My dear Gopalakrishnan You always expose the foolishness of your mind; also when cornered you try to jump out of the ring by accusing the opposite retelling it shall end. I do not send anything without authentic verifications. I knew ity as I read a lot and what I am hearing today was only what I read in the past. Even without thinking my memory pallet will throw me the dice. And I reproduce what the ancient people said in their words, because nothing I need to write further. Original is only a cock and bull story. You are carried away by your avivekam and refuse to accept. If not I won't be able to send in a short notice once read . Your stuff is older than your age. And many are fallacies of the nth orders. 90% of Quora is only gossip. Why his head is red and not others is not science. You think your friends on quora are intelligent because you do not know anything about it. So you always go with people and then throw them off. Maybe one day quora will also be thrown out. Thank you for admitting that you do not verify. Don't accuse others. Have you sent anything so far against any of my writings? Because there is none. So zip your mouth and sit properly to conduct yourself.or send it to your foolish master for abusive language. So many of us are only telling to to correct yourself but an ass is an ass is an ass. KR IRS 29123
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 23:31, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr Rajaram, > > You write, copy paste - Do you verify? Even forward You do not add so. > Your aim is only to provocate me and start exchanges. I* stop with this. > Your bad habit like this will never change. Look at dictionary for the > meaning of gossip. * > Gopalakrishnan > > On Friday, 20 January, 2023 at 09:41:38 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > From my content you must have known that the q and a is only a gossip. You > may not know much. That is not a problem. Posing is a problem. You yourself > vouschafe to it by your tagged certificates. Will anyone write anything > without proper verification? You said it is error prone and unverified and > yet write as of. > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 8:02 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > MR Rajaram, > > Open your eyes. Mr APS Mani has abused on the forward of Kalapani. I have > replied him. Even before his response you write on my response to him. > Hence I wrote back to you. Where did I gossip? You are creating troubles. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Friday, 20 January, 2023 at 08:38:20 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > No gopala u fit in so squarely for conducting gossips and abusing all > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 7:06 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > The proverb fits better to you. > > On Friday, 20 January, 2023, 08:06:49 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Even that proverb is not spelt properly. If that was act of shaving the > cat, what is the name for Q&A from Quora gossip to name? No words. There > is another proverb in tamil. Aadatheriyadha.......medai Konal endraalaam. K > R IRS 19123 > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 6:08 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > There is a Tamil saying- Velayillatha ambittan, poonayae chorachan. Your > response reminds me the same > > On Thursday, 19 January, 2023 at 09:12:40 pm IST, APS Mani < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > My comment was meant for Mr GK > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:10 PM APS Mani <[email protected]> wrote: > > Silly summaries on the exposure of a gruesome tale. For you everything is > like 'sappadu' and nothing more and no serious feelings also. > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:48 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Mr Sekar, > > Thank you for reading the forward and responding with additions of your > feelings on reading the forward. > > I have seen films Kalapani acted by Mohanlal and Kappalottiya Thamizhan > acted by Late Sivaji Ganesan Yes. The incidents and descriptions told in > the forward is touching. > > It is our own Indians were traitors, who helped the British to do so many > nasty things. Very few of the Britishers were good like Peter Pandian who > worked sincerely and helped Indians, as read from writings > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday, 19 January, 2023 at 08:33:45 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > It was heart wrenching to read the type of tortures our valiant freedom > fighters had to undergo. We pray for the departed souls of all those who > fought for our freedom, although, unfortunately, only one or two families > had been credited with for our freedom. Veer Savarkar is being mocked by a > section of our ungrateful population. > > If you had seen the Tamizh film " Kappalotiya Tamizhan", you would have > shed tears for the sufferings the true children of Bharat Mata like VOC, > Subramanya Siva, Bharathiyar, Vanchnathan and countless others. > > Unbelievably, a few thousand Britishers were able to subjugate nearly 30 > crores of Indians - it was possible because of our Traitors and Desh > Drokis, in the guise of ICS officers, Police and others who helped the > British administration. Without these traitors the British could not have > ruled over us for so long. These traitors were partners in crime to all the > atrocities that happened to our freedom fighters. > > We are an ungrateful Nation sir, we have deliberately suppressed the names > of so many of our local Heroes, which are now slowly coming to light. We > celebrated our Invaders but forgot those who stood and fought for us and > sacrificed their lives for us. > > Pranams to all those noble souls. God bless their souls. > > N Sekar > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:45 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 > <[email protected]> wrote: > > What are the dark secrets of Kalapani jail which is also called as > Cellular jail in Andaman that every Indian should know?