Thank you Mr Sekar for reading the QA and response about QA1. In Bangalore the 
silent tower of Parsis  is next to Godrej woodsman estate  where my daughter 
reside.
Gopalakrishnan

    On Monday, 8 January, 2024 at 01:35:49 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
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Thank you.
Good to read.
Q 1 was informative although many of us are aware of these reasons but still 
refreshing our memory is good, as we don't think about all these consciously.
One belief is that you can do the Namaskarans only here - after the 
Dwajasthanbam but before the exit  - in the Prakaram. It is done after the " 
Pradakshinams".
2. Parsis worship Fire and their bodies, after death, are thrown open in a 
place where eagles eat them.There is a place for this in Mumbai.
4. As stated there, sll our rituals, as they were originally conceived and 
practiced, had very valid scientific reasons.
The reason why women were asked to sit in a separate place during their 
menstrual cycle was also because
No napkins were available in those days
Since they must be feeling weak, full rest was endured by this method.
Of course general hygiene.
Without knowing anything, the ignoramuses ridicule our religion - Neither is 
there a desire to learn nor we care to explain.
N Sekar 
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  On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 12:12 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via 
iyer123<[email protected]> wrote:   
CULTURAL QA 01-2024-08

All the BELOW  QA are from  Quora  digest to me  on  08-01-2024. Two  good 
jokes are   alsoincluded to avoid monotonous reading if any felt so.

Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers 

.Compiled and posted byR. Gopala krishnan,  on 08-01-2024

Q1         Why is a pointed metal top fitted onmost of the Hindu temples?

A1          Srivathsan,I love reading aboutphilosophical aspects of hinduism18h

OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA -Why this metal rod?

In all the templeswe have a pillar in front of the Garbhagraham or Moolasthanam 
which is known as Dwajasthambam or Kodimaram.

In Sanskrit, theword Dwaja means ‘Flag’ that raises high. In the religious 
sense, whateverraises a man to a higher level of understanding and activity is 
a ‘Dwaja.’ The Dwajasthamba is consideredas the symbol of hope and desire to 
overcome one’s ignorance.

Dwajasthambam is anindication of the spinal cord in our human body as told in 
Agamas. There aretotally 32 spiral bones in our spinal cord and even the flag 
pole has 32 rings. There are manyrules mentioned in the Agamas about the 
installing of this Dwajasthambam.

Whenever we enterany temple, we will first encounter this Dwajastambham.

The Dwajasthamba is believed to carry the power of the Godin the temple.

The top portion of the flag staff has three horizontalperches or three branches 
pointing towards the Sanctum.These3 parts symbolizes or represents the 
Trimurthis – Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

The dwajastambham is normally made by using a single treeor single stone. They 
are decorated with eithergold or silver or bronze or most of the times with 
panchalokas.

It is said that oneshould chant only the holy mantras and chant His name while 
standing in frontof the God in Garbhagraha. Our worries and wishesshould be 
told to god only in front of this Dwajasthambam.

Lastly afterpraying to all the gods, men should perform the Ashtanga namaskaram 
while womenshould perform the Panchanga namaskaram in front of Dwajasthambam.

My note- In some temples Dwajasthamba is erected everyyear during festival 
time. In such instances the prayer is made in theearmarked area. Manyfamily 
temples have no dwajasthambam or festivals. In these templesworship is done in 
front of the deity. 

An example is the Pandalam Sastha temple,family deity of Pandalam Royal family. 
No Dwajasthambam and no specialfestivals. In fact the temple is closed for 10 
days when anymember of the royal family dies 

There are fewscientific reasons behind the structure of Dwajasthambam.Whenever 
lightning strikes, the metal arrestor (A device used to protectequipment from 
lightning, electrical storms, etc…), placed at such a highestpoint of the 
region, induces the charge to conduct through it. The metalarrestor then 
conducts the heavy electrical impulse directly to ground, thuspreventing the 
building from getting damaged.

My note- OOn this account present days a rectangular fencing is made around 
theflag mast in Kerala temples, where rain is a frequent occurance nowadays.

Q2         What are the key beliefs ofZoroastrianism?

A2          Maryam Alizadeh, Bachelor in BusinessManagement, Oxford Brookes 
University (Expected 2026)Dec 13

Zoroastrianism is an ancient monotheistic religionfounded in ancient Persia 
(present-day Iran) by theprophet Zoroaster (also known as Zarathustra) around 
1500 BCE. It is one of theworld's oldest monotheistic religions, predating 
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Here are the keybeliefs of Zoroastrianism:

1. Monotheism: Zoroastrians believe in onesupreme deity, Ahura Mazda, who is 
the creator of all that is good and just.Ahura Mazda is often referred to as 
the "Wise Lord" or "Lord ofLight."

