Q1 there is nothing wrong in Vivek publication; but a waste of 25 lines; there are so many stories like that; so it would have been better, had the writer had said it is not in VYASA MAHABHARATA but outside spin. Q2 The "mad scientist" seems to be Anatoli V. Brouchkov <https://twitter.com/permafrostmsu>, one of the authors of Draft Genome Sequence of Bacillus cereus Strain F, Isolated from Ancient Permafrost <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3731846/>, detailing the organism's name as "Bacillus cereus <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_cereus> Strain F", not "Bacillus F" as so commonly plagiarised in connection with this sensational news bait. Other subjects beyond what he did to himself make up a highly unusual <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4909414/Actress-injects-3-5-MILLION-year-old-Siberian-bacteria.html> minority group at best.
In that video from the DailyMail <http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2017/09/22/8676120643913757351/640x360_MP4_8676120643913757351.mp4> Brouchkov is quoted explicitly and on tape himself (starting at 5:45 min): *Narrator:* "Anatoli Brouchkov tested an extract of the bacteria on mice and has taken it himself. Though he says it's a food supplement. So Manoush's decision to inject is a new, possibly riskier stage of the experiment." *Brouchkov:* "I didn't recommend her any injections and I told her it was no injection. It was just, ah, consuming the extract of the bacteria. Well, I, what I can say. She is a very brave lady." *That makes the conclusion quite obvious that Brouchkov did not inject living bacteria into himself.* In whatever way he took the bacteria or an extract of them: *his claims* are not about injections, but about improved health in test animals and himself. Any claim about "injections" is up to the media to substantiate, sometime perhaps? More factual reporting, even as events unfold, seems to have been possible in this case: Anatoli Brouchkov, head of the geocryology department at Moscow State University, *says he drank million-year-old bacteria,* and he tells the Russian TV network RT that he’s been working longer and hasn’t gotten the flu in two years. <https://cen.acs.org/articles/93/i41/Solving-Stiletto-Prehistoric-Probiotics.html> A more balanced account on the surroundings of this experiment is found here: some lifeforms may have been alive since the dinosaur era <http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160602-some-lifeforms-may-have-been-alive-since-the-dinosaur-era>. A first clue into these claimed "benefits" of introducing the bacteria to currently living organisms is published in: Relict Microorganisms of Cryolithozone as Possible Objects of Gerontology <https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S207905701101005X>: *Testing Bacillary Cultures in Higher Organisms *Testing in Drosophila melanogaster: The experiment was carried out in Drosophila melanogaster flies of the same age (24 h). Five pairs were placed in test tubes with a nutrient medium (5–7 ml). The volume of sampling was 100 flies for each group. Flies were selected for the experiment by etherization; the dead and surviving flies were counted every 3 days. The experiment was carried out with a 24 h culture of Bacillus sp. (strain 3M) grown in a meat–peptone broth. The culture (20 μl) was added to the test tube with the experimental group. In the control group, the flies were kept in the medium with yeasts; in the experimental group, the flies were kept in the medium with yeasts for the first 5 days and then in the medium with the bacillus for 24 h (alternated during the whole period of observation). And that is a very preliminary study design. One group with *this* bacterium, the other without these bacteria (possibly sterile?). A better design would have included "younger" or just other bacteria to compare with the current experiment and control groups. Either way, the results were less impressive than popular headlines: They followed this up with the detailed speculation on possible mechanisms: The following three basic mechanisms could be proposed for how orally ingested nonindigenous bacteria can have a probiotic effect in a host: 1. immunomodulation, that is, stimulation of the gut-associated lymphoid tissue, e.g., induction of cytokines; 2. competitive exclusion of gastrointestinal pathogens, e.g., competition for adhesion sites; and 3. secretion of antimicrobial compounds which suppress the growth of harmful bacteria (Duc et al. 2004). We propose that the notable probiotic properties of Bacillus cereus strain BF as compared with Bacillus cereus var. toyoi can be explained by the production of unknown bacteriocin-like inhibitory substances (unpublished data). We described the S. enterica var. enteritidis model as a variant to cause a chronic carrier state in mice after oral inoculation, as a model for a human carrier state. The pathogenic mechanism of S. enterica var. enteritidis action was connected with the gastrointestinal tract. Therefore, we used