- FORWARD > > Girish Kumar (गिरीश कुमार),Studied at St. Francis De Sales High > SchoolUpdated Aug 31 > > " KALAPANI "....The name itself brings chills down the spines. *Life here > would be filled with torture, hunger and loneliness*. They would be > worked like slaves. Some would go mad, others would be driven to suicide. > This place would form one of the darkest chapters in India’s struggle for > freedom. *Below are the real facts of Cellular Jail in which Britishers > tortured our Indians* in such a way that prisoners wish they could die > instead of this brutal torture. > > *Source : All the information is taken from documentary, books and various > internet sources.* > > *1) The Cellular Jail is also, termed as Kala Paani. Kal* means “time or > death” while Paani means “water“. The name itself gives shivers to > prisoners. > > *2) Construction of this Cellular jail started in the* year 1896 and > ended in 1906 under the advise of the Demon named *" Charles James > Lyall".* The main intention to build this jail was to decrease the > spirits of our Indian freedom fighters who fought against Britishers. > *Whenever > Britishers think that they have threat against a person, then they would > simply put them in this jail.* > > *3) Cellular Jail is a massive three-storeyed structure* with seven wings > of unequal lengths, radiating from a central watch tower, shaped like > spokes of a wheel as shown in the below figure. > > *4) Once you go in then it is highly impossible to escape* because your > movements are constantly observed by guards. The watch tower housed the > alarm bell and guardsmen kept an eye on the prisoners all the time. The > concept of this design is that the prisoners literally have no idea whether > they are being watched or not. > > *5) If you manage to escape from guards you have to swim across the sea* > with your wounded body which I think it is highly impossible. And also > there is a small island nearby this jail and if you manage to reach there > by facing difficulties, you will be killed by wild animals or tribes living > there. > > Even if you manage to escape from these wild animals and tribes then you > will see nothing but sea so death is the only option. This is the view from > cellular jail. 👇 > > *6) Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Batukeshwar Dutt,* Barindra kumar Ghosh, > Bhai Parmanand, Ganesh Damodar Savarkar, Hare Krishna Konar, Mahavir Singh, > Mohan kishore Namadas, Mohit Moitra, Sachindra Nath Sanyal, Shiv Verma, > Sohan Singh Bhakna, Sudhangshu Dasgupta, Yogendra Shukla were some famous > revolutionaries who were tortured in this Cellular jails. > > *7) It has 696 cells, one for each person. The name* Cellular Jail is > derived from its unique feature as it has only cells and no dormitories. *Each > cell measures 13 1/2 ‘x 7’,* secured by a heavy iron grill door with a > specially designed latch system. Inadequate and congested jail. > > *8)Besides the barred door, the cellular wing itself* had prison bars > giving the whole area a double security. > > *9) Prisoners were forced to work on the oil grinding* mill was all the > more terrible and caused several deaths. > > *10)The most difficult work was coir-pounding and oil-grinding*. Each one > was given the dry husk of twenty coconuts. The husk had first to be placed > on a piece of wood and then to be beaten with a wooden hammer till it > became soft. Then the outer skin had to be removed. Then it was dipped in > water and moistened and then again one had to pound it. *By sheer > pounding the entire husk inside dropped off, only the fibers remaining*. > These fibers had then to be dried in the sun and cleaned. Each one was > expected to prepare daily a roll of such fibers weighing one seer. > > *11)Punishment was inhuman, it ranged from extra* hours on the grinding > mill to standing handcuffed for a week, to bar-fetters for six months, to > confinement in solitary cells, to four days of starvation diet and > crossbars for ten days, a punishment which compelled the victim to keep his > legs apart. > > *12) If they fail to complete the task which were* assigned to them, then > that person would be tied on flogging stand wearing punishment dress(which > is shown below) and then he gets continuous blows on his buttocks and > purposefully they would hit on the same spot until the skin layer is blown > away. Below are the pictures of that punishment 👇 > > *13) There was no light in those prisons and was* completely pitch dark. > Only one prisoner was kept in each prison and there is no chance to > communicate with others. > > *14) Three bowls were given to the prisoners. One is* to urinate and pass > stools ,one is for drinking water and the other is for eating food. Those > three bowls were kept in their respective prisons. *It was not sufficient > for prisoners to urinate because the bowl was too small so prisoners used > to urinate on the floor and eat on that same floor as well*. There are no > washrooms and bedrooms in this cellular jails. *Those bowls were cleaned > out by the prisoners when they were out the next morning.