Sir, Your top brow is beyond my perception.But I do not want God's account to be debited with economics,the poisoning and pollution of land,water and air and the crime of the emotional disconnect to nature and converting it into mechanical and feelings-less mechanical link. YM
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:04 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > GOD AND ECONOMY AND NOT GOD vs ECONOMY > > KITAVASYA VS Krithavasya > > GOD AND THE ECONOMY ARE NOT DIFFERENT. Tirukkural said > it as ARUL ILLARKKU AVVULAGAMILAI ANGE, PORUL ILLAARKKU IVVUILAGAMILAI// HE > alone can decide your moksham. Hence Valluvar conditioned that if one needs > Moksham, then GOD shall bless that one with HIS grace; so too, wealth is > important to pull yourself on this earth. And hence, the Artha the wealth > Vishnu symbolises the economy. Earning is a fork; one kitavasya=a gambler > gambling; another Krithavasya=working hard. Which is good economy and > which one is bad? Rig vedam speaks about it clearly extolling what is life > and economy. > > Rig Veda 8.77.10 > > “The wide-traversing Sun, despatched by you, brings (to the world) all > these (waters which you create);he brings hundreds of cattle and rice > boiled in milk; it is Indra who slays the water-stealing boar.” > > Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya > > The sun (herecalled Viṣṇu), as the bringer of rain, is said to bring the > cattle and food which the rain produces; the 'boar'varāha is a person > nification of the cloud as smitten by Indra's thunderbolt (cf. Nirukta > 5.4). Taittirīya Saṃhitā6.2.4 relates the legend: the person nified > sacrifice concealed itself from the gods, and assuming the form ofViṣṇu, > entered the earth. The gods, streching out their hands, sought in vain to > lay hold of it; but wherever itturned, Indra, outstripping it, stood in > front of it. It said to him, 'Who is this that, outstripping me, always > stands infront of me?' He answered, "I slay in inaccessible plural ces'. > Then, it said to him, 'You say that you can slay ininaccessible plural > ces-- if this be so, the boar vāmamoṣa (vāmamuṣa in Caraka Brāhmaṇa) guards > for theasuras, behind the seven mountains, the wealth which the gods must > obtain; prove your title by slaying thatboar'. Indra, seizing up a tuft of > darbha grass, pierced those mountains and slew him. Then he said to > thesacrifice, 'You said that you could bring out from inaccessible plural > ces; bring him out from there'. It brought out allthe instrumental uments > of the sacrifice (i.e. the altar, Soma jars, cupṣ..) and gave them to the > gods'. The CarakaBrāhmaṇa adds that the boar hid behind twenty-one stone > cities. The seven mountains are the four dīkṣāsor initiatory rites and the > three upasads; the boar vāmamoṣa (stealer of precious things) is the person > nifiedceremony of pressing the Soma; see also RV 1.61.7 > > Tirukkural in one shot express the epicwenter of economy; RAIN. > > துப்பார்க்குத் துப்பாய துப்பாக்கித் துப்பார்க்குத் > > துப்பாய தூஉம் மழை. > > உண்பவர்க்குத் தக்க உணவுப் பொருள்களை விளைவித்துத் தருவதோடு, பருகுவோர்க்குத் > தானும் ஓர் உணவாக இருப்பது மழையாகும். > > English Couplet 12: > > The rain makes pleasant food for eaters rise; > > As food itself, thirst-quenching draught supplies > > Couplet Explanation: > > Rain produces good food, and is itself food > > Transliteration(Tamil to English): > > Thuppaarkkuth Thuppaaya Thuppaakkith Thuppaarkkuth > > Thuppaaya Thoou Mazhai > > And life of a family and God Vishnu represent the economy. > > विश्वा॑ । इत् । ता । विष्णुः॑ । आ । अ॒भ॒र॒त् । उ॒रु॒ऽक्र॒मः । त्वाऽइ॑षितः > । श॒तम् । म॒हि॒षान् । क्षी॒र॒ऽपा॒कम् । ओ॒द॒नम् । व॒रा॒हम् । इन्द्रः॑ । > ए॒मु॒षम् ॥ > > viśvā | it | tā | viṣṇuḥ | ā | abharat | uru-kramaḥ | tvāiṣitaḥ | śatam | > mahiṣān | kṣīra-pākam | odanam | varāham | indraḥ | emuṣam > > Rig Veda 10.34.10 > > जाया तप्यते कितवस्य हीना माता पुत्रस्य चरतः क्व स्वित् । ऋणावा > बिभ्यद्धनमिच्छमानोऽन्येषामस्तमुप नक्तमेति ॥ > > jāyā tapyate kitavasya hīnā mātā putrasya carataḥ kva svit | ṛṇāvā bibhyad > dhanam icchamāno 'nyeṣām astam upa naktam eti || > > “The deserted wife of the gamester is afflicted; the mother (grieves) for > the son wandering wherever helikes; involved in debt, ever in fear, anxious > for wealth, (the gambler) goes forth by night to the dwellings of others(to > plural nder).” > > Rig Veda 10.34.11 > > स्त्रियं दृष्ट्वाय कितवं ततापान्येषां जायां सुकृतं च योनिम् । पूर्वाह्णे > अश्वान्युयुजे हि बभ्रून्त्सो अग्नेरन्ते वृषलः पपाद ॥ > > striyaṃ dṛṣṭvāya kitavaṃ tatāpānyeṣāṃ jāyāṃ sukṛtaṃ ca yonim | pūrvāhṇe > aśvān yuyuje hi babhrūn so agner ante vṛṣalaḥ papāda || > > “The gamester, having observed the happy wife and well-ordered home of > others, suffers regret; yet inthe forenoon he puts to the tawny steeds, and > at night the sinner lies down by the fire.” > > Rig Veda 10.34.12 > > यो वः सेनानीर्महतो गणस्य राजा व्रातस्य प्रथमो बभूव । तस्मै कृणोमि न धना > रुणध्मि दशाहं प्राचीस्तदृतं वदामि ॥ > > yo vaḥ senānīr mahato gaṇasya rājā vrātasya prathamo babhūva | tasmai > kṛṇomi na dhanā ruṇadhmi daśāham prācīs tad ṛtaṃ vadāmi || > > “Dice, I offer salutation to him who has been the genitive ral of your > great army, the chief lord of your host;I do not provide him with wealth; I > raise my ten (fingers) to the east; that (which) I speak (is) the truth.” > > Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya > > I do notprovide him wealth: na danā ruṇadhmi = I do not withhold my > wealth; na sampādayāmi > > Rig Veda 10.34.13 > > अक्षैर्मा दीव्यः कृषिमित्कृषस्व वित्ते रमस्व बहु मन्यमानः । तत्र गावः कितव > तत्र जाया तन्मे वि चष्टे सवितायमर्यः ॥ > > akṣair mā dīvyaḥ kṛṣim it kṛṣasva vitte ramasva bahu manyamānaḥ | tatra > gāvaḥ kitava tatra jāyā tan me vi caṣṭe savitāyam aryaḥ || > > “Giving serious attention (to my advice), plural y not with dice; pursue > agriculture; delight in wealth (soacquired); there, gambler, are cows; > there is a wife; so has this (visible) sovereign Savitā declared to me.” > > KR IRS 131123 > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Markendeya Yeddanapudi <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 07:44 > Subject: The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist > To: ggroup <[email protected]>, thatha patty < > [email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > Satyanarayana Kunamneni <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > viswanatham vangapally <[email protected]>, Rajaram > Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>, Ramamurti PV < > [email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, > Kunamneni Satyanarayana <[email protected]>, Ramu S <[email protected]>, > Deepali Hadker <[email protected]>, Krishnamacharyulu > Nanduri <[email protected]> > > > > > -- > *Mar*The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist > > > > There was a time, when the human perceived and lived on the basis of > smelling and sensing. It appears that the human could distinguish among > 50,000 different smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically > every other organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and > interacting. The lithosphere must be brimming with diverse organisms, > ranging from bacteria to the whale, all of which must have smell-conversed. > Every nook and cranny of the lithosphere, Hydrosphere and Troposphere, must > have been composed and consisted of some organism, giving the smell > messages. > > The totality of the continuous smell messages, as the continuous abstract > flow of feeling and sensing was the message flow of God. And God was > everywhere. Air was not inanimate gas, but the manifestations of > communications from the various life forms, creating the atmospheric > symbiosis. That God of Biospheric symbiosis from the air, guided all life > forms. The existence of God simply could not be denied. Atheism was lunacy. > > When the human developed the Brain, it began weaving epics, music and song > and poetry filled epics, as the method of expression of perceptions and > understanding. In the earlier epics, every > organism,cat,dog,horse,bull,tiger,lion,monkey or any and every organism, > fulfilled the roles of characters, giving emotional explanation and not > today’s Cartesian or mechanical explanation of findings as feelings from > nature. All those feelings and emotional dimensions of the epics developed > as hormones entered the cells and every limb and organ functioned as a > theistic manifestation. Those hormonal communications in every organism > were smelt and sensed by every other organism, converting the planet earth > into the Goddess, Gaia. > > The presence of God was felt just like any matter, say a chair or table, > but those chairs and tables spoke. In those days speaking was smelling, > sensing and exhaling responses, all without editing. There was no lonely > contemplation. The ‘all seeing and all sensing God’, was real. God was > Geography as the ‘Theosphere’, along with the Lithosphere, hydrosphere, > troposphere and the Biosphere. The Theosphere governed and administered all > the other spheres. Every organism, including the human was bonded and > directed by the Theosphere. > > But the Human refused to be governed by feelings and emotions. He > developed the sciences and technologies or simply declared war on all > feelings and emotions, creating the God-less Technology and now the > God-less Robots. Using the science based on the logic of the emotions-less > logic of machines, the basic emotional and perception complements of > nature, every other organism, is enslaved and converted into an economic > good. > > God left the hormones. The basic Theosphere that governed and directed > every other sphere, the Lithosphere,Hydrosphere,the troposphere and the > Biosphere,died.Today there is no possibility for Theism. > > Sciece killed God. > > Now we have machines that perform the functions of every limb making them > redundant and frozen. We call that non participation in nature, comforts > and luxuries. > > Economics today is the technology, of Robots that are busy freezing every > limb of man in his ordinary life. The Economists themselves are not even > human beings. They are Computers and Robots. > > The big problem with the human economist is he/she cannot be completely > mechanical and robotic. Emotions could not be completely eliminated from > him, in spite of the industrial and urban poisoning, of the air, along with > land and water, where only Robots can function. > > We are fast drifting into the age of the Robot Economist, the pure atheist > who cannot mechanically conceptualize God, the God of feelings and emotions. > > YM > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLJBUP%2B9Dagt9%2B4gRY1HdubsvgCiF6oxmUNHx6Qh2To%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com.
