṛga’, ‘Siṁha’ and amongst birds, I am ‘Gruḍa’. As a purifier of all lives, I am ‘Vāyu’. Amongst the beings of sea, I am ‘Magara’ and amongst sacred rivers, I am ‘The Gaṇgā. I exist as the Ātman in the hearts of all living creatures and I am the beginning, middle and end of all these beings. Each animal, bird and insect is associated with a Deity and embodies Its energies. Thus, revering that animal necessitates adoring that Deity. Bulls, dogs, snakes and scorpions are associated with Lord Śiva. Elephants are worshiped as ‘Gaṇeśa’. Lions are associated with ‘Ādi Śakti Durgā’. Crocodiles are connected to ‘Goddess Gaṇgā and Yamunā’. Further, in order to re-establish Dharma, ‘Mahāviṣṇu’ appears as a Maṭsya, Kūrma, Varāha, Nṛsiṃha and more. Even the smallest of insect is considered Divine. ‘Bhrāmarī’, a wasp who ended the demon Arunāsūra is associated with ‘Goddess Pārvatī’ Gaumātā holds an extraordinary place in Vedas. Her physical, religious, economic, environmental, social, cosmic, and spiritual vaue is extolled in the Vedas. She is revered as Goddess Lakṣmī[l <https://indiafoundation.in/articles-and-commentaries/vedic-averments-for-cosmic-environmental-tranquility/#_edn57>and must never be killed or harmed (Aghnayeyam). Vedas annonce Her as a noble being endowed with splendour, divinity, purity, beauty, nonviolence, tranquillity, knowledge, compassion and the ability to nourish all beings A society that invests in Her health and wellness flourishes by leaps and bounds. ‘Ṣvāna (dog)’ is declared as Godly in the Vedas. The Rudramsūkta of the Kṛṣna Yajurveda states, I bow to Rudra, who controls the dogs, who is Himself the dog and who protects the dogs The Atharvaveda associates Rudra (A fearsome form of Lord Śiva) with Dogs The Goddess Dog ‘Saramā’ appears in the Ṛgveda. The text also refers to Dogs as divine messengers and states, The Vedas advocate an organic cosmology that is devoid of distinctions which makes it a universal and all-encompassing. It is crucial to recognise that these timeless scriptures are incredibly scientific and have influenced many modern breakthroughs, hypotheses, researches and studies. The Vedas are not at odds with science and technology for as long as it serves to promote overall well-being. Only when modern science wishes for human-centric development at the cost of ruthlessly destroying forests, water bodies and animals is when there is a prominent gap between Vedic thought and modern science. Only when the entire cosmos is taken into account with unified vision of wholesome welfare of beings will science be seen as all-encompassing and complete. At present science exists in a very limited space. It is for the humans, of the humans and by the humans. All its developments stand upon the graves of innumerable sentient beings and on the delicate body of ‘Mother Nature’. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx HOW SCIENCE THINK ABOUT Step 1: Turn it off Energy conservation is one of the most important things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/what-is-a-carbon-footprint/>. Leaving your electricals on standby uses unnecessary energy – turn them off at the wall when you’ve finished using them, and you could see huge improvements. Step 2: Invest in eco-friendly technology Want to go further than simply turning it off? If you need to get new appliances, check their energy-efficiency rating to ensure they’re as efficient as possible. This way, you’re using much less energy for the time that the product is on and reducing your energy output. Looking to make bigger changes at home? You could look into getting a heat pump <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/products/heat-pumps/> to heat your home, and move away from gas or oil central heating for good. Step 3: Switch to renewables Choosing 100% renewable electricity is a great eco-friendly tip for any home – and is one of the biggest things you can do to help tackle the climate crisis. Unfortunately, due to the current situation in the energy market <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/about-us/whats-happening-in-the-energy-market/>, it’s best to stay with your existing supplier right now. But you can sign up to our newsletter to stay up to date with news about renewables and climate action, and to hear when you’re able to switch again. Bottom of Form Step 4: Eat less meat Being careful with what you’re consuming is at the heart of being more environmentally friendly, and cutting down on the amount of meat you eat can have a huge impact. Not having red meat and eating a more plant based diet – even if it’s just for two or three days a week – can have quite a significant impact on reducing your carbon footprint. Step 5: Don’t waste food Waste not, want not. Did you know that 9.5 million tonnes <https://www.businesswaste.co.uk/food-waste-2022-the-facts/> of food is wasted in the UK every year? This isn’t just a huge waste of food and money, it adds to the amount of CO2 and methane being created in landfills. Step 6: Compost If your food as gone too far beyond its ‘best by’ date then you could compost it rather than putting it in the bin. Not