AGAIN HIS EMAIL IN REPLY (TO WHICH THIS IS MY REPLY) is posted from iyer
and himself only , so no one would have read anything out side iyer group;
that is the usual tricks the gundas play; take the copy from somewhere, hit
in filthy language which others may not be aware; and then pose a good
puppy pose. Take his frames from iyer 123 if any one needs. Few people are
acting vakram, without any reason as their interpersonal-relationships have
no correlations to intra-personal relations at all. Hence it is inevitable
to use some phrases as retaliation to his barbaric soldiership. Pl bear
with a rose or a cross as you feel.
Nayunda mavan naragal mama pimp nara- asami
Are you insane? All the time as an illiterate, you only negativate
the subject, neither providing support for your statements nor for others’
statement any piece of evidence. I already named you as NO-MASTER,
NETI-NETI. Even now in anger you contradicted your own statement; YOU SAID
MALAYALAM IS SO OLD ETC AND TAMIL WAS LATER IN THE LAST EMAIL; NOW WHILE
STATING MERE “NETI” TO EZHUTHACHAN SAY, HE WROTE IN MANI PRAVALAM AND
MALAYALAM CAME ONLY LATER; AND 2 THINGS YOU DID OR SLIPPED; ONE MALAYALAM
IS FROM MANIPPRAVALAM, WHICH I SAID; 2 ONLY AFTER MANIPRAVALAM, MALAYALAM
CAME MEANS THAT AFTER 1495-1575 AD; THAT MEANS MALAYALAM IS A KID AGED >500
YEARS ONLY? Well, when you did it foolishly, give kudos to you Naragal. You
may cry from the roof but you won’t be able to pluck even my bottom hair.
Muttal. Fool and a scoundrel.
What a finding you gave, stupid of the first order? Definitely there
is no letter ശ. ஷ. Muttale muttale, Narayana te……..Your boasting Malayalam
same letter is from Sanskrit and hence you are a borrower, and I am a
lender from Tanjore. Even there I score. And muttale, muttale, mischievous
fellow kid, IT IS “ARASU”, “அரசு”; NOT அரक्ष, श्, ष्; how did you live till
97 even without knowing these things and talk so tall unashamedly and there
are people like Sharma to clap clap. Definitely you are a big Zero, I am
proving again and again and you simply deny, which shows that nothing on
top. Unaware of anything tou jump like a fox.
The Tamil script does not have characters for vocalic R, RR, L and
LL (dependent and independent). It has only one non-nasal consonant per
class among the class consonants whereas the other Sanskrit-supporting
scripts like Devanagari and Grantha have four, leaving three consonants
missing per class. The exception is CA class where two characters – CA and
JA – are already present in Tamil and only CHA and JHA are missing. Tamil
also does not have an anunasika sign, anusvara, visarga, ardhavisarga,
dandas and avagraha. So what Muttal Narayana? A language has all the plus
and minus we can discuss; but Grammar says how to do it which alone governs
a language. As a matter of fact only Tamil is present and cherished all
over the world today.
By writing all these, characters like you, will not change, because
you are a worm; however, you shall know; the interested may also know.
Tamil is a phonetic language and is subject to well-defined rules
of elision and euphony. The present script used to write Tamil text is
believed to have evolved from the Brahmi script of the Ashoka era. Unlike
most other Indian languages, Tamil does not have aspirated consonants. The
Tamil script does not have distinct letters for voiced and
unvoiced plosives, although both are present in the spoken language
as allophones--i.e., they are in complementary distribution and the places
they can occur do not intersect. For example, the unvoiced plosive 'p'
occurs at the beginning of the words and the voiced plosive 'b' cannot. In
the middle of words, unvoiced plosives commonly occur as a geminated pair
like -pp- , while voiced plosives do not usually come in pairs. Only the
voiced plosives occur after a vowel, or after a corresponding nasal. Thus,
both the voiced and unvoiced plosives can be represented by the same script
in Tamil without ambiguity, the script denoting only the place and broad
manner of articulation (plosive, nasal, etc.). The Tolkāppiyam cites
detailed rules as to when a letter is to be pronounced with voice and when
it is to be pronounced unvoiced. The rule is identical for all plosives. A
plosive speech sound: The basic plosives in English are *t*, *k*, and *p* (
voiceless
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a speech sound) uttered
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without resonance
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of
the vocal cords
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e.g., *f* as opposed to *v*, *p* as opposed to *b*, and *s* as opposed to
*z*.) and *d*, *g*, and *b* (voiced
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a speech sound) uttered with resonance of the vocal cords (e.g. b, d, g ).