2. Dualism: While Zoroastrianism is fundamentallymonotheistic, it also 
incorporates a dualistic element in its worldview. AhuraMazda is opposed by 
Angra Mainyu (also known as Ahriman), the spirit of chaos,darkness, and evil. 
This ongoing struggle between good and evil is central toZoroastrian thought.

3. Asha (Truth): Zoroastrians believe that theuniverse is governed by Asha 
(Truth), which is the divine order of theuniverse. By following the path of 
Asha, one aligns oneself with the forces ofgood and contributes to the victory 
of Ahura Mazda over Angra Mainyu.

4. Threefold Path: The path of Asha is embodied inthe Threefold Path, which 
consists of:

Good Thoughts: Zoroastrians strive to think pure,positive, and helpful thoughts.

Good Words: They also strive to speak truthfully,kindly, and honestly.

Good Deeds: Finally, they strive to act with integrity,compassion, and justice.

5. Free Will: Zoroastrianism emphasizes theimportance of free will. Humans have 
the ability to choose between the path ofAsha and the path of Druj (Deception), 
which leads to darkness and evil.

6. Judgement After Death: Zoroastrians believe thatafter death, individuals are 
judged according to their actions in life.Thosewho have followed the path of 
Asha will be rewarded with a blissful afterlife,while those who have chosen 
Druj will be punished.

7. Resurrection: Zoroastrians believe in theresurrection of the soul and the 
eventual destruction of Angra Mainyu and theforces of darkness. In the end, 
Ahura Mazda and Asha will triumph, and theuniverse will be restored to a state 
of perfect harmony.

Zoroastrianism has had a profound influence on thedevelopment of other 
religions, including Judaism,Christianity, and Islam. Its emphasis on 
monotheism, free will, and thestruggle between good and evil has resonated with 
believers across cultures andthroughout history.

Q3         What are some things that happen onlyin India?

A3          Vijay Godhi,Lead - Supply ChainUpdated3y

Couple of monthsback. I was in Mumbai to visit my friend’s dad who was in 
hospital for asurgery. Since the hospitaldidn’t have parking, I had to park my 
car on the road side which is whereusually everyone parks their vehicles. Below 
is the image - locationof where I had parked my car.

I met my friend’sdad and came back 2–3 hrs later to see that my car had 
disappeared. I was shocked. InitiallyI thought I was looking for my car at the 
wrong place. I searched the wholestretch of road and my car was nowhere. I came 
back to the place where I hadparked by car and was thinking. I thought my car 
was stolen and I need to approach the police and makea complaint.

Just then a cab driver had parked his car at the samelocation and he kept 
watching me. After couple ofminutes, he approached me and asked what’s the 
problem?. I told him my concernand said it looks like my car is stolen. I was 
surprised then he just smiledand said no sir, your car is not stolen but it’s 
towed andwill be in the near by police station.

I said “WHAT” !!Why ?? . The cab driver said sir. You have parked in a place 
which is reservedfor cabs.

Now, look at piccarefully ….

That board saysthis place is reserved for cabs. Can anyone really see this !!!

I for sure couldn’tsee this.

The cab driver directed me to the nearby police stationand I got my car back. 
Thought I had to pay a fine forparking illegally. When I showed them the pic of 
location , the police officer said “ I know that board is not visible and we 
haveinformed the concerned authorities to make it more visible but that’s not 
ourdepartment. You have to pay the fine now”

One thing what I liked is the cop at the station didn’taccept any cash as mode 
of payments for fine. Only cards are accepted.And a proper acknowledgement is 
given. When I asked why no cash, he had asimple answer - cash means people will 
try to bribe us and not payfines.

My experiencewas a good one. Cops spoke nice and were not rude.

Why did I writethis here - becausethis can only happen in India where the board 
is not visible and still you endup paying … LOL

Edit 1: Assuggested, the area was in Bandra near Leelavati Hospital.

Q4                 Why is it prohibited in mostHindu families, to visit temples 
for a few days if someone in the family hasdied?

A4          Srivathsan,I love reading aboutphilosophical aspects of hinduism18h

Prohibition to temples - Science or superstition

In Hinduism, eachevent has a traditional history. Birth and Death are one such 
part of theseevents, whenever some person dies or whenever a new child is 
born,Hindus follow the tradition of Sutak. Sutak is the period of abstention 
observedby the Hindus after birth or a death of a family member.

SUTAK DURING BIRTH

Sutak is observedduring the time, when a child is born. The family members of 
the new born observea period of Sutak for ten days. They restrict themselves 
from going to templesand attending any ceremonies, etc. Though, the overall 
environment is jubilantand joyful. The mother of the child is restrained to go 
inthe kitchen and the newborn is not brought outside of the home. Afterthe 
delivery, the mother does not mix with people and remains confined to thehouse. 
Family members call a priest for the spiritual Puja. Sweets and othergifts are 
distributed among the people.