* > > *15) Daily after working hard for hours prisoners* would get unhygienic > food which consists of worms, mosquitoes and stones. > > *16) Dirty Rain water was given for prisoners to drink.* > > *17) Many Prisoners died in those prisons after* getting exposed to these > unhygienic conditions. > > *18) Mahavir Singh, Mohan Kishore , Mohan Moitra* started hunger strike > till 45 days for providing unhygienic food and for not having toilet seats > but instead *Britishers started a process called force feed where one is > forced to eat food against his will. *After doing so, those food > particles got stuck in their wind pipes and they died eventually. Their > bodies were thrown into the Andaman waters. > > *19) The place where prisoners were given meager* meals, right opposite > to that are the gallows. Though closed within a building, the cries of the > men being hung could be easily heard across the mess. It was designed so > that psychologically it would affect the other prisoners who ate in the > mess. > > *20) Veer Savarkar and his brother Babarao* Savarkar were put in > different prisons. Until two years they didn't had any idea that they were > in same hell. > > *21) Britishers made our freedom fighters to build* other jails for > themselves without knowing that they will be placed in those prisons which > they have made with their own hands. > > *22) Those who fight against Britishers were forced to* drink Urine and > eat poop. > > *23)You will be surprised to know that prisoners were* tied to the mouth > of cannons and they were blown up. > > *24) Barindra kumar Ghosh who is one of the* greatest revolutionaries of > India mentioned in his book - "The suffering we had to undergo was perhaps > entirely due to our destiny. No individual person could be held responsible > for that. All credit should be given to the jail regulations only and > perhaps to a wilful God.". > > 25)Records suggest around 80,000 Indians were sent to Andaman as > punishment over a period of some 80 years from 1860. Thousands of them were > shot, hanged or tortured to death. > > 26)This jail was later taken over by the Japanese troops in the year 1942 > at the time of World War II. > > *27) Scotsman David Barry, the jailor between 1909* and 1931, was > infamous for his insane cruelty. “While you are here, I am your god,” was > the cry with which he welcomed prisoners. > > *28)David Barry(jailer) once asked Ullaskar Dutta to* glean three litres > of oil in a day. Ullaskar refused because even oxen can glean only two > litres a day. They fettered his arms raised to the ceiling, and his feet to > the ground. He stood motionless for three days for he could not move. When > they untied him finally, he collapsed senseless. He went mad after he woke > up. It is believed that some of the prisoners went mad while going through > this brutual torture. > > *29) Do you know what are the demands of our* freedom fighters in this > cellular jail? > > We want soap to clean ourselves.We want beds to sleep on.We want edible > food.Let us study for we are political prisoners.Allow us to communicate > with each other. > > *In the end, the British relented and accepted the prisoners’ demands*. I > think you can understand the pain and frustration our beloved freedom > fighters who have experienced in this prison. *Finally prisoners were > sent home between September 1937 and January 1938.* > > *30)The Sikhs have made a lot of sacrifices in the* freedom struggle and > their number was the second highest even in the list of political prisoners > imprisoned at the Cellular Jail. This is really great and sad as well > because their names are completely whitewashed. Here is the list👇. Below > numbers belong to only famous freedom fighters but we really don't know how > many real fighters were imprisoned here. > > *Spending a single day in this jail is like nightmare for everyone*. Just > imagine the condition of Veer Savarkar who was imprisoned here for almost > 13 years. Savarkar, then aged 28, was convicted for revolting against the > Morley-Minto reforms and was sentenced to 50-years imprisonment and > transported on 4 July 1911 to the infamous Cellular jail in the Andaman and > Nicobar Islands and was released on 6th January 1924. > > *The walls of this cellular jail truly knows the real pain of our freedom > fighters*.We should be really thankful to these legends. Their sacrifice > cannot be measured in words and saddest part is even after experiencing > trauma, their true stories are not mentioned in our so called social text > books and how can we expect coming generations to remember them? > > *A big Salute to all the freedom fighters who fought* for us selflessly > and sacrificed their life after experiencing dreadful punishments.The > reason we are enjoying today is all because of the freedom fighters who > sacrificed their lives. Forgetting our freedom fighters is like forgetting > our country. > > *If you are really interested to know how exactly our* revolutionaries > had spent their deranged life in kalapani jail, then definitely I would > recommend you all to read this book.👇 > > *Respected friends,* > > I found the reading quite interesting and thought of forwarding. *Whether > there are still more facts or exaggeration is not verified*. 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