oral infection and treatment of mice. To protect mice from Salmonella infection, antibiotics or bacterial extracts can be used (Deng et al. 2007). Viable microorganisms such as yeast and bacterial species have been used to protect mice from Salmonella infection (Szabó et al. 2009). In our case, Bacillus cereus strain BF protected mice from Salmonella infection. Probiotic bacteria reduced colonization by pathogens and decreased host defense mechanisms. Preliminary results for Bacillus cereus strain BF showed an increase of the humoral and cell immunity of mice (Brouchkov et al. 2009). Thus, the possibility of oral treatment of mice infected with S. enterica var. enteritidis with probiotic Bacillus cereus strain BF, obtained from relict permafrost, was clearly demonstrated. Given the assumed age of this strain, whether it was "living", that is metabolising, the whole time or just thawed up and reactivated, it is possible that this variant is one of a non-pathogenic subspecies. Maybe it outcompetes pathogens, maybe it has pro-biotic effects: Probiotic Activity of a Bacterial Strain Isolated from Ancient Permafrost Against Salmonella Infection in Mice. <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26782040/> Other lines of inquiry may lie in specific compounds produced by this species, for example certain lipopeptides: Agricultural Sciences Effects of Bacillus cereus F-6 on Promoting Vanilla (Vanilla planifolia Andrews.) Plant Growth and Controlling Stem and Root Rot Disease <http://file.scirp.org/Html/18-3001210_59975.htm>. Or DNA-repair enzymes An unprecedented nucleic acid capture mechanism for excision of DNA damage <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20927102> (2010) or similar mechanisms of various types A new protein architecture for processing alkylation damaged DNA: the crystal structure of DNA glycosylase AlkD <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18585735> (2008). Whether this species simply lost its pathogenic <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/9083261_Pseudo-outbreak_of_toxigenic_Bacillus_cereus_isolated_from_stools_of_three_patients_with_diarrhoea_after_oral_administration_of_a_probiotic_medication> potential, never developed it <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cereulide> in the first place, all bacteria *do* stimulate an immune response. The official word on probiotics and their relation to "flu" or more precise the common cold is currently: The evidence that probiotic supplements may help to prevent colds is weak, and little is known about their long-term safety. <https://nccih.nih.gov/health/tips/flucold.htm> Currently there is some interesting research going on. As preliminary tests and studies the design problems encountered so far are forgivable. But since they were always present, no definitive answer can be given to that question. Even for other species of bacteria known, used and investigated since 1917 we do not have a complete picture of what they do or how they do it (Upregulation of Intestinal Mucin Expression by the Probiotic Bacterium E. coli Nissle 1917 <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26781849> (2012): The probiotic E. coli Nissle 1917 (EcN) has been reported to have various health benefits; however, very little is known about their underlying mechanisms.). The cereus group is much less well studied for basic functioning or health effects. (E.g. The putative drug efflux systems of the Bacillus cereus group <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28472044> (2017).) Brouchkov's own assessment in peer reviewed journals now says: Permafrost microorganisms are possibly a perspective object for the search of new probiotics. (First Online: 24 June 2017) Whether he really injected himself with living bacteria, with inactivated/dead bacteria or whether he only *ingested* them: He told <https://truththeory.com/2017/01/04/russian-scientist-injects-3-5-million-year-old-bacteria-claims-no-flu-two-years/> The Siberian Times <http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/features/f0159-russian-scientists-make-progress-on-secret-of-eternal-life/>, “After successful experiments on mice and fruit flies, I thought it would be interesting to try the inactivated bacterial culture. […] “The permafrost is thawing, and I guess these bacteria get into the environment, into the water, so the local population, the Yakut people, in fact, for a long time are getting these cells with water, and even seem to live longer than some other nations. So there was no danger for me.” However, he admitted that he had no idea what the bacteria was actually doing to his body, as scientists are not yet sure exactly how it works as they claimed “we cannot understand the mechanism, but we see the impact.” 