Scientific Aspect

A woman after giving birth to a child becomes very weak andtired. She requires 
a period of great rest, so that her body replenishes thestrength,lost while 
giving birth. Her body also secretes many fluids and odor, thus sheis refrained 
from entering or using the kitchen for cooking. She is confined to her roomfor 
a period ten to fourteen days, so that her body recovers well. Sheis not 
allowed to work and do any task because of this reason only.

Traditionally,the period of Sutak is ten days for Brahmins, twelve for 
Kshatriyas, sixteen totwenty days for Vaishyas and thirty days for Shudras.As 
in the medieval times, women of Shudra caste had to do a lot of physicalhard 
work in the fields and homes of upper caste people. Their bodies didn’tremain 
in great shape due to the physical stress and poverty. This was thereason that 
their Sutak period was the longest, so that their bodies completelyrecover to 
sustain their daily chores. The Sutak period of other castes was also relative 
totheir work nature.

Moreover, thenewborn child is very sensitive and fragile to infections. Its 
body is notimmune to antigens and its immunity develops slowly with time. It 
could catchinfections from the people around it. That’s why, Sutak forbids 
touching orgoing near the newborn for ten to thirty days. Our ancient system 
made sure theproper development of every newborn child with the help of Sutak. 
In moderntimes, doctors keep weak infants in incubators for weeks, so that 
their bodiesslowly acclimatize to the earthly environment. But, Hinduism had 
this systemthousand years back in its own style.

SUTAKDURING DEATH

Sutak observed during Death is also known as Patak.It is the period of 
renouncing daily life activities for twelve to sixteen daysafter the death of a 
family member. It is observed by all the family membersand relatives of the 
dead individual.

Accordingto the Garuda Purana, when someone dies, the family must observe Patak 
fortwelve days. Theyshould call a priest to narrate the Garuda Purana and 
dictate them the rulesand regulations of Patak. The execution of Patak includes 
restrictionto – any worship or Puja of a deity, recitation of holy books, 
consuming spicyfood, visiting temples, attending a public function or a 
ceremony, and exchanginggifts.

On the thirteenthday, the “kriya” ceremony is observed, narration of the Garuda 
Purana isconcluded and that ends the Patak period. The belongings of the dead 
person including its new and old clothes aredistributed among the poor and 
needy.

Scientific Reason

Observation ofSutak after the death of a family member is a highly meaningful 
ceremony. As death may occur due to any reason – Sickness, disease, old 
age,accident, etc. The duration of Patak is corresponding to the reason of 
death.

If a person diesfrom a serious sickness, the environment of its home could be 
very contagiousfor others. So, the people gathered there for mourning,must take 
a bath after returning to their respective homes to ensure hygiene. Even after 
cremation of the dead body, a bath is compulsory according toour traditions. 
Scientifically, the fumes and ashes arising from theburning pyre may infect us. 
Thus, a proper bath and change of clothes preventsuch a case.

Even the family members of the dead individual may actas carriers of the 
infection. Scientifically, a “carrier”is a person who himself is not infected 
by the disease but may transfer thedisease into another person by coming into 
direct contact.

That’s whyto prevent such a happening, Patak is observed and the family members 
areforbidden to attend any public ceremonies, visit any temple and go out 
morefrequently. Only, because their contact with others mayresult in spread of 
a sickness. In ancient times, Patak acted as a greatmethod to quarantine such 
sicknesses. But today, ignorance has blindedour thought process and we consider 
it as a superstition.

Moreover, If afamily member dies in a foreign country, irrespective of the 
reason of thedeath. No abstention for twelve days is observed by its family. 
Only a bathcompletes the Patak.

Ancient Hindu scholars and scientists had researched onevery issue and life 
aspect deeply. They had devised propertechniques and methods to cope up with 
differing circumstances in a scientificand rational manner. But with time, our 
society has started to forget ourtraditions and started to label them as 
mythology or superstition. We tend tofollow the western lifestyle, culture and 
ethics but in return we aredisgracing and disrespecting our rich cultural 
heritage.

Sutak and Patak are traditional ceremonies with greatscientific logic 
incorporated into them. I hope this postclarifies and breaks all the myths 
surrounding them.

My note- Earlier in Kerala temples there used tohave a black notice 
boardintimating no entry for those having, Pula, Valaima, or on menses. For 
reasonsnot known now  no such noticeboard is there.

However Pula is observed by all family membersand going to temple Only after 
sama44radhana. Valaima is observed only veryclose family members.  

Q5         Do you know a joke about a son fleecinghis father?