only will this help create a natural fertiliser and keep your garden green, it’ll also reduce the amount of waste going to landfill – and as it won’t break down anaerobically, there will not be a build-up of methane gas. If you can’t compost at home, you could find out if there are any local compost schemes available, or if your local authority collects food waste alongside other recycling. Make sure to only compost organic waste to avoid unwanted pests. Step 7: Recycle everything Chances are that if you’re pursuing a more eco-friendly lifestyle then you’ll already be recycling. But could you improve your recycling-ability (now a word)? You can recycle almost everything, from batteries to paper to crisp packets to cars. Before you throw it away, take a minute to find out if you could recycle it instead. Step 8: Try to cut out plastic Plastic seems to have found its way into every single aspect of our lives. However, giving it up isn’t as difficult as you might think – bring a canvas bag with you when you go shopping, buy your fruit and veg loose and stop buying bottled water. There are also more and more shops around where you can bring your own container for things like nuts, seeds, pasta, oats and more – plus get refills for soap, shampoo, washing up liquid and laundry detergent. Step 9: Use LED light bulbs Not only do LED light bulbs last longer than conventional bulbs, they’re far more efficient too! This means that you’ll be using less power and having to replace your light bulbs less frequently – everyone’s a winner. What’s more, they’re available in a range of brightness and designs so you can really tailor the lighting to your needs or to suit the room. Step 10: Insulate your home Homes that aren’t well insulated are much harder to keep warm when it’s cold, and cool when the weather is hot. Insulating your home is one of the best eco-friendly tips <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/saving-energy-at-home/> for your home that we can offer you. A well insulated home is also the first step to upgrading your home’s heating system – find out more about our heat pump service here <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/products/heat-pumps/>. Step 11: Have your food shop delivered Home delivery is like the public transport of groceries. Instead of having 20 odd cars make their way to the supermarket – one van drives around delivering to everyone in the area (and many supermarkets are upgrading to an electric fleet, too). Additionally, it means you’re less likely to impulse buy which can help to reduce any waste food. Step 12: Fix it, don’t throw it Repairing or fixing something is more environmentally friendly than simply throwing it away, although the latter may seem easier and cheaper sometimes. The internet gives you access to the tools and information you need to fix practically anything, and if you still can’t fix it then why not try and turn it into something else? Step 13: Use eco-friendly cleaning products A lot of cleaning products have a lot of harmful chemicals in them that aren’t environmentally friendly to create or dispose of. In fact, repeated exposure to these cleaning products can affect your health as well as the environment. Green cleaning products use more natural and organic methods of cleaning which are far less harmful. Here are some great time-honoured tips from the National Trust <https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/blog/2017/08/22/ultimate-guide-eco-friendly-living/> . Step 14: Consider your transport If you can make the journey by foot, bike or public transport, then do it. Driving, unless you’re in an electric vehicle, isn’t very eco-friendly and can really add to your carbon footprint. When you do have to drive, make sure that you get the most out of your vehicle by keeping the speed down, ensuring tyres are properly inflated and that the engine is running smoothly. If you want to find out more about EVs, sign up to Plugged-In, our newsletter dedicated to electric vehicles. Get Plugged-In Want to know more about electric vehicles? Sign up to our EV newsletter for all of the latest news stories, events and vehicle releases. Top of Form Bottom of Form Step 15: Use your microwave Honestly, you’d be surprised by how much more energy efficient microwaves are compared to conventional ovens. While you’re already surprised, you may as well continue to be shocked with some of the awesome things you can cook in a microwave <https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/collection/microwave-recipes> (hint: it’s not just ready meals). Or if you are regularly cooking small batches, you could join the air fryer <https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/oven-air-fryer-slow-cooker-or-hob-comparing-the-cheapest-ways-to-cook-a0kmu7Z7tBhJ> hype. Step 16: Buy local >From clothes to food, the closer to home these products are made and bought, the less carbon is created with their transportation. Not only that, but you’ll be supporting the local economy which means that in time you’ll likely have even more local items to choose from. Step 17: Don’t fly Flying is one of the most environmentally damaging things you can do – just flying from Bristol to Edinburgh produces 0.15 metric tons of carbon!