'Now we have applied for a grant to conduct further research, especially on human blood cells, and we hope that we will get it, because the research is extremely promising.' This article, or one like that (in other Russian newspapers) seems to have started this whole thing. Note the mismatch between headline and body text regarding 'injections'. *– Conclusion –* As an anecdotal evidence Brouchkov claims about his personal health are irrelevant. If he were to market this strain as a probiotic, he'd have a tough time <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/oct/19/efsa-rules-probiotic-health-claims-unproven> regarding these <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747744/> health <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747744/> claims in many markets <https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/nutrition-and-health-claims>. The possible effects claimed more by certain media than by him from a one-time shot of dead bacteria are wholly unlikely. For any effect over the claimed time span the procedure would have to be repeated. Live bacteria might have colonised him (that would be easily testable, but was apparently not carried out) and show beneficial effects (although that too is not very likely to the extent claimed in the articles in question). Most of the possible reasons for "health benefits" given by Brouchkov initially ('the bacteria are old, … therefore you grow older'/'exotic people living where we found them get older than expected…') are just nonsense. More accurate headlines would have to read like: *Russian geocryologist (scientist specialising on permafrost soils) finds 3.5 million-year-old bacteria in thawing Siberian soil, assumes after preliminary testing the bacteria's potential as a trendy pro-biotic, eats it, says he is fine.* and as a follow up: *Global yellow press goes ape over misleading headline involving "Russian Scientist" – For years now, media fails to do basic research and just copies outrageously exaggerated claims over and over – Possible harm to actress* Only one effect of this bacterium is crystal clear: it makes you immortal – by getting you into the news. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Q3 once: 1 Always carry cash. (you never know what might happen on the road) KR No cards? If cash is demandable there must be an economy zone; if plundering crd is better to lose. 2 Smile when you shake hands. (ensures confidence and trustworthiness) kR Corona so soon forgotten as well as sastra principles? 3 If you are not invited, don’t go. (unless extremely necessary, ofc) KR Point of no return? Either do not go or go what is extremely necessary? Crow catching? 4 When in a conversation, wait for your turn to speak. (makes you more likable) KR And if your turn did not come, it would be presumed tgat you have nothing to offer ? 5 Start saying Yes and No without explaining an entire story. (Yes and No tells a lot) KR A Russian scientist injected news; say yes or No only; then what story it will tell? 6 Never say no if a poor friend/relative invites you to dinner or lunch. (eat less but eat) KR Why eat less in poor friends' homes and eat more in rich homes? 7 If someone accidentally slips or spills a drink, help them instead of looking at them awkwardly. (we all go through this) KR One who handles in public with care does not spil and it does not happen to all always. 8 Don’t ask a girl her age. Nor a man his salary. KR Then how will a man and woman marry? 9 Never try to outsmart your teacher or your father. (If you know they’re wrong, explain to them why) KR Explaining is only outsmarting them and contradictions. 10 If you don’t like someone’s specific habit, never tell others about it; instead tell them in private. KR And also listen to him in that privacy , your habit, which you thought was good and advising in private to your friend , is so bad as explained by him to you. Q3 Twice: ISKCON BG many will have as it is given free. It is absurd to think that ISKCON B G is perverted as mentioned by someone; it is based only as Krishna the Prime as Visishta Advaitham based on Perumal. It does give the same meaning as A Ramakrishna mission Kerala or Mylapore would give or a chinmayananda or Gita press or Gandhi or Tilak or anyone for that matter. When we are not sure of our feet, better to think than whisper. K RAJARAM IRS 8 9 23 On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 14:36, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > *CULTURAL QA 09-2023-07* > > *Q1 Why did Shri Krishna eat peanuts for eighteen days in the war > of Mahabharata?* > > *A1 Vivek Shukla, Self Employed at Start up Strategy > (2015–present)Updated Apr 26* > > *Thanks for asking such an interesting question. I would like to answer > this question. In India, there is a lockdown and I utilized my lockdown by > watching all the episodes of Mahabharata.* > > *I saw all the episodes of Mahabharata and consider myself eligible to > answer this question. Please share and upvote my answer if you find it > informative.* > > *So let's start the whole story and see why it happened.* > > *Before sharing the story behind the eating of peanuts, I would like to > share the background of Mahabharata.** If you don’t want to read, skip > this part and go down to know the reason of eating peanuts.