Hence Tamil has its original grammar 7 to 8000 year old and never was born
recently as you , yourself admitted it. Another thing: Language is pure
communication tool;that is all; it does not serve any other purpose; but
literatures develop because of human intelligence; many are in Tamil; so
some in Malayalam too; if you do not accept Ezhuthachan, don’t hereafter,
call yourself-AS YOU DO NOW.
There are so many puranic versions of the tool thrown and land
reclamation which became Kerala; also Kerala prays and worships Mahabali as
their clan if so Kerala existed long before Parasurama came as Vamana
avataram was ahead of Parasurama.
(a) According to the puranas, Kerala is also known as Parasurama
Kshetram, i.e., 'The Land of Parasurama', as the land was reclaimed from
the sea by him.
(b) This legend, however, may be a Brahmin appropriation of an
earlier Chera legend where a Chera King, Velkezhu Kuttavan, otherwise known
as ChenKuttuvan flings his spear into the sea to claim land from it.
( c ) The myth of Parashurama is debatable as the legendary king
Mahabali, under whose rule Kerala was the land of prosperity and happiness,
was granted rule over netherworld (Patalam) by Vamana the avatar of Vishnu, who
actually comes before the avatar of Parashurama according to the avatar
stories of Hindu mythology.
(d) There is however a counterpoint to this line of argument, because
as per the 'Vishupuranam' Mahabali was ruler of the entire World (there is
no mention of a place called Kerala) and eyed to capture the abode of the
Devas when Vishnu incarnated as 'Vamana' and banished him.
( e ) One legend of Kerala even makes Parasurama a Pandya ruler. In
another legend, the Pandyas themselves are the manifestations of
Parasurama. P.N. Chopra writes, "Parasurama is deemed by the Keralites as
the father of their national identity. “The Kollam Era is also known as
"Parasurama-Sacam".
(f) Travancore Rajas claim descent from Chera King Bhanu Bikram, who
according to legend was placed on the throne by Parasurama. Scholar K.
Narayanan Sivaraja Pillai mentions, "Even as the West Coast owes its very
rudiments of civilized life to Parasurama...".
(g) In the Keralolpatti, Parasurama is said to have selected goddess
Durga (Kali) to be the guardian of the sea-shore of Kerala. According to
legend, Chera King Kuttuvan Chera (also called Kota Varman) once enraged,
threw an into the sea, thereby causing it to retreat and the land to dry.
According to another legend, a Pandyan called "Vadimbalamba ninrapandyan"
threw his spear into the sea, hereby causing the same effect. There is
another story of Ukkira Pandiyan obtaining a spear from the Sivan of
Madura, and throwing it into the sea, causing the shore to retreat.
So Narayana, keep resting without puffing, fuming and fretting,
abusing and avalanching yourself, and get some bad problems at this age. IT
IS CERTAIN THAT YOU ARE A BASIC IGNORANT AND NEVER EVEN EXCEED YOUR OWN
SISYA LEVEL. KR IRS 19723
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 04:00, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear folks
>
> Why, oh why does the self-styled NAYUNDA MAVEN repeatedly exhibit its
> canine de-oxy-ribo-nucleic acid identity every time it takes to the
> computer keyboard?
>
> It is not entirely unexpected that when you take a stray dog from the
> street, shampoo-wash and brush it dry, and place before it as bhojanam a
> saddhi-samaaraadhanam, it will wag its tail and trot quickly outside
> seeking its usual feed of fresh human excreta.