A5          ,Andras Lu15h

Brad's first yearaway at university was a lot of partying and paying for his 
friend's. He quickly runs out of money.His father would not be pleased with his 
wastefulness, so Brad sends him amessage stating he has a professor that can 
teach his father's doghow to read and write for a bargain price. The father 
can't believe theadvances the school has made, but also can't pass up the 
opportunity. Brad soon receives his dog and the money, but promptly burns 
throughit again.

This time hisfather is sent another message that another professor of Brad's 
canteach the dog to talk to people for more money. Brad again receives themoney.

 Soon the father is bragging toeveryone in town about how when Brad comes home 
with the dog, the dog can notonly read and write, but can also converse with 
everyone.

Word spreads and atthe end of the school year a hugethrong of people are 
waiting to see the dog arrive at the train station. However, neither Brad nor 
the dog are to be seen. The fatherlooks off at the caboose and sees a slumped 
shouldered Brad slowly get off the train. 

The father runs to greet his son and asks where the dogis.Between whimpers Brad 
tells him that, while they were ridingthe train back home, the dog put down the 
newspaper he was reading and said,"Brad, I'm so glad I can speak. Because now I 
want to tell your motherwhat I saw your father and the housemaid doing when she 
wasn't around.

" Brad told his father, "I got so angry...Igrabbed that dog by the neck and 
threw it off the train. We must have beengoing 100. There's no way it could 
have survived."

Brad's fathergrasped him by the shoulders and looked directly into his eyes 
before saying,"Son, are you sure that lying dog is dead?"

Q6         What and why do some people whisper inNandi's ears at Lord Shiva 
temples?

A6          Srivathsan, I love reading aboutphilosophical aspects of hinduism18h

SUPERSTITION BUTWHY PHILOSOPHICAL ASPECT OF NANDI BHAGWAN

According to ourSanatan dharma, the purpose of human life is to attain moksha 
which can begained by controlling our Indriyas or senses. Moksha can also be 
defined asmerging Jeeva or Individual soul with the supreme god. Our scriptures 
have deepsignificance in all the symbolic forms. Similarly; Linga is the symbol 
of thesupreme God and Nandi is the symbol of Jeeva or the individual soul like 
us. By constant devotion, Nandi theJeeva merges with Linga the Eeshwara to 
become Nandeeshwara. Thus, thesitting position of Nandi is the symbolic form of 
stability and realizingoneness. So it explain the jeeva and paramatma concept.

WHY WHISPER ?

One such story is about Jalandhara, a demon whocomes in stories about both Lord 
Vishnu and Lord Shiva. The tale says that, once when Lord Shiva wasmeditating, 
Jalandhara kidnapped Parvathi. All the other Gods tried toinform Lord Shiva 
about this but failed. Lord Ganesha himself couldn’t wake upLord Shiva from 
Dhyana / Meditation. After thinking for a while, Ganesha then thought to tell 
this to Nandiwho was sitting in front of Ishwara. Lord Ganesha then narrated 
theentire thing in Nandi’s ears and Nandi conveyed the whole thing to Lord 
Shiva.

>From then, thepractice of speaking wishes in Nandi’s ears started, and is 
>believed thatwhatever we speak in his ears will be conveyed to the Lord 
>directly.

IS IT GOOD?

Actually no. Nandi bhagwan has ears and Shiva isall pervading that one can stop 
putting post letters or telegrams through nandibhagwan. It is just a mere 
SUPERSTITION as none of our scripturesadvices us to do so.

OM NAMAH SHIVAAYA

Q7         Do you know a joke about a priest and anun?

A7          Andras Lu,Sep 17

A priest and ayoung nun are on a journey in the Alps. On their journey they are 
surprised bya huge snowstorm. Fortunately,they can fight their way to an empty 
hut. Once there, they prepare forthe overnight stay. There'seven a whole closet 
full of blankets and a sleeping bag, but only one bed.As a gentleman, the 
priest of course knows what is appropriate and says to thenun: "Sister, sleep 
in bed. I'll take the sleeping bag."

The priest has justzipped up his sleeping bag and closed his eyes when he hears 
from the bed: "Father, I'mcold." The priest frees himself from the sleeping 
bag, grabs another blanket and spreads itover the nun. Then he mumbles into his 
sleeping bag for the second timeand begins to slip back into the realm of 
dreams.

Some five minuteslater you can hear it again: "Father, I'm still cold." The 
same procedure: Thepriest crawls out of the sleeping bag, spreads another 
blanket over the nun andgoes back to sleep.

He has just closedhis eyes when she says again: "Father, I'm soooooooo 
cold...!" This time the prieststays where he is and replies, "Sister, I have an 
idea. We're cut off fromthe outside world up here and not a soul will ever know 
what happened heretonight!" He grins mischievously and adds: "We could just 
pretend we're married..."

The nun hassecretly been waiting for this with hope and breathes: "Oh yes... 
that would be nice."

The priest thenshouts: “Then get up and get your damn blanket yourself!”



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