What Is A Singularity? Ever since scientists first discovered the existence of black holes in our universe, we have all wondered: what could possibly exist beyond the veil of that terrible void? In addition, ever since the theory of General Relativity was first proposed, scientists have been forced to wonder, what could have existed before the birth of the Universe – i.e. before the Big Bang?
Interestingly enough, these two questions have come to be resolved (after a fashion) with the theoretical existence of something known as a Gravitational Singularity – a point in space-time where the laws of physics as we know them break down. And while there remain challenges and unresolved issues about this theory, many scientists believe that beneath veil of an event horizon, and at the beginning of the Universe, this was what existed. Definition: In scientific terms, a gravitational singularity (or space-time singularity) is a location where the quantities that are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite in a way that does not depend on the coordinate system. In other words, it is a point in which all physical laws are indistinguishable from one another, where space and time are no longer interrelated realities, but merge indistinguishably and cease to have any independent meaning. K R notes: So, THERE IS A FEASIBILITY OF PHYSICS AND ALL SCIENCES WILL SEIZE TO EXIST; AND WHERE THE EXISTENCE IS SOME THING ELSE AND NOT DARWIN PHYSICAL PROPERTY ALONE. SPACE AND TIME EXIST TOGETRHER. OR EVEN THEM IN NON-EXISTENCE. NOW READ THE RIG VEDAM MANDALA 10 HIRANYA GARBA AND NASAYIDA SUKTAM SLOWLY. IS GOD THERE? IS BRAHMAM THERE? THEN WHARE IS THE MATTER? WHARE IS GRAVITATIONS? WHERE DOES GREEK THEORY EXIST? WHERE DOES VEDIC STRUCTURES APPEAR SOUND? IS BUDDAHA DID RIGHT ABOUT SHUNYA? IS NOT ADI SANKARA CORRECT ABOUT ADVAITHA? COGITO ERGO SUM. NOTE: k r : POORNASYA POORNAMADAYA…. UDICHYATHE/ UPANISHAD ON INFINITY. Einstein new he not only proved Newton theory is not universal but realised that Gravitation or Akarshana in Sanskrit, is also not universal. He thought the negative gravitation exist in Black hole. He felt that its feasible only if , the whole multiverses were to be a singular yarn , made into a bundle, and so that singular yarn, HAD TO STRETCH INTO CURVE, without which, its not feasible in the physical law. (like a mat). But till date all including Hawkins dropped the imaginary theory, though in principle science feels as only answer for the expansion of space, But the theory of expansion is also under the cloud. NOW IS IT SKEPTICISM INSCIENCE OR CLEVER DEFENCE OF MARKED INDEXATION IN SCIENCE FOR CORRECTION? 2 INFINITY is in stretched straight line as well as in square and circle when 2 ends are tied or squared, Unless stated the start and the end, there is infinity only in existence in whatever shape you do. Hence straight line can be infinity and need not be curved as a mat. Where time and space stopped, there exist the brahmam. KR Hence Nasadiya suktam said: 10 129 RV: Rig Veda. Mandala 10. Sukta 129 <https://aurobindo.ru/workings/matherials/rigveda/10/10-129.htm> na ásad āsīn nó sád āsīt tadā́nīm na ́āsīd rájo nó vyómā paró yát ǀ kím ā́varīvaḥ kúha kásya śármann ámbhaḥ kím āsīd gáhanam gabhīrám ǁ ná mṛtyúr āsīd amṛ́tam ná tárhi ná rā́tryā áhna āsītpraketáḥ ǀ ā́nīda vātám svadháyā tádékam tásmāddhānyán ná paráḥ kím canā́sa ǁ táma āsīt támasā gūḷhám ágre ’praketám salilám sárvamā idám ǀ tucchyénābhv ápihitam yád ā́sīt tápasas tán mahinā́ jāyatáikam ǁ kā́mas tád ágre sámavartatā́dhi mánaso rétaḥ prathamám yád ā́sīt ǀ sató bándhum ásati níravindan hṛdí pratī́ṣyā kaváyo manīṣā́ ǁ tiraścī́no vítato raśmír eṣām adháḥ svidāsī́d … upári svidāsī́t … ǀ retodhā́ āsan mahimā́na āsant svadhā́ avástāt práyatiḥ parástāt ǁ kó addhā́ veda ká ihá prá vocat kúta ā́jātā kúta iyám vísṛṣṭiḥ ǀ arvā́g devā́ asyá visárjanena- áthā kó veda yáta ābabhū́va ǁ iyám vísṛṣṭir yáta ābabhū́va yádi vā dadhé yádi vā ná …. yó asyā́dhyakṣaḥ paramé vyómant só aṅgá veda yádi vā ná véda ǁ Translation :- Non-existence wasn’t, yet existence wasn’t then. Dust didn’t exist, nor did space beyond. What