nARAYANASAMY ADDUCES THESE AS EVIDENCE; AND IS THERE ANYONE TO GO THROUGH
AND REBVEAL THEIR MINDS? KR IRS 30923

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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 30 Sept 2023 at 14:37
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] The true aviveki
To: iyer <[email protected]>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>


Dear folks

Oily-man escapist still wriggles, jiggles, and struggles out of his
unfounded, untrue, assertion that r'g-vedam "is the oldest scripture on
earth".

He tries to hide behind another gross lie of his own sole unabashed new
manufacture:-

*"The whole earth right from then long long ago till date said (so)."*

NO.  It never did.

What the whole earth, and all the 14 worlds from sathyalokam to paathaalam,
said was that *ALL THE VEDAMS CAME OUT FIRST AS AN INTEGRATED
UNDIVIDED WHOLE FROM THE DIVINITY.*

It was the human beings, i.e. the 24 scholar-rishis, who were labelled
"Vyaasaas" (dividers) who for convenience of study and propagation, split
the whole into three parts -- r'g, yajur, and saama.

*Ergo, the inescapable evidence is that r'g DID NOT come first, nor was it
the OLDEST.*

S Narayanaswamy Iyer



On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 3:59 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> aVIVELKI ISAN AVIVEKI IS AN AVIVEKI VIZ nARAYANA
>             What is assertion? An assertion is a declaration that's made
> emphatically, especially as part of an argument or as if it's to be
> understood as a statement of fact. To assert is to state with force. So
> if someone makes an assertion, they're not just trying out an idea — they
> really mean it.  And some of you are proud that he is jurist. If so how
> did he become that without knowing the simple logic?  I do not assert;
> suppose Rig vedam says "SATYAM VADHA; and if i say so; then I am not
> asserting; I am speaking the truth on print; if Narayana says otherwise,
> then he is asserting against the truth. So too the whole earth right from
> then long long ago till date said that the oldest scripture of the earth is
> Rig Vedam. So I simply repeat that truth which evidences are world known
> and therefore, it is not assertion. But Narayanasamy  alone says the other
> way including copied from etc; so who is asserting? As he says, "ONE WHO
> ASSERTED MUST SHOW THE PROOF". Without this , abuses anger, aversion etc
> reflected the ignorance avivekam of Narayanasamy and his jalras only. Don't
> be  a joker to write as you like it. You are a blunt aviveki unless you
> prove your assertions. KR IRS 0 9 23
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 30 Sept 2023 at 13:08
> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] The true aviveki
> To: iyer <[email protected]>
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> Having nothing at all to say, brat-adolescent  K R IRS 29 9 23, displays
> yet again his lack of education, his lack of knowledge of anything
> worthwhile.  He resorts to his signature "puff of smoke with no fire"
> response yet again.
>
> Being mentally deficient, he cannot comprehend, much answer, my challenge:-
>
> *"Why, how, when, and by whom yajur-vedam manthrams are copied into
> r'g-vedam, which Cockroachmoorthy himself confesses can be 9 times, 90
> times, 900 times, or even 9.000 times?"*
>
> His only excuse is that, being incapacitated by advanced senility and
> brain-disease brought on by acquired syphilis from his sex-worker mother,
> he can only parrot abuse and imprecations in his signature broken
> sewage-gutter English, such as the absolute nonsensical self-concocted lie
> and abuse:-
>
> *"If you are capable of doing anything, at least to save grace of your
> jaleras, you say with the evidence, that Yajurvedam, that too Krishna
> Yajurvedam is the oldest."*
>
> In all honest truth, it is our great and only *"**Reprobate arrogant
> adolescent KR x-IRS alias Rajaram K alias K Rajaram alias Krakenlake alias
> Cockroachmoorthy 29 9 23, who is still not sure whether he is an overgrown
> child or an immature adult, but has the unfounded and unbounded temerity to
> call everyone within reach as avivekis"* who should *"say with the
> evidence, that r'g-vedam is the oldest among r'-g, yajur, and saama"* as
> he has repeatedly trumpeted without any proof or evidence.
>
> The rule is that he who asserts must prove.
>
>
> *Meaning, reprobate Cockroachmoorthy who asserts that r'g-vedam is the
> oldest vedam must so prove, with credible, verifiable evidence.  And not
> try to pull the wool over the eyes of the unwary by substituting his own
> chauvinistic opinions.   There is no way he can escape his sole
> responsibility for this task.*
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:49 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My dear aviveki Narayanasamy I shall call you thus 10000 times; because
>> you lie alot always; you do not reply and stand to the question; you simply
>> abuse me and others; you shall answer not only logically but also with the
>> VEDIC EVIDENCES, your stand that Rig vedam was only copied from
>> Yajurvedam ( idont which yajur according to you Krishna yajur vedam)  I
>> never said that it is so as you wrongly mischievously allege, as usual.
>> Because you don't have any knowledge, but only pretend as if you are
>> knowledgeable, when someone places you naked with the evidence, you don't
>> answer with any evidence, but keep attacking as well as twisting the facts,
>> as if you are so genuine. The whole earth knows that you are nothing by
>> this time. If you are capable of doing anything, at least to save grace of
>> your jaleras, you say with the evidence, that Yajurvedam, that too Krishna
>> Yajurvedam is the oldest and Rig vedam was copied from there only. Unless
>> you do this, your ignorance is dancing in the open court. And if you prove
>> it then you will be given a Nobel as you disproved the whole earth. Until
>> then keep shut all your navadwaras and lie low , without jumping like a
>> fox. I am writing the taittiriya brahmana only to show all the members what
>> exactly it is that; so that any knowledgeable person will understand how
>> before the mantras, yagana performances and rituals could have come up. You
>> keep people in the darkness and spin your yarn so long so far. Now it ends.
>> YOU PROVE AND LIVE OR GET LOST. DON' BE AN EMPTY DRUM. K R IRS 29 9 23
>>
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>> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Sept 2023 at 06:20
>> Subject: [iyer123] The true aviveki
>> To: iyer <[email protected]>, Venkat Giri <[email protected]>,
>> gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear folks
>>
>> Reprobate arrogant adolescent KR x-IRS alias Rajaram K alias K Rajaram
>> alias Krakenlake alias Cockroachmoorthy 29 9 23, who is still not sure
>> whether he is an overgrown child or an immature adult, has the unfounded
>> and unbounded temerity to call everyone within reach as avivekis.
>> This includes Sri Venkat Giri Sridharan, Sri Gopalakrishnan, and myself.
>>
>> The true universal icon and exemplar of avivekam, who is also guilty of
>> adharmam, ajnyaanam, avidya, anathema and sheer untrammelled idiocy of the
>> supremest height is Cockroachmoorthy himself, who unloads torrent after
>> torrent of completely irrelevant garbage which is totally unrelated to the
>> subject under discussion, which is why, how, when, and by whom yajur-vedam
>> manthrams are copied into r'g-vedam, which Cockroachmoorthy himself
>> confesses can be 9 times, 90 times, 900 times, or even 9.000 times.
>>
>> If Cockroachmoorthy can stick to the point and answer the points raised,
>> instead of wandering round in circles trying to make sense, with his
>> damaged brain and absent faculties, of yajur-veda thaiththireeya
>> braahmanam, he would be doing readers a service.
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
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