* Why not stay a bit closer to home and explore some of Britain’s beautiful nature? Camping, hiking and cycling are all great things to do in the UK and are extremely low carbon. .Step 18: Grow your own Growing your own vegetables isn’t just a good way to save money, it’s also a great way to cut down your carbon footprint and be environmentally friendly. Don’t have any outside space? Windowsill boxes are a great way to brighten up your view, filter the air coming into your home and offer plenty of space for herbs and small vegetable patches. Step 19: Plant some trees Ecological sustainability is very important when it comes to eco-friendly living. Without a stable ecosystem, things start to fall apart. Making sure that we’re planting more native trees to replace those that have been felled to make room for developments is something that more people and businesses need to do to protect the environment and improve air quality. Step 20: Choose your personal care wisely When it comes to personal hygiene there are several things you need to be careful to avoid for a truly eco-friendly lifestyle. The most damaging of these is microbeads, which are small bits of solid plastic which aren’t biodegradable and make their way into watercourses and ultimately end up damaging the environment by entering the food chain. Make sure that your body wash, toothpaste, face scrub and other products do not contain these beads. In addition to this, avoiding chemicals and opting for natural cleaning products – like those sold by Lush <https://uk.lush.com/> is the best way to keep yourself and the environment clean. KR: Can anyone do all these? NO never. If one were to say, adopt a few things at least, then, for A group few not adopted but insisting with others, may be different in the maintenance of the eco-friendly atmosphere. So there will always be breaking the rules. May be if the living is made contented, well, all will get along. But ego and pride thwarts the ECO. KR IRS 10123 On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 18:27, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar*The Ego Torment > > > > How does it feel, when everyone and every life form approves you, accepts > you, partners with you, making you identify with all of them? Nature > automatically propels you to become part of nature. You forget your ego. > The basic reality is, you are changing continuously, and egomania, arrests > you in the ego prison. When you analyze and analyze, you ultimately > confront the abstract and formless reality-you, as feelings and emotions > and as a participant in the photon synthesis of the electromagnetic waves. > The very objective of nature is to make you become part of nature. You > become part of nature by feeling nature and not by assuming that you are > separate from nature and for science you have to observe or even tamper > nature, as a separated and independent observer. At the most ultimate > fundamental level all of us are striving to join the electromagnetic waves, > by achieving the speed of light, to become part of the space-time-less > universe of vacuum. We must become part of nature in this basic essence of > life. > > The observer attitude called the scientific outlook needs the basic > emotional separation from nature, ultimately making you the egocentric > egomaniac. Egomania makes one indifferent towards emotions and makes one > the emotionless machine. But breathing leads to smelling, which leads to > sensing, creating response from you which takes you to the ocean of > emotions-the troposphere. > > For the observer attitude, you have to swim against the tide of emotions, > the tides of air. At the most basic level, scientific investigation means, > taking holiday from nature, from your basic componentship in nature. As > that is not possible, we have taken to mechanization, substituting every > activity with a machine. The disuse of natural faculties is making them > freeze. > > And today, thanks to the takeover by technology, we no longer know how it > feels to be part of nature. > > There is a gigantic unseen and abstract emotions laden wave system in the > troposphere, which makes you participate in the emotional understanding by > the biosphere as a whole. There was once the basic emotional connect among > all the life forms of the Biosphere.Today,we do not even realize that, that > very basic feature of living, the basic emotional connect has been > destroyed by technology. > > As we lost the flow of approval from nature, we clutch to our egos, to > pluck some approval and appreciation from others, who are also immersed in > their own egos. The result is open or hidden basic selfishness. > > The utter selfishness is making us only use nature and not participate > emotionally with nature. We are using technology to destroy nature and we > call it the economic life. > > We need ecological life more than economic life. > > YM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZor8zpT4QLfZVui_UzDwc-bGNwwaenO4LjEXEiae_5WXKQ%40mail.gmail.com.