* > > *It was a battle of Dharma and everyone was present on the battlefield to > fight except the two characters i.e. Balram Rukmani amba* > > *It is the story of one family, on one side there were 5 sons of Pandu > known as Pandavas and on the other side, there were 100 sons of > Dhritarashtra known as Kauravas. The names of 5 Pandava were Yudhishthir, > Bhimsen, Arjun, Nakul, and Sehdev. Among the 100 sons of Dhritarashtra, > Duryodhan was the eldest son.* > > *Apart from Pandava and Kauravas, the other important characters in this > fight were* > > * Pitamah Bhishma, Guru Dronacharya, Guru Kripacharya,* > > * Madar Naresh Shalva (Mama of Nakul and Sehdev),* > > * Sindhu Naresh Jaydrath (Husband of Duryodhana's sister Dushala),* > > * Danveer Karna (eldest kunti son),* > > * Raja dhrupad and his sons Dhrishtadyumna and Shikandi,* > > * Shakuni (Maternal Uncle of Duryodhan),* > > * Matysa Naresh Virat and his sons Utara, the most important Lord > Krishna (Incarnation of Lord Vishnu).* > > *Who was fighting to whom’s side* > > *On the side of Pandava: Apart from Pandava, Lord** Krishna, Dhrupad > Naresh and his sons, Matysa Naresh and his son, Yuyutsu (Brother of > Duryodhan).* > > *On the Side of Kauravas: Duryodhan and his** brothers, Pitamah Bhishma, > Guru Dronacharya, Guru Kripacharya, Karna, Madar Naresh Shalva, Sidhu > Naresh Jaydrath, Narayani Sena (Lord Krishna Soldiers).* > > *If we read/see Mahabharat and try to find out** the reasons behind > Mahayudh, then we could find several reasons. Everyone was fighting either > to take revenge or due to their prana (pledge).* > > *Some of the major reasons were as follows.* > > *Duryodhana and his brothers were fighting as** Duryodhan wanted to > become king followed by his father Dhritarashtra and wanted to take Pandava > out of Hastinapur.* > > *Pandava was fighting for their rights and to take** revenge of bad > things happened to them due to Duryodhana especially the insult of > Drapaudi.* > > *Pitamah Bhishma, Guru Dronacharya and guru Kripacharya were fighting due > to pratigya.* > > *Karna wanted to prove that he was the best Archer in the universe.* > > *Sindu Naresh Jaydrath wanted to take revenge from Pandava.* > > *Madra Naresh got the support from Pandava in their earlier battle, so he > wanted to support Pandava.* > > *Drupad Naresh and his sons wanted to take revenge from guru Dronacharya.* > > *Why did Shri Lord Krishna eat peanuts for 18 days in the war of > Mahabharata?* > > *The actual story began when the king of Udupi came to know about the > battle and he came to kurukshetra with his troops**. He met with Lord > Krishna and said I came here to fight but my heart/mind was not allowing me > to take part and I did not want to favour any side. Still, I have one > proposal and I request you to accept my proposal and blessed me.* > > *Here is the conversation that took place between lord Krishna and king of > Udupi* > > *Lord Krishna asked : what is your proposal??* > > *King of Udupi said : I want to prepare foods for all the veer and > mahaveer participating in the battle.* > > *Lord Krishna accepted his proposal and allowed him for the arrangement of > food.* > > *King of Udupi started making foods and everyday when all the Yodha took > their food, whatever he cooked, that food finished completely at the end of > da**y. It means there was no wastage of food, and also it was available > in plenty for everyone.* > > *The war ended in 18 days and Pandava won the war. Everyone became > surprised when they came to know about a proper food planning.* > > *Post the possession of crown, one day Hastinapur Naresh maharaj > Yudhishthira asked to the king of Udupi about the logic behind this.* > > *The king of Udupi asked: Hey maharaj, could you please tell me to whom > you would give credit to your win.* > > *Maharaj Yudhishthir replied : Lord Krishna* > > *Then king of Udupi replied: Lord Krishna is also responsible for my karma > as well. **Everyday he ate peanuts in the night and on the next day when > we entered inside his tent, we collected all the lamella (peanuts chilka) > and counted.* > > * We multiply the counted lamella with 1000 and we would come to know the > number of deaths going to happen on that day and we prepared our foods > accordingly.* > > *As we know, Lord Krishna knew everything and he knew the result of > Mahabharata as well. He was eating peanuts to help the Udupi Naresh in his > food making.* > > *This is the story which explain why did lord Krishna eat peanuts > everyday.* > > *Q2 What are some new discoveries?* > > *A2 Ian O'Grady,Studied TV and Film Production8h* > > *A Russian scientist named Anatoli Brouchkov** injected himself with a > 3.5 million-year-old bacteria strain that he pulled out of the permafrost > at Mammoth Mountain in Northern Siberia in 2009.* > > *It is believed that bacteria called Bacillus F could extend life. > Scientists discovered that mice and** fruit flies exposed to the bacteria > seemed to get a boost to their immunity systems, leading to longer lives > and fertility even into old age.