Mr Rangarajan words are conspicuous in the sense that brain-washed is hereditary. As a matter of fact, no grandfather as did 3 generations before, ever told the grandson to do Sandyavandanam or Grandma telling the Grandchildren, any prayer verses-which may be said to brainwash in a sense. In a generation where such things are rarity of the rarest and in whose home in the modern kitchen houses, place for the GODs is under the staircase, a shutter, or a small corner near the RR. Hence we may not use the word brain washed as only if there is one it can be washed. It is in the DNA. Hydrogen, Ammonia , Methane combinations which have a print, from the forefathers. The print operates from the space along with the atom movements and karma in the air. The funny part of people in General all over the world is, one who is ready to believe that we are made up of atoms only, as told to us in the school,without verification, shall not believe that we have relationship with space. Thus the seed is well sown and where there is blank space the veers may enter , when their doubts are cleared by someone; and that empty clay matter takes it all in. A strong mind will not convert. A weak mind is easy to absorb. They do not approach Rajaram or Rangarajan or Sekar. Even this riddle is an indirect way of telling the weak minds do not call yourself as HINDU, and be proud to be........In Spite of the onslaughts, a small nation over the earth standing still in Rank III of which I am proud. As long as we give a clarion call against narcotics of those veers, to shut up-for example, someone started the protest, to remove the Bhagavad Gita from "Oppenheimer" film; but we never opened our throats; because many do not know who is oppenheimer; many do not know BG; many may not know the nexus; so after the horse bolted we will pretend that we are interested. If we are firm, it is mine the way of life , not a religion, will stay off their undue occurrences. K R IRS 27 7 23
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 21:45, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe everyone is brainwashed by the parents to follow their religion or > way of life; > When they grow up their influence is replaced by the persuasion of peers > to veer away > > On Wednesday, 26 July, 2023 at 11:49:39 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > A wisdom paradox had written these as thinking he was hitting the > Brawn in the grinder which is empty I think: What do you think? > > *RI**DDLE** No. 1* > > *THE DIFFICULTY OF KNOWING WHY ONE IS A HINDU* > > India is a congeries of communities. There are in it Parsis, Christians, > Mohammedans and Hindus. The basis of these communities is not racial. It is > of course religious. This is a superficial view. What is interesting to > know is why is a Parsi a Parsi and why is a Christian a Christian, why is > a Muslim a Muslim and why is a Hindu a Hindu? With regard to the Parsi, > the Christian and the Muslim it is smooth sailing. Ask a Parsi why he calls > himself a Parsi he will have no difficulty in answering the question. He > will say he is a Parsi because he is a follower of Zoroaster. Ask the > same question to a Christian. He too will have no difficulty in answering > the question. He is a Christian because he believes in Jesus Christ. Put > the same question to a Muslim. He too will have no hesitation in answering > it. He will say he is a believer in Islam and that is why he is a Muslim. > > Now ask the same question to a Hindu and there is no doubt that he will be > completely bewildered and would not know what to say. > > If he says that he is a Hindu because he worships the same God as the > Hindu Community does his answer cannot be true. All Hindus do not worship > one God. Some Hindus are monotheists, some are polytheists and some are > pantheists. Even those Hindus who are monotheists are not worshippers of > the same Gods. Some worship the God Vishnu, some Shiva, some Rama, some > Krishna. Some do not worship the male Gods. They worship a goddess. Even > then they do not worship the same Goddesses. They worship different > Goddesses. Some worship Kali, some worship Parvati, some worship Laxmi. > > Coming to the Polytheists they worship all the Gods. They will worship > Vishnu and Shiva, also Rama and Krishna. They will worship Kali, Parvati > and Laxmi. A Hindu will fast on the Shivaratri day because it is sacred > to Shiva. He will fast on Ekadashi day because it is sacred to Vishnu. He > will plant a Bel tree because it is sacred to Shiva and he will plant a Tu > lsi because it is dear to Vishnu. > > Polytheists among the Hindus do not confine their homage to the Hindu > Gods. No Hindu hesitates to worship a Muslim Pir or a Christian Goddess. > Thousands of Hindus go to a Muslim Pir and make offerings. Actually, > there are in some places Brahmins who own the office of a hereditary > priesthood of a Muslim Pir and wear a Muslim Pir's dress. Thousands of > Hindus go to make offerings to the Christian Goddess Mant Mauli near > Bombay. > > The worship of the Christian or Muslim Gods is only on occasions. But > there are more permanent transfer of religious allegiance. There are many > so-called Hindus whose religion has a strong Muhammadan content. Notable > amongst these are the followers of the strange Panchpiriya cult, who > worship five Muhammadan saints, of uncertain name and identity, and > sacrifice cocks to them, employing for the purpose as their priest a > Muhammadan Dafali fakir. Throughout India many Hindus make pilgrimages to > Muhammadan shrines, such as that of Sakhi Sarwar in the Punjab. > > Speaking of the Malkanas Mr. Blunt says that they are converted Hindus of > various castes belonging to Agra and the adjoining districts. chiefly > Muttra, Ettah and Mainpuri. They are of Rajput, Jat and Bania descent. > They are reluctant to describe themselves as Musalmans, and generally > give their original caste name and scarcely recognize the name Malkana. > Their names are Hindu; they mostly worship in Hindu temples: they use the > salutation Ram-Ram: they intermarry amongst themselves only. On the other > hand, they sometimes frequent a mosque, practice circumcision and bury > their dead: they will eat with Muhammadans if they are particular friends. > > In Gujarat there are several similar communities such as the Matia > *Kunbis,* who call in Brahmans for their chief ceremonies, but are > followers of the Pirana saint Imam Shah and his successors, and bury > their dead as do the Muhammadans: The Sheikhadas at their weddings employ > both Hindu and a Muhammadan priest, and the Momans who practice > circumcision, bury their dead and read the Gujarati Koran, but in other > respects follow Hindu custom and ceremonial. > > If he says that "I am a Hindu because I hold to the beliefs of the Hindus" > his answer cannot be right for here one is confronted with the fact that > Hinduism has no definite creed. The beliefs of persons who are by all admitted > to be Hindus often differ more widely from each other than do those of > Christians and Muhammadans. Limiting the issue to cardinal beliefs the > Hindus differ among themselves as to the beliefs which arc of cardinal > importance. Some say that all the Hindu scriptures must be accepted, but > some would exclude the Tantras, while others would regard only the Vedas > as of primary importance; some again think that the sole essential is beli > ef in the doctrine of karma and metempsychosis. > > A complex congeries of creeds and doctrines is Hinduism. It shelters > within its portals monotheists, polytheists and pantheists; worshippers > of the great Gods Shiva and Vishnu or of their female counterparts, As well > as worshippers of the divine mothers or the spirits of trees, rocks and > streams and the tutelary village deities; persons who propitiate their > deity by all manner of bloody sacrifices, and persons who will not only > kill no living creature but who must not even use the word 'cut '; those > whose ritual consists mainly of prayers and hymns, and those who indulge in > unspeakable orgies in the name of religion; and a host of more or less > heterodox sectaries, many of whom deny the supremacy of the Brahmans, or > at least have non-Brahmanical religious leaders. > > If he says that he is a Hindu because he observes the same customs as > other Hindus do his answer cannot be true. For all Hindus do not observe > the same customs. > > In the north near relatives are forbidden to marry; but in the south > cousin marriage is prescribed, and even closer alliances are sometimes > permitted. As a rule female chastity is highly valued, but some communities > set little store by it, at any rate prior to marriage, and others make it a > rule to dedicate one daughter to a life of religious prostitution. In some > parts the women move about freely; in others they are kept secluded. In > some parts they wear skirts; in others trousers. > > Again, if he said that he is a Hindu because he believes in the caste > system his answer cannot be accepted as satisfactory. It is quite true > that no Hindu is interested in what his neighbour believes, but he is very > much interested in knowing whether he can eat with him or take water from > his hands. In other words, it means that the caste system is an essential > feature of Hinduism and a man who does not belong to a recognized Hindu > Caste cannot be a Hindu. While all this is *true* it must not be > forgotten that observance of caste is not enough. Many Musselman and many > Christians observe caste if not in the matter of inter-dining certainly > in the matter of inter-marriage. But they cannot be called Hindus on that > account. Both elements must be present. He must be a Hindu and he must also > observe caste. This brings us back to the old question who is a Hindu? It > leaves us where we are. > > Is it not a question for every Hindu to consider why in the matter of his > own religion his position is so embarrassing and so puzzling? Why is he > not able to answer so simple a question which every Parsi, every > Christian, and every Muslim can answer? Is it not time that he should ask > himself what are the causes that has brought about this religious chaos? > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > KR KR A parsi may say Followers also believe in angels, heaven > and hell, God and Satan, an immortal soul and the last judgement. > Priesthood is hereditary in Zoroastrianism, and all religious ceremonies > are led by priests. Both male and female followers are initiated into the > faith through the Navjote ceremony. Initiated adherents have to follow a > dress code of the faith. Shenshani, Qadimi and Fasli are three major > denominations and the three calendars that followers of the Zoroastrian > faith use. When each significant day is celebrated or commemorated differs > depending on which denomination and calendar adherents follow.There are > divisions between the Mumbai and the Pakistanis. > > Though the two main sects within Islam, Sunni and Shia, agree on > most of the fundamental beliefs and practices of Islam, a bitter split > between the two goes back some 14 centuries. The divide originated with a > dispute over who should succeed the Prophet Muhammad as leader of the > Islamic faith he introduced. > > Islamic schools and branches have different understandings of Islam. There > are many different sects or denominations, schools of Islamic > jurisprudence, and schools of Islamic theology, or ʿaqīdah (creed). Within > Islamic groups themselves there may be differences, such as different > orders (tariqa) within Sufism, and within Sunnī Islam different schools of > theology (Atharī, Ashʿarī, Māturīdī) and jurisprudence (Ḥanafī, Mālikī, > Shāfiʿī, Ḥanbalī).Groups in Islam may be numerous (the largest branches are > Shīʿas and Sunnīs), or relatively small in size (Ibadis, Zaydīs, > Ismāʿīlīs). Differences between the groups may not be well known to Muslims > outside of scholarly circles, or may have induced enough passion to have > resulted in political and religious violence (Barelvi, Deobandi, Salafism, > Wahhabism) ] There are informal movements driven by ideas (such as Islamic > modernism and Islamism) as well as organized groups with a governing body > (Ahmadiyya, Ismāʿīlism, Nation of Islam). Some of the Islamic sects and > groups regard certain others as deviant or accuse them of not being truly > Muslim (for example, Sunnīs frequently discriminate against Ahmadiyya, > Alawites, Quranists, and Shīʿas). Some Islamic sects and groups date back > to the early history of Islam between the 7th and 9th centuries CE > (Kharijites, Sunnīs, Shīʿas), whereas others have arisen much more recently > (Islamic neo-traditionalism, liberalism and progressivism, Islamic > modernism, Salafism and Wahhabism) or even in the 20th century (Nation of > Islam). Still others were influential in their time but are not longer in > existence (non-Ibadi Kharijites, Muʿtazila, Murji'ah). Muslims who do not > belong to, do not self-identify with, or cannot be readily classified under > one of the identifiable Islamic schools and branches are known as > non-denominational Muslims. > > It is important to explain that many sects—including Salafi, Deobandi, > and Wahabi—do not believe in Ahadith and Sunnah but rely solely on the > Quran. They believe that any individual can translate the Quran. The Sunni, > Sufi, Shia, and Berelvi sects believe the contrary. > > Christianity is divided between Eastern and Western theology. In > these two divisions there are six branches: Catholicism, Protestantism, > Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Assyrians. > Restorationism is sometimes considered the seventh branch. > > Followers of Jesus span the globe. But the global body of more than > 2 billion Christians is separated into thousands of denominations. > Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Apostolic, Methodist — the > list goes on. Estimations show there are more than 200 Christian > denominations in the U.S. and a staggering 45,000 globally, according to > the Center for the Study of Global Christianity > <https://www.gordonconwell.edu/center-for-global-christianity/research/quick-facts/>. > So why does Christianity have so many branches? > > A cursory look shows that differences in belief, power grabs and > corruption all had a part to play. > > But on some level, differentiation and variety have been markers of > Christianity since the very beginning, according to Diarmaid MacCulloch, > professor emeritus of church history at the University of Oxford in the > United Kingdom. "There's never been a united Christianity," he told Live > Science. 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