moved back and forth? Where? In whose care? Did water exist deep, impervious? Death wasn’t, immortality wasn’t thence. Day was not distinguished by the night. Without breathing air, the one by power of self-establishment – None else beyond that was. Darkness it was, hidden by darkness, at the point. Undistinguished, unsteady, all this was. Hidden by nothing, coming to being, it was. The one manifested by the greatness of heat. At the point, passion evolved, Over the thought, which was the first seed. The bond of existence they found in non-existence : The poets, seeking in heart, by wisdom. [The vedas say the desire alone was the cause of the manifestations. ] Across was stretched, the cord. What was below …? What was above …? There were the great establishers of seed. Self-establishment was beneath Effort beyond. Who really knows, who could here proclaim When this has manifested – when – this release. Towards are the devas, of this wide release. Then who really knows whence this has come to being! [IT IS NOT A DOUBT; BUT WHO CAN THERE WAS A SINGULARITY AUTHORITATIVELY, OTHER THAN THE THOUGHT OF THAT OUGHT TO EXIST? ] This wide release, from what it came to be – Or else if it was “established”, or else if not …. He who is its overseer in the highest space – He does indeed know, or else if he doesn’t know…. A vision : 1. The first stanza is to be understood in the sense:- (I am writing with better-expounded translations of the same words to give the perspective of how it is when you read it in Sanskrit. “Neither was unreal, (asat, also “untrue”) nor was real (sat, also “true”) then. Neither existed the dust (rajas, also “domain power” typical of king, “rajoguṇa”), nor any space beyond. What moved back and forth (like the wind, like a web of connection), where, in whose (inner secure) care Did the “Water stream” (waves, sky, clouds) exist, deep, impervious.” You can also clearly see the seed of the concept of guṇas, as in the words used. (sat/sat-tva guṇa, rajas/rajoguṇa) The hymn as a whole, as we will see, does make sense if read like this too. A very superb poetic core. The word āvarīva- (translated as “moving back and forth”) is used often for the pulse of the universe, similar to breathe, that enters and exits, vivifying everything. It is often connected with metaphors of web and connection, to the herdsman who herds back and forth through the grasslands, and is homologous to the connection which sages will find between existence and non-existence through their wisdom in the lines to follow. 2. If you read the second stanza in Sanskrit, this is what it looks like:- “There was no death. There was nothing im-mortal then. (without mṛtyu, there is no definition for a-mṛta) By no night was the day clearly distinguished (perceived, discriminated) Without breathing air (/vāta), by the power of self-establishment (the “force” that which is lauded as determination of the universe) that “one” existed Beyond that, nothing else was. Self-establishment (sva-dhā) is an abstract Vedic concept, which is apparently the force that drags everything through the path of time. It is typically lauded as the power of Yama (the fashioner of the path of “time” – I will discuss the Vedic Yama in detail later) and the dead ancestors. It is also the self-establishment that causes the universe to “pulsate”, to “live”. Svadhā is beyond biological life and time. 3. Third stanza:- “Tamas (darkness/ignorance – tamoguṇa) existed, hidden by tamas (darkness/ignorance – tamoguṇa) at the (beginning) point. Not distinguished/not perceivable, “flowing” (/unsteady/chaotic) was this all. Covered/hidden by nothing, that which came into being existed; By the power of tapas (/heat, /inner heat) the one manifested.” 4. “Passion, at that point, evolved upon the mind, as its primeval seed. The bond of existence (/real, /true) they found in non-existence (/unreal, /untrue) In their hearts, seeking, the poets through wisdom.” 5. “Across extended (stretched apart, often used in the context of measuring, and especially as the poets stretching the threads of their metres to create the Vāk) was the cord (/ray) (for measuring). Below what was ……? (the verse actually has this, in the form of a pluta. Please hear the audio to understand what I am speaking about) Above what was ……? (here too, the verse has the pluta) The great establishers of seed existed. Self-establishment was below, Toiling/offering was above.” 6. “Who” really knows, “who” could here proclaim, From where thence manifested, from where, this wide-release (sṛṣṭi, literally “release”, becomes the word for “creation” in the later ages. “Release” had a “productional” meaning as much as we have it now in English, in the context of software “release” and likes.) Towards (this side, our side) are the devas, of this wide-release. (They are released towards us) So then, here, who does know, from what this came to being!” The poetic function of the verse is quite explicit. As devas are released towards us, using the skills they represent, we might be answering these questions which is, in a sense, about our own existence. On the other hand, the devas as “beings” are created by us, so the verse can also be read as a puzzlement of how our “created divinities” “know” from where this came to be. 7. Quite a deep and extremely poetic, word-word untranslatable, stanza – so I try my best to show what it looks like:- “This wide-release, from whatever it has come to be – Or if it was “established” (by some “creator”) or if it was not …. (pause) (could it be that it was not ???) The eye-over-it in the highest space – He indeed knows …. (intended to remind the pause earlier) or if he doesn’t know?” I have expounded on the meanings of this sūkta and translated it several times (in all possible ways), so this time I am leaving for you to ponder on this sūkta and observe how it has been translated. Hence the quantum mechanics // quantum entanglement are real as far aas the positive energy in space is concerned; but there is no quantum entanglement where the black hole entered the arena. All the sciences are true; and all the sciences failed; and become untrue; that is the point of the singularity; and that singularity might be the black hole Brahmam; darkness; a twitching light; all alone at the end and at the beginning; only water; not even air to breathe and IT lived breathless? Can there be a better science than this/. KR IRS 28423 On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 06:57, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -------- > > All is OneThe ancient philosophy of monism and the physics of quantum > entanglement agree: all that exists is one unified whole > > *by Heinrich Päs – BIO* > > *Heinrich Päs <https://aeon.co/users/heinrich-pas>is professor of > theoretical physics at TU Dortmund University in Germany. He is the author > of The Perfect Wave: With Neutrinos at the Boundary of Space and Time > <https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674725010> (2014) and The > One: How an Ancient Idea Holds the Future of Physics > <https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/heinrich-pas/the-one/9781541674851/> > (2023).* > > *Edited byPam Weintraub <https://aeon.co/users/pamweintraub>* > > > *Michael Faraday, who proposed force fields were permeating the Universe, > made significant steps toward the unification of electricity and magnetism > – a monistic point of view, indeed.* > > *https://aeon.co/essays/monist-philosophy-and-quantum-physics-agree-that-all-is-one > <https://aeon.co/essays/monist-philosophy-and-quantum-physics-agree-that-all-is-one>?* > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "societyforservingseniors" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CAOmSf4UWHvK8m3uOMaEDpkTS6s0grM--1A8BQ44m9FRcbEL9Gg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CAOmSf4UWHvK8m3uOMaEDpkTS6s0grM--1A8BQ44m9FRcbEL9Gg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > *Mar* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLdYrEc2S3B9hOco3OschnqqB-k4jY%2BQfpQB0rY4wNy-Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLdYrEc2S3B9hOco3OschnqqB-k4jY%2BQfpQB0rY4wNy-Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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