* > > *What the media described as eternal life bacteria, Anatoli was curious to > see how it would affect him after seeing the results from the mice.* > > *After he injected himself with the bacteria, he said he felt great and > felt a boost in his energy, allowing him to work longer.* > > *Q3 What are some unwritten social rules everyone should know?* > > *A3 Shivam Rajbhar, World book education Aug 28* > > *Always carry cash. (you never know what might happen on the road)* > > *Smile when you shake hands. (ensures confidence and trustworthiness)* > > *If you are not invited, don’t go. (unless extremely* *necessary, ofc)* > > *When in a conversation, wait for your turn to** speak. (makes you more > likable)* > > *Start saying Yes and No without explaining an** entire story. (Yes and > No tells a lot)* > > *Never say no if a poor friend/relative invites you to dinner or lunch. > (eat less but eat)* > > *If someone accidentally slips or spills a drink, help them instead of > looking at them awkwardly. (we all go through this)* > > *Don’t ask a girl her age. Nor a man his salary.* > > *Never try to outsmart your teacher or your father. (If you know they’re > wrong, explain to them why)* > > *If you don’t like someone’s specific habit, never** tell others about > it; instead to them in private.* > > *Q3 What are some major differences between ISKCON bhagwat Geeta > and Gita press bhagwat Geeta?* > > *A3 Aditi Pathak, Author and Servant of Lord Krishna52m* > > *The ISKCON Gita and Gita Press Gita are both** translations of the > Bhagavad Gita, but they have some significant differences.* > > *The ISKCON Gita is a Bhakti Yoga focused** translation. It is translated > by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the founder of the International > Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON). Prabhupada was a Gaudiya > Vaishnava, a Hindu tradition that emphasizes the worship of Krishna. The > ISKCON Gita reflects this focus, with many of the verses being interpreted > in a way that emphasizes Krishna's divinity and the importance of Bhakti > Yoga.* > > *The Gita Press Gita is a more neutral translation.* *It is translated by > Shri Goenka, a scholar of Sanskrit and Indian philosophy. The Gita Press > Gita does not take a particular theological stance, and it attempts to > present the text in a way that is faithful to the original Sanskrit.* > > *In addition to these differences in focus, the two translations also > differ in their style and language. The ISKCON Gita is written in a more > flowing and poetic style, while the Gita Press Gita is more literal and > straightforward.* > > *Ultimately, the best translation of the Bhagavad Gita is the one that you > find most helpful and meaningful. If you are interested in a Bhakti Yoga > focused translation, then the ISKCON Gita is a good option. As I prefer > ISKCON Gita because it help you to know deeply about the bakti yoga.Hare > Krishna * > > *My note- I am having Bhagavat Geetha purchased from ISKCON Bangalore* > > *Q5 What are some mind-blowing facts about WW1?* > > *A1 Ian O'Grady, Studied TV and Film Production Jul 25* > > *On August 6th,1915, over 7,000 German soldiers** surrounded Osowiec > Fortress. The Fortress was built in the 19th century on a strategic hotspot > near the river Biebrza, in what is now Poland, but back then was part of > the Russian Empire.* > > *It was a formidable fortress, but only 900 Russian soldiers defended it > against 7,000 advancing German troops**. After months of trying to get > the soldiers to surrender, the Germans launched a Chlorine and Bromine Gas > attack against the fortress, followed by an artillery bombardment.* > > *Since the Russian soldiers were just simple militia, they had no > protection and suffered horrendous casualties from the gas. As the 7,000 > thousand German troops advanced against the fort, they were met with a > terrifying sight.* > > *The hundred or so Russian troops who had survived the gas attack charged > the German soldiers covered in blood and chemical burns**, and coughing > up bits of their melted lungs. The Chlorine gas mix with the moisture in > their lungs turning it to Hydrochloric Acid.* > > *With bloody cloths wrapped their melting faces they charged the German > soldiers. The German troops thought the dead where coming at them and ran > screaming in terror. As the horrified Germans retreated they got caught in > their own barbwire traps, allowing the Russians to pick them off with ease.* > > *They didn’t manage to hold the fortress, but the remaining Russian > soldiers were able to destroy the fort before retreating to safety**.* > > * The battle for Osowiec Fortress was so horrific for the advancing German > army, it went on to become known as the Attack of the Dead Men.* > > *My note- First world war from 1914-1918* > > *All the above QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 07-09-2023.* > > *Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers.* > > *Compiled and posted by R. 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