>
> This is what happened above.
>
> K Rajaram IRS 19 7 23, who knows no Thamizh, no Malayaalam, no English,
> no Latin, no German, no anything, is unable to comprehend, despite his
> doddering old age of 88, that ARASU is written in Tamil characters "arachu"
> because there is no *ശ.*
>
> To echo closely the illiterate, uneducated, unschooled filibustering
> nonentity, the worst part of his illiteracy is trying to act as if he is
> learned in Tamil (NOT "a Tamil learned"); one who does not know (not "did
> not know") HIS ANTECEDENTS (not HIS ANTICIDENT); one who does not
> know (not "did not know") the importance of knowledge of languages (not "the
> implant of a knowledge").
>
> One who does not know the difference between "kuzhavi" (hand-held grinding
> stone) and shiva-lingam should keep his mouth shut and his lips zipped.
>
>
> *"The voiceless consonant ‘p’, that is seen as the first letter of the
> second word, ‘piraan’, becomes the voiced ‘b’ according to Tamil rules of
> grammar."*
>
> Absolute rubbish and another LIE.
>
> *Tamil has NO LETTER "b"; only "P".*
>
>
> *"The Cochin chieftain was addressed and named as Tampuran."*
>
> Another blatant lie.
>
> My own grandfather, my father, and I were called "Thampuraan", because we
> were the landowners and employers.
>
> "*Parasu has a tool meaning in Sanskrit and Kerala is believed to be cut
> out of the sea."*
>
> A double-lie this time, by all-time master-liar blind, witless and
> mindless K Rajaram IRS 19 7 23.
>
> (1) "Parasu" in Sanskrit means "axe", not "a tool". (2) No sea was "cut"
> as alleged. You do not "cut" water, only ice. There was no ice in the sea
> there. The thrown axe landed in the sea, in what is now Kanyakumaari
> promontory in southernmost part of the Indian sub-continent. * THE SEA
> RECEDED, and land was formed*.
>
> In other words, there was land reclamation from the sea.
>
> *"Thunchaththu Ramanujan Ezhuthachan was known as the 'Father of Malayalam
> language and literature."*
>
> Another humongous lie.
>
> He was NOT. He wrote in manipravaalam which contained many Sanskrit
> words and expressions. Malayalaam came later.
>
> *"Tamil write up is ERASA ERAMAN."*
>
> Another habitual lie, again in his usual gutter/sewage English.
>
> The Tamil words are IRAACHA IRAAMAN. As I pointed out earlier, Tamil has
> no *ശ.*
>
> The incorrigible stupid fool and numb-skull gas-bag will never ever learn
> anything.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 11:10 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ARASU
>>
>> An old man of a group who used to abuse others and always write, as
>> if knowledgeable, and forced upon certain people to think that he is a
>> master subjects, as usual, interwoven, abuses and erroneous data; I could
>> have thrown it out as insignificant emanating from an ignorant; however,
>> many fallacies, he had committed, in writing even what he wishes to
>> express; abuses is from a kid that does not matter because that is his
>> national language. But he spoke racism like Tamil and Malayalam, because he
>> is not an Indian. He has his whims. Had he written to Singaporeans, they
>> would have placed him in the proper place. But he wrote to Indians, who
>> will as usual, feel proud, or ignore or will pass over, as it is not my cup
>> of tea. And as a person who always feels that no one has any authority to
>> write in a public forum, as he likes it, because he is ignorant.
>>
>> 2 Look at the spelling on top; it is not Arcachu; it is ARASU.
>> Arcachu means grinding as he does. A person who cannot even learn and think
>> and write, after careful consideration, is a mean person with the Jihadi
>> attitude. Grinders and the parrots do the same job. The worst part of his
>> illiteracy is trying to act as if a Tamil learned; one who did not know HIS
>> ANTICIDENT; one who did not know the implant of a knowledge. ARASU in
>> Sanskrit means, राज्य adjective noun neuter body “with the power to make
>> and/or enforce laws' '. A king may still be without a Rajya. Rajya alone
>> gives the title the King. One who cannot distinguish the difference between
>> the chekku and Siva lingam, (Tamil proverb) shall remain calm.
>>
>> 3 Thamburan is the Malayalam corruption of Tamil, thambiran; Thambiran
>> is the correct form of the word in the query. It is a compound-noun,
>> meaning, one’s own lord. “Tham”, the first word means, one’s own and the
>> second word, piraan, means lord, God or master. When the two words join, the
>> voiceless consonant ‘p’, that is seen as the first letter of the second
>> word, ‘piraan’, becomes the voiced ‘b’ according to Tamil rules of grammar.
>> {Tolkappium}. So again, the word was adopted from the Tamil language, where
>> Malayalam was in vogue, long after the arising of Tamil, Telugu and Kannada
>> in the South. The Cochin chieftain was addressed and named as Tampuran. So,
>> he does not know Malayalam history either. But while abusing, the one thing
>> he knew certainly is, SINDU MUDITHAL.
>>
>> 4 Thunchaththu Ramanujan Ezhuthachan was known as the 'Father of
>> Malayalam language and literature. Dr. Angalos Francis wrote the first
>> Malayalam Grammar book in 1710. In Malayalam the word 'Thunchan' means the
>> youngest, though he was one of the eldest among vernacular poets who had
>> made the Bhakti cult popular among people of the region. 'Ezhuthachan'
>> means 'Father of writing.' He was born in 1495 in a place near
>> Thrikandiyoor Shiva Temple, Tirur Taluka of Malappuram district, Kerala.
>> The year of his death was marked 1575 AD. The Malayalam version of the
>> 'Adhyatma Ramayanam Kilipaatt' triggered a spiritual revolution across the
>> Malayalam speaking region as laymen could access epic reading for their
>> spiritual contentment in their local dialect. The centuries-long Bhakti
>> cult gained new momentum after he made 'Kilipaatt' (Parrot song), a new
>> genre in the language, which is still popular. And so many times I had
>> written about it, but no so called fastidious, were able to write his
>> literature and I can do it; kilippatt styles are embedded, in the group
>> with a few. In short, the language after the manipravalam, prevalent in
>> Kerala, changed to Malayalam today because of Tamil and Sanskrit.
>>
>> 5 Parasuraman was supposed to have an avataram in the Ramayana
>> time; he also existed in Mahabharata period which means, in treta yuga and
>> Dwapara yugam, where age was only 300 and 200 could not live as such.
>> Because Puranas says Parasurama Kshetra we believe. Parasu has a tool
>> meaning in Sanskrit and Kerala is believed to be cut out of the sea. There
>> are no more details other than hearsays. However, the Cheran King who is a
>> Tamil, ruled Kerala. After conquering it. Then he took a lot of Brahmins
>> from Thanjavur, to be settled in Kerala. Thus, the Brahminism from the
>> Tamil Nādu, trenched its Malayalam Brahmin cult through Nambudiri and other
>> styles of Vedas practiced. Of course, all these I had written long back.
>> History cannot be erased. Tamil Nādu Brahmins are only the displaced
>> smartha from the North. Then some kannada Brahmins also entered Kerala from
>> the north side. However, the root of malatala Brahmins are only from Tamil
>> Nadu and so cannot make fun as Iracha (wrong writing by the member again
>> revealing his shallow knowledge) Irama (pardonable and OK); Tamil write up
>> is ERASA ERAMAN if separately written or Erasaraman only. Better learn well
>> sir.
>>
>> 6 As you were not from Malayalam land by nature and only a
>> migrant-Malayali, as English became an American, so there is nothing great
>> to distinguish the superiority and inferiority. As a matter of fact, all
>> Brahmins are only a migrant of the south below Vindhya Parvatham. Hence you
>> used to write something like, spitting lying down in the space; and don’t
>> you think you too do it? Read well before you write as a few might have
>> believed you were the great but not now. Hope your eyes will open up. Chant
>> Gayathri more to wipe the sins sir Thank you K Rajaram IRS 19